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Calif Bill January 26th 06 10:28 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:19:42 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Oh yes, we all know now that towability is the single most important
criteria when evaluating boats.


i know one guy who is pretty annoyed about towability. when i was on
my way to the mri this morning, i saw a hunter 45c on a flatbed pulled
over by the ct sp - i wonder why? :)


He wanted a tour of the boat? When I drove a corvette on the streets, I had
cops that would pull me over for a minor thing and want to talk about the
car.



Calif Bill January 26th 06 10:30 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
t...
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow
to
remote adventures.

Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.

How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper

Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?



Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up
and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man
says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about the
North winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come howlin'
down off the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy
revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.


Amen on the winds. Driving from San Filipe to Ensenada years go, my 1975
Chevy van had a hard time going up the steep hills with a 50-60 mile per
hour head wind.



P. Fritz January 26th 06 10:31 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.


My wife and I took a little trip this afternoon to pick our dock at the
new marina. #303 with the ramp on my starboard. Nice drive up dock with
plenty of grassy and tree filled areas..........more importantly quite
cheap at $950 for the season, including water and electric. ;-)


Mine just went up to $1825 and it isn't a drive up either






Calif Bill January 26th 06 10:34 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph. Easier
on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned two
lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill filling
your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough busy road


I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there, gets
good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


I got tired of towing after just 2 months of it. The boat goes in the
water at a dock from now on.


Too many different waters I like. is about 45 miles to Pillar Point Harbor
for salmon and crabs. 20 miles to SF Bay at San Leandro for stripers /
sharks / sturgeon. 40 miles to the Sacramento Delta for Black Bass '
stripers / sturgeon. 120 miles to Cherry Lake by Yosemite for camping and
skiing and hiking. and the rivers I like to run at about 130 miles.



Calif Bill January 26th 06 10:37 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph. Easier
on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned two
lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill filling
your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough busy road


I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there, gets
good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


Some clarification, Bill. Do you tow your boat with your truck at 80 mph
or just drive your truck without the boat at 80 mph?


I tow 65-70 on the freeway. Radar detector on. Without boat I do about
80-82 on trips to LA area. Both daughters live there. At 82 I get about
18.3 mpg at 85 I get about 15.9 mpg. Has got to be the ECU programming. I
tow with a 2004 2500 Crewcab diesel.



JimH January 26th 06 10:37 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph.
Easier on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned
two lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill
filling your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough
busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there,
gets good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


I got tired of towing after just 2 months of it. The boat goes in the
water at a dock from now on.


Too many different waters I like. is about 45 miles to Pillar Point
Harbor for salmon and crabs. 20 miles to SF Bay at San Leandro for
stripers / sharks / sturgeon. 40 miles to the Sacramento Delta for Black
Bass ' stripers / sturgeon. 120 miles to Cherry Lake by Yosemite for
camping and skiing and hiking. and the rivers I like to run at about 130
miles.


What great options you have Bill! For us it is either inland lakes or the
Great Lakes, Lake Erie being most convenient.



JimH January 26th 06 10:38 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.


My wife and I took a little trip this afternoon to pick our dock at the
new marina. #303 with the ramp on my starboard. Nice drive up dock
with plenty of grassy and tree filled areas..........more importantly
quite cheap at $950 for the season, including water and electric. ;-)


Mine just went up to $1825 and it isn't a drive up either






We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a drive
up dock and quite nice.



Eisboch January 26th 06 10:53 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a drive
up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch



JimH January 26th 06 11:24 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch



Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Bryan January 26th 06 11:26 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow
to
remote adventures.
Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove
burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.
How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we
are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?


Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up
and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man
says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about
the North winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come
howlin' down off the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy
revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.



Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last name
is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of the name,
but not the way the man himself spelled it.


