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Bryan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow to
remote adventures.
Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much, much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.
How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?


Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up and
proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man says,
stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels; Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about the North
winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come howlin' down off
the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy revisiting the area
as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.


Bryan,
You will find it spelled both ways. The most common spelling is Cortez,
but the Sea's namesake spelled it Cortes. It is my old Spanish lessons
kicking in when I spell it Cortes.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Bryan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow to
remote adventures.
Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much, much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.
How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?


Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up and
proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man says,
stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels; Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about the North
winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come howlin' down off
the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy revisiting the area
as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.



Here are some examples of Cortes vs Cortez.

http://www.amsafari.com/mexico.html
http://www.seawatch.org/reports/sea_of_cortez.php
Note: SeaWatch spells it both ways on the same page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Cortez
Note: According to Wikipedia " The Gulf of California (also
known as the
Sea of Cortez or Sea of Cortés; locally known in the Spanish language as
Mar de Cortés
or, much less frequently, Golfo de California) is a body of water that
separates the
Baja California Peninsula from the Mexican mainland. It is bordered by
the states of
Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora, and Sinaloa. The name
"Gulf of California"
predominates on most maps in English today. The name "Sea of Cortés" is
the one preferred
by most local residents.









--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment). It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the
Gulf of California. I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone
actually looks it up and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up
with and I'm, like the man says, stickin' to it.

I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If anyone
isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially you
fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels; Bahia
del Los Angeles would be a great destination.

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last
name is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of
the name, but not the way the man himself spelled it.

I'd really like to see you take that position, Krause, at a Marina
Palmira dock party...heck, they'd probably just hand you another beer
knowing your whacked.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
Don't you think all those people partying really would not care one way
or the other? My guess is there would be a few Spaniards in the group
who would think it was funny that the some Mexicans changed the spelling.

All in all, it really doesn't matter. You say Tomato .....

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:30:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:01:40 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Guaymas to Santa Rosalia.
So when is your next trip?

We eagerly await the report.
seriously, i have never done any fishing in that area - i would really
like to sometime in the future.

anybody want to get up a group charter? :)
You said, you were not leaving the country. ;( And how good is a one
armed fisherman? How can you scratch your ass while fishing?

An even greater dilema: a fish on the line and an unopened cold beer in
hand. Does a one-armed fishermen who enjoys his beer, use his one arm to
open the beer or let it go and hang on to the fish?


There is rarely any beer drunk on my boat. I have maybe 12 beers a year,
and I do not allow smoking on the boat.


In my younger days I smoked and drank beer on my boats. I would always
alternate between a beer and water/soft drink, and make sure I didn't
drink more than one beer an hour, but I loved a good dark beer.

Today, I find I get too tired/sleepy drinking beer, so I will normally
split a beer with my wife, savoring the flavor.

Thank God, I quit smoking.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Bryan wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last name
is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of the name,
but not the way the man himself spelled it.

But, Harry, the sea, not the man, is called the Sea of Cortez. It doesn't
matter that he was a Spaniard. The Gulf of California is called the Sea of
Cortez. Now I will concede that this spelling is prevalent on English
language maps and documents, and that Spanish language maps and documents
may very well disagree with the spelling. Still, you remind me of me back
in the day when I took my last university English course. One of the topics
we covered was the evolution of language. It was very upsetting to me, the
dumbing down of the language; but I had to concede that language, whether it
was alright with me, or not, does evolve, and words and their meanings,
uses, pronunciations, even spellings, does change as a result of external
pressures. So, whether Senor Cortes was Spanish or Mexican makes no
difference to me; I still have to look up the Sea of Cortez under the Cortez
spelling. By the way, did you really find my comment on spelling more
interesting than my suggestion that boating in the Gulf of California would
be a great idea for anyone interested in such an endeavor?


Bryan,
It appears that Cortez is an Americanized spelling of the Sea of Cortes.
They have changed the s to a z to reflect the phonetic spelling of Cortes.

If you run a Goggle on Mar de Cortés you will get 1.9 million hits, so
it appears the Mexicans do spell it Cortes.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper,
I don't think Wayne's comment was a flame, it was sarcasm designed to
prove a point. While towability might be an important factor for a few
people, it is not, nor should it be the most important consideration for
most.

I never proffered that towability is the *most* important factor...but
it is an important factor in a truly trailerable boat. Weight, width and
towing profile all enter into that equation. Most boats with boxy cabins
have horrible towing profiles, as is the case with that Parker.

Most people who want to take a boating vacation a long distance from
home, will charter a boat. This is the reason there are so many charter
companies in the Florida and the Carri bean. There are many charter
companies in San Diego and around the Sea of Cortes that allow you do
cruise without the hidden expense of wear to your tow vehicle when you
trailer a boat 1500 miles. They are also stocked with provisions and
outfitted for the area you will be boating.