But, Harry, the sea, not the man, is called the Sea of Cortez. It doesn't
matter that he was a Spaniard. The Gulf of California is called the Sea of
Cortez. Now I will concede that this spelling is prevalent on English
language maps and documents, and that Spanish language maps and documents
may very well disagree with the spelling. Still, you remind me of me back
in the day when I took my last university English course. One of the topics
we covered was the evolution of language. It was very upsetting to me, the
dumbing down of the language; but I had to concede that language, whether it
was alright with me, or not, does evolve, and words and their meanings,
uses, pronunciations, even spellings, does change as a result of external
pressures. So, whether Senor Cortes was Spanish or Mexican makes no
difference to me; I still have to look up the Sea of Cortez under the Cortez
spelling. By the way, did you really find my comment on spelling more
interesting than my suggestion that boating in the Gulf of California would
be a great idea for anyone interested in such an endeavor?



Bryan January 26th 06 11:36 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bryan" wrote in message
t...
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow
to
remote adventures.

Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove
burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.

How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we
are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper

Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?



Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up
and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man
says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about
the North winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come
howlin' down off the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy
revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.


Amen on the winds. Driving from San Filipe to Ensenada years go, my 1975
Chevy van had a hard time going up the steep hills with a 50-60 mile per
hour head wind.


I used to surf and camp at Cabo Colonet on the Pacific side (of course). It
was a barren piece of land with little to show for it's existence other than
a fish camp shack, a shipwreck (there's a YMCA story in that one), and some
uncrowded surf. The conversation generally consisted of the following:
"Sure is windy." "Yep, sure is." The Pacific side isn't all that bad for
wind, but when those winds come howling down the east facing side of the
mountains, you get stories about 1975 vans and headwinds!

I don't remember the name of those winds, but whoever mentioned the
"tostitos" (god I like this ng) really wasn't that far off; sort of along
the lines of thoe Mel Torme winds in Greece.



Bryan January 26th 06 11:39 PM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph.
Easier on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned
two lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill
filling your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough
busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there,
gets good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


I got tired of towing after just 2 months of it. The boat goes in the
water at a dock from now on.


Too many different waters I like. is about 45 miles to Pillar Point
Harbor for salmon and crabs. 20 miles to SF Bay at San Leandro for
stripers / sharks / sturgeon. 40 miles to the Sacramento Delta for Black
Bass ' stripers / sturgeon. 120 miles to Cherry Lake by Yosemite for
camping and skiing and hiking. and the rivers I like to run at about 130
miles.


What great options you have Bill! For us it is either inland lakes or the
Great Lakes, Lake Erie being most convenient.



And what big teeth!



Bryan January 26th 06 11:49 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph.
Easier on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned
two lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill
filling your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough
busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there,
gets good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


Some clarification, Bill. Do you tow your boat with your truck at 80 mph
or just drive your truck without the boat at 80 mph?


I tow 65-70 on the freeway. Radar detector on. Without boat I do about
80-82 on trips to LA area. Both daughters live there. At 82 I get about
18.3 mpg at 85 I get about 15.9 mpg. Has got to be the ECU programming.
I tow with a 2004 2500 Crewcab diesel.


Geez Bill, I'm stuck at 14mpg unloaded with my 2001 Ford F150 Supercrew,
12.5mpg towing the boat at 60-70 mph, and 7 mpg towing my 25 foot trailer at
55-65 mph. I'd love to improve my mpg a bit, especially with the trailer
attached!

How often does that radar detector light up on our highways?



Bryan January 26th 06 11:50 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


I wanted to know, too! Thanks for asking.



JimH January 26th 06 11:54 PM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
. net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


I wanted to know, too! Thanks for asking.



http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg





Skipper January 27th 06 12:05 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
Harry Krause wrote:

It is unlikely Skipper has ever seen a PArker.


Been sippin' the suds a bit tonight, Krause? Enjoy your P-Arrrker!

--
Skipper

Calif Bill January 27th 06 12:09 AM

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"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:30:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:01:40 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Guaymas to Santa Rosalia.

So when is your next trip?

We eagerly await the report.

seriously, i have never done any fishing in that area - i would really
like to sometime in the future.

anybody want to get up a group charter? :)


You said, you were not leaving the country. ;( And how good is a one
armed fisherman? How can you scratch your ass while fishing?


An even greater dilema: a fish on the line and an unopened cold beer in
hand. Does a one-armed fishermen who enjoys his beer, use his one arm to
open the beer or let it go and hang on to the fish?


There is rarely any beer drunk on my boat. I have maybe 12 beers a year,
and I do not allow smoking on the boat.