We were based out of San Carlos on a July visit
to the Cortez. The old Miramar hotel had a large thatch covered palapa
on Bacochibampo beach just out of Guaymas that featured good drinks and
mariachi music 'til the wee hours of the morning. We dinghied over to
Bacochibampo in the late afternoon for dinner, drinks, and a few hours
of good conversation after a busy day of diving.

Time seemed to slip by. It was about 10 PM when, drawn by the sound of
the surf gently lapping the shore, I stepped off the palapa's large
concrete floor to walk the sand beach on this moonless night. As I
approached the shore with the sound of mariachi music playing in the
distance, the scene seemed magical. The bioluminescence of the small
waves breaking on shore was surrealistic and illuminated the area with a
faint green glow. I must have walked two miles of the beach that
evening. I'd seen this glow before and since, but never with so much
intensity.

Returning the 10 miles to San Carlos that evening was also an
unforgettable experience. Senses were raised as we skimmed across the
clear warm waters of the bay. Forward, the surface was not visible, you
saw stars, dim lights from the distant shore, and a three dimensional
sea with bioluminescent waters highlighting schools of fish and a few
monsters at depths up to fifty feet. Astern, the wake offered a bright
glow and reassurance that you were not indeed floating *in* the sea.

--
Skipper

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Reggie Smithers wrote:

It appears that Cortez is an Americanized spelling of the Sea of Cortes.
They have changed the s to a z to reflect the phonetic spelling of Cortes.

If you run a Goggle on Mar de Cortés you will get 1.9 million hits, so
it appears the Mexicans do spell it Cortes.

And I've found that most folks who proffer 'Cortes' or Gulf of
California have never been to the area. Boaters, fisherman, and divers
with decades of travels there refer to it simply as the Cortez.

--
Skipper

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Skipper wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

It appears that Cortez is an Americanized spelling of the Sea of Cortes.
They have changed the s to a z to reflect the phonetic spelling of Cortes.

If you run a Goggle on Mar de Cortés you will get 1.9 million hits, so
it appears the Mexicans do spell it Cortes.

And I've found that most folks who proffer 'Cortes' or Gulf of
California have never been to the area. Boaters, fisherman, and divers
with decades of travels there refer to it simply as the Cortez.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
Since I have never been to Mar de Cortes you can understand why I call
it Sea of Cortes. I am curious, since very few of the boaters,
fisherman, and divers you meet would actually be writing the word out,
and would be using the word verbally how do you know how they would
spell it. It appears the Mexicans spell it Cortes.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Reggie Smithers wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:

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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:30:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:01:40 -0600, Skipper
wrote:

Guaymas to Santa Rosalia.

So when is your next trip?

We eagerly await the report.

seriously, i have never done any fishing in that area - i would really
like to sometime in the future.

anybody want to get up a group charter? :)

You said, you were not leaving the country. ;( And how good is a
one armed fisherman? How can you scratch your ass while fishing?

An even greater dilema: a fish on the line and an unopened cold beer
in hand. Does a one-armed fishermen who enjoys his beer, use his one
arm to open the beer or let it go and hang on to the fish?


There is rarely any beer drunk on my boat. I have maybe 12 beers a
year, and I do not allow smoking on the boat.

In my younger days I smoked and drank beer on my boats. I would always
alternate between a beer and water/soft drink, and make sure I didn't
drink more than one beer an hour, but I loved a good dark beer.

Today, I find I get too tired/sleepy drinking beer, so I will normally
split a beer with my wife, savoring the flavor.

Thank God, I quit smoking.


Switch to a nice 'Pilsener'. Easier to quaff your thirst ( next to
draught beer).
http://www.labattblue.ca/index.jsp

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We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the
slip and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And
convenient.


Yep.

That was our old marina. Our new one is not as nice (amenity wise) but
actually has more open grass/tree area to picnic in....more of a park like
setting. When we drive up to our dock our boat will be sitting 15 from
the car, with a grassy area in front and a large park like setting behind.


Land next to a lake is not a $1,000,000+ an acre in Ohio.

Uh, you are dead ass wrong, as usual.

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"Skipper" wrote in message
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Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper,
I don't think Wayne's comment was a flame, it was sarcasm designed to
prove a point. While towability might be an important factor for a few
people, it is not, nor should it be the most important consideration for
most.

I never proffered that towability is the *most* important factor...but
it is an important factor in a truly trailerable boat. Weight, width and
towing profile all enter into that equation. Most boats with boxy cabins
have horrible towing profiles, as is the case with that Parker.

Most people who want to take a boating vacation a long distance from
home, will charter a boat. This is the reason there are so many charter
companies in the Florida and the Carri bean. There are many charter
companies in San Diego and around the Sea of Cortes that allow you do
cruise without the hidden expense of wear to your tow vehicle when you
trailer a boat 1500 miles. They are also stocked with provisions and
outfitted for the area you will be boating.

We were based out of San Carlos on a July visit
to the Cortez. The old Miramar hotel had a large thatch covered palapa
on Bacochibampo beach just out of Guaymas that featured good drinks and
mariachi music 'til the wee hours of the morning. We dinghied over to
Bacochibampo in the late afternoon for dinner, drinks, and a few hours
of good conversation after a busy day of diving.

Time seemed to slip by. It was about 10 PM when, drawn by the sound of
the surf gently lapping the shore, I stepped off the palapa's large
concrete floor to walk the sand beach on this moonless night. As I
approached the shore with the sound of mariachi music playing in the
distance, the scene seemed magical. The bioluminescence of the small
waves breaking on shore was surrealistic and illuminated the area with a
faint green glow. I must have walked two miles of the beach that
evening. I'd seen this glow before and since, but never with so much
intensity.

Returning the 10 miles to San Carlos that evening was also an
unforgettable experience. Senses were raised as we skimmed across the
clear warm waters of the bay. Forward, the surface was not visible, you
saw stars, dim lights from the distant shore, and a three dimensional
sea with bioluminescent waters highlighting schools of fish and a few
monsters at depths up to fifty feet. Astern, the wake offered a bright
glow and reassurance that you were not indeed floating *in* the sea.

--
Skipper

If the criteria was towing profile, you would see very few fifth wheels on
the road!

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We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was
a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers
to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the
slip and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And
convenient.


Yep.

That was our old marina. Our new one is not as nice (amenity wise) but
actually has more open grass/tree area to picnic in....more of a park
like
setting. When we drive up to our dock our boat will be sitting 15 from
the car, with a grassy area in front and a large park like setting
behind.


Land next to a lake is not a $1,000,000+ an acre in Ohio.

Uh, you are dead ass wrong, as usual.


Very little of that area is as high valued / over valued as California or
Florida land.

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We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was
a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger
piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

http://www.huronlagoons.com/c-slip%208-10-03%20002.jpg




Picture's worth a whole bunch of words! I'm going to assume that the
slip and the parking space are a matched set. Looks nice. And
convenient.


Yep.

That was our old marina. Our new one is not as nice (amenity wise)
but
actually has more open grass/tree area to picnic in....more of a park
like
setting. When we drive up to our dock our boat will be sitting 15
from
the car, with a grassy area in front and a large park like setting
behind.


Land next to a lake is not a $1,000,000+ an acre in Ohio.

Uh, you are dead ass wrong, as usual.


Very little of that area is as high valued / over valued as California or
Florida land.


Perhaps. But that was not the point. You said that water front property in
Ohio does not go for $1 mm+/acre in Ohio and you are wrong.

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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph.
Easier on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned
two lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill
filling your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough
busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there,
gets good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


Some clarification, Bill. Do you tow your boat with your truck at 80
mph or just drive your truck without the boat at 80 mph?


I tow 65-70 on the freeway. Radar detector on. Without boat I do about
80-82 on trips to LA area. Both daughters live there. At 82 I get
about 18.3 mpg at 85 I get about 15.9 mpg. Has got to be the ECU
programming. I tow with a 2004 2500 Crewcab diesel.


Geez Bill, I'm stuck at 14mpg unloaded with my 2001 Ford F150 Supercrew,
12.5mpg towing the boat at 60-70 mph, and 7 mpg towing my 25 foot trailer
at 55-65 mph. I'd love to improve my mpg a bit, especially with the
trailer attached!

How often does that radar detector light up on our highways?


The radar detector is really useful on 101 North of you. Every chippie
has a radar unit. My 1999 Expedition 4x4, probably same 5.4L saw 16.5 mpg
one time. Love the diesel, except for the fuel prices, and in LA is
harder to find diesel stations. And my boat / trailer is about 4400# and
towing to Tahoe or Oroville is a dream. If you camp, take your boat to
Oroville. Beautiful lake, and some of the nicest campgrounds around.
Really nice bathrooms with power outlets. Wife loves that part. Great
4th of July fireworks, just too hot then. So we've been going to Gold
Beach, OR for the 4th now.


I've got Oroville and Cherry on my list of 12. I'll take my own boat to 11
of the 12 and I'll rent for #12 (Lake Powell). I should be able to get half
a dozen crossed off my list by the end of summer. I'd like to do them all
by the end of summer, but ...

What do think of combining Don Pedro and Cherry for a long weekend?

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Remount the 9.9 motor, tow it to Eagle Creek Reservoir, buy a season launch
permit (85.00), launch it, and fish all summer. :-)

Fredo



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Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has no
bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it all
depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.

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#1 Wait for spring :((((
#2 Gas up and go :)