Calif Bill January 27th 06 12:18 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Bryan" wrote in message
et...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph.
Easier on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned
two lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill
filling your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough
busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there,
gets good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


Some clarification, Bill. Do you tow your boat with your truck at 80
mph or just drive your truck without the boat at 80 mph?


I tow 65-70 on the freeway. Radar detector on. Without boat I do about
80-82 on trips to LA area. Both daughters live there. At 82 I get about
18.3 mpg at 85 I get about 15.9 mpg. Has got to be the ECU programming.
I tow with a 2004 2500 Crewcab diesel.


Geez Bill, I'm stuck at 14mpg unloaded with my 2001 Ford F150 Supercrew,
12.5mpg towing the boat at 60-70 mph, and 7 mpg towing my 25 foot trailer
at 55-65 mph. I'd love to improve my mpg a bit, especially with the
trailer attached!

How often does that radar detector light up on our highways?


The radar detector is really useful on 101 North of you. Every chippie has
a radar unit. My 1999 Expedition 4x4, probably same 5.4L saw 16.5 mpg one
time. Love the diesel, except for the fuel prices, and in LA is harder to
find diesel stations. And my boat / trailer is about 4400# and towing to
Tahoe or Oroville is a dream. If you camp, take your boat to Oroville.
Beautiful lake, and some of the nicest campgrounds around. Really nice
bathrooms with power outlets. Wife loves that part. Great 4th of July
fireworks, just too hot then. So we've been going to Gold Beach, OR for the
4th now.



Calif Bill January 27th 06 12:19 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However,
for the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up
short. Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared
to the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to
tow to
remote adventures.
Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom
in the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove
burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield,
and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.
How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we
are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans
to visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?

Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled
Cortés properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.
Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it
up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like
the man says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area,
especially you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in
your travels; Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination.
Don't worry about the North winds too much, but watch out for the West
winds that come howlin' down off the hills now and then. As much as I
would really enjoy revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far
for me to tow.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.


But, Harry, the sea, not the man, is called the Sea of Cortez. It
doesn't matter that he was a Spaniard. The Gulf of California is called
the Sea of Cortez. Now I will concede that this spelling is prevalent on
English language maps and documents, and that Spanish language maps and
documents may very well disagree with the spelling. Still, you remind me
of me back in the day when I took my last university English course. One
of the topics we covered was the evolution of language. It was very
upsetting to me, the dumbing down of the language; but I had to concede
that language, whether it was alright with me, or not, does evolve, and
words and their meanings, uses, pronunciations, even spellings, does
change as a result of external pressures. So, whether Senor Cortes was
Spanish or Mexican makes no difference to me; I still have to look up the
Sea of Cortez under the Cortez spelling. By the way, did you really find
my comment on spelling more interesting than my suggestion that boating
in the Gulf of California would be a great idea for anyone interested in
such an endeavor?



I prefer to spell names the way the owner of the name spells it.


Maybe he could not spell? ;) As to his name, it was probably at least 7 or
8 names more.



JohnH January 27th 06 12:50 AM

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:27:54 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:57:51 -0600, Skipper wrote:

JohnH wrote:

The overall experience with this usage. The Grady makes the Cortez a
realistic adventure. The Parker precludes anything but the same ol'
local same ol'. An on-the-water Cortez adventure *far* exceeds anything
you'll ever find on the Chesapeake.

[Damn, this is harder than pulling hen's teeth!]

Skipper, what *overall experience with this usage*?

Why would the Grady make the adventure any more realistic than the
Parker?

Suppose if you made two trips, one with the Parker and another with the
Grady you'd understand. Towability is an important factor in the overall
experience.


Damnit! I've already conceded the towability issue. Now - we're there. We
have two boats, a Grady 228 and a Parker 2520XL. Which would do better
crossing the Sea of Corte's, and why so?
--
John H



Skippy is playing you like a violin John.


And you, of course, noticed that I have remained civil, yes?

Remember rule #1, Be nice.
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Bryan January 27th 06 12:51 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bryan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However,
for the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up
short. Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared
to the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to
tow to
remote adventures.
Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom
in the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove
burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield,
and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.
How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we
are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans
to visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?

Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled
Cortés properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.
Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it
up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like
the man says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area,
especially you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in
your travels; Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination.
Don't worry about the North winds too much, but watch out for the West
winds that come howlin' down off the hills now and then. As much as I
would really enjoy revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far
for me to tow.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.


But, Harry, the sea, not the man, is called the Sea of Cortez. It
doesn't matter that he was a Spaniard. The Gulf of California is called
the Sea of Cortez. Now I will concede that this spelling is prevalent on
English language maps and documents, and that Spanish language maps and
documents may very well disagree with the spelling. Still, you remind me
of me back in the day when I took my last university English course. One
of the topics we covered was the evolution of language. It was very
upsetting to me, the dumbing down of the language; but I had to concede
that language, whether it was alright with me, or not, does evolve, and
words and their meanings, uses, pronunciations, even spellings, does
change as a result of external pressures. So, whether Senor Cortes was
Spanish or Mexican makes no difference to me; I still have to look up the
Sea of Cortez under the Cortez spelling. By the way, did you really find
my comment on spelling more interesting than my suggestion that boating
in the Gulf of California would be a great idea for anyone interested in
such an endeavor?



I prefer to spell names the way the owner of the name spells it.


Mr. Krause, I will always spell your name correctly (assuming no typos and
that I know how it is spelled).



Bryan January 27th 06 12:53 AM

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch



Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the slip
and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And convenient.



JohnH January 27th 06 12:54 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.


I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels; Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.


Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.


I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.


Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH January 27th 06 01:17 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.


I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.


Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.


I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.


Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H



Glad you finally saw it John.



JimH January 27th 06 01:21 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch



Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the slip
and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And convenient.


Yep.

That was our old marina. Our new one is not as nice (amenity wise) but
actually has more open grass/tree area to picnic in....more of a park like
setting. When we drive up to our dock our boat will be sitting 15 from the
car, with a grassy area in front and a large park like setting behind.



Don White January 27th 06 01:30 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.


I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels; Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.


Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.


I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.



Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



Lonely out there on the frozen prairie.

JimH January 27th 06 01:34 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.



Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time - --
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



Lonely out there on the frozen prairie.


Derby, Kansas in January.............nothing but lonely steers and queers,
and they all find comfort with each other in one way or another.



JohnH January 27th 06 01:41 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:17:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.


Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H



Glad you finally saw it John.


And remained civil, Jim.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH January 27th 06 01:45 AM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:17:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.

Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H



Glad you finally saw it John.


And remained civil, Jim.
--
'Til next time,

John H



He gets what he deserves John.......I am sure you will finally see that.



JohnH January 27th 06 01:57 AM

Things to do before Spring launch
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:45:16 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:17:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.

Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H


Glad you finally saw it John.


And remained civil, Jim.
--
'Til next time,

John H



He gets what he deserves John.......I am sure you will finally see that.


Now Jim. Only a couple months ago you were making comments like that about
the guy you're following around now. It's really not that hard to be nice.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH January 27th 06 02:03 AM

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"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:45:16 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:17:59 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at
the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or
the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew
up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia.
If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your
travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his
last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling
of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.

Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So,
I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've
gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads.
It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a
discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time -
--
John H


Glad you finally saw it John.


And remained civil, Jim.
--
'Til next time,

John H



He gets what he deserves John.......I am sure you will finally see that.


Now Jim. Only a couple months ago you were making comments like that about
the guy you're following around now. It's really not that hard to be nice.



I am nice....to those who are honest and do not spend their first month here
flaming and telling lies about the members her.

Do you respect folks like that John?
******************************************




Don White January 27th 06 02:04 AM

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JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:



Harry Krause wrote:



Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.


Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time - --
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



Lonely out there on the frozen prairie.



Derby, Kansas in January.............nothing but lonely steers and queers,
and they all find comfort with each other in one way or another.


Ouch!
Say it ain't so Skipper.

JimH January 27th 06 02:07 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:



Harry Krause wrote:



Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.


Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads. It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time - --
John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Lonely out there on the frozen prairie.



Derby, Kansas in January.............nothing but lonely steers and
queers, and they all find comfort with each other in one way or another.


Ouch!
Say it ain't so Skipper.



I think he is *tending* his herd and preoccupied at this time. :-)



Wayne.B January 27th 06 02:25 AM

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:44:46 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I hope you'll provide videos of that tow job.


Looks like the Accord is going to need more flotation than I've got
laying around at the moment, and Mrs B was not taken with the idea,
even after I explained the importance of towability to her.


Wayne.B January 27th 06 02:27 AM

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:56:22 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

i know one guy who is pretty annoyed about towability. when i was on
my way to the mri this morning, i saw a hunter 45c on a flatbed pulled
over by the ct sp - i wonder why? :)


Couldn't have been an overweight issue, might be the first time a
Hunter ever got a speeding ticket?


Calif Bill January 27th 06 05:01 AM

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We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the
slip and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And
convenient.


Yep.

That was our old marina. Our new one is not as nice (amenity wise) but
actually has more open grass/tree area to picnic in....more of a park like
setting. When we drive up to our dock our boat will be sitting 15 from
the car, with a grassy area in front and a large park like setting behind.


Land next to a lake is not a $1,000,000+ an acre in Ohio.



Calif Bill January 27th 06 05:04 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at
the moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not)
or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia.
If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.
Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.
I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.

Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've
gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads.
It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a
discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time - --
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Lonely out there on the frozen prairie.


Derby, Kansas in January.............nothing but lonely steers and
queers, and they all find comfort with each other in one way or another.


No self-respecting queer would live anywhere near Derby, Kansas.

I've been out there, in that area. It's bloody awful.


I just mapped Derby on Yahoo. Only thing he is close to is an interstate.
And that is not even a western heading interstate.



Calif Bill January 27th 06 05:06 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:27:00 -0600, Skipper wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at
the moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not)
or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if
someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia.
If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.
Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.
I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.

Well, Skipper, yesterday you complained about off topic posts. So, I've
tried to maintain an on topic discussion with you. You've used every
possible opportunity to make a crack about Krause, and now you've
gotten
into a ****ing contest with him.

So, please, no more complaining about the lack of on topic threads.
It's
patently obvious you want to push your own agenda, not have a
discussion
that's on topic.

'Til next time - --
John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Lonely out there on the frozen prairie.


Derby, Kansas in January.............nothing but lonely steers and
queers, and they all find comfort with each other in one way or another.


No self-respecting queer would live anywhere near Derby, Kansas.

I've been out there, in that area. It's bloody awful.


Use to have a friend in Okalahoma. He said it was always windy because
either Texas or Kansas was always blowing and the other sucked.



JimH January 27th 06 12:17 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...



We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers
to your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the
slip and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And
convenient.


Yep.

That was our old marina. Our new one is not as nice (amenity wise) but
actually has more open grass/tree area to picnic in....more of a park
like setting. When we drive up to our dock our boat will be sitting 15
from the car, with a grassy area in front and a large park like setting
behind.


Land next to a lake is not a $1,000,000+ an acre in Ohio.



A full acre of lakeshore (Lake Erie) property in the suburbs certainly is.



Reggie Smithers January 27th 06 12:40 PM

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Skipper wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote:

Skipper wrote:


You just can't underestimate the towability of the candidate boats. It's
the *major* factor in this adventure, not how they ride across the bay.
Both boats will do just fine on those waters. However, the Grady would
be my choice between these two in the hot summer months for obvious
reasons.


Oh yes, we all know now that towability is the single most important
criteria when evaluating boats.


Thank you for the enlightenment.


I'm going outside now to hich up the Grand Banks to my wife's Honda
Accord.


Thank you for the thank you, Whine. It's good that we are back to
discussing boating and not flaming each other, yes?

--
Skipper

Skipper,
I don't think Wayne's comment was a flame, it was sarcasm designed to
prove a point. While towability might be an important factor for a few
people, it is not, nor should it be the most important consideration for
most.

Most people who want to take a boating vacation a long distance from
home, will charter a boat. This is the reason there are so many charter
companies in the Florida and the Carri bean. There are many charter
companies in San Diego and around the Sea of Cortes that allow you do
cruise without the hidden expense of wear to your tow vehicle when you
trailer a boat 1500 miles. They are also stocked with provisions and
outfitted for the area you will be boating.

--
Reggie
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