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Eisboch wrote:
Wow. It appears that at least three people here on rec.boats are willing to make generous donations to good causes. May I suggest that each of you just send your checks to your own favorite charity and stop worrying about lobsta' boats? I am truly impressed though. Very charitable newsgroup, rec.boats. This toilet gets quite a few "donations." -- Skipper |
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Harry,
I'll bet you, I would buy you a beer, coffee or maybe a lunch. I am going to be in Baltimore the first of the year, are you available? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Netsock" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:36:54 -0600, "William Bruce" wrote: Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name. How 'bout it? Pu-lease. The man is a proven liar. Everything he posts here is fabrication...house (I've seen his real house), boat, wife, education...everything. But tell you what Krause...I too will donate $10,000.00 to your favorite charity, if you can post proof that my father owns a sea-going full scale boat...as you have claimed many many times. Heck, Ill even let you have Gene sleuth for you. So how about it? __ Wow. It appears that at least three people here on rec.boats are willing to make generous donations to good causes. May I suggest that each of you just send your checks to your own favorite charity and stop worrying about lobsta' boats? I am truly impressed though. Very charitable newsgroup, rec.boats. Eisboch These guys don't have two nickels to rub together. Further, Nutsack is on drugs. The idiot lives in Ohio, and some years ago claimed he worked on his dad's jetboat for use on little lakes. How that built itself up into a "sea-going full scale boat" I don't know. Maybe it is made from foreskins...you rub them and voila! Tell you what, Eisboch. If you are in the area, I'll bet you that I'll buy you a beer or a coffee or maybe even a lunch at a waterfront dive. -- DeLay, Tom: Past tense of De Lie. |
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You're not even a Christmas?
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Nope, this is an actual invitation. If I can get some free time I will buy
lunch in Little Italy. I never go to Baltimore without eating Linguini w/ Seafood. To be honest though, I will still keep my last name, address and phone number anonymous. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, I'll bet you, I would buy you a beer, coffee or maybe a lunch. I am going to be in Baltimore the first of the year, are you available? I might be. I have a major client in Bal'mer, and am up there at least every other week. Why? Is this an actual "invitation" or are you playing the weasel again? -- Bush: Always Wrong, Never in Doubt. |
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Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote:
Harry, I'll bet you, I would buy you a beer, coffee or maybe a lunch. I am going to be in Baltimore the first of the year, are you available? Not only is he available, he's cheap as hell. At least that's what we were told by a fellow who once posted to this NG as his 'bud' under the name of Mark Poirier. Seems the fellow was stiffed by Harry. ref - Nov 2002 posts to NG -- Skipper |
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Harry Krause wrote:
I'd need a specific, direct, written invitation. Oh, and I don't meet people without knowing who they are. I don't give a crap about your address and phone number, but unless you are willing to supply your real, verifiable full name, I wouldn't meet you or, for that matter, anyone else. What you are proposing sounds like the game played in dating bars by those in their 20's. I'm beyond that. I promise not to bring along my bodyguard or any weapons. Why does this remind me of the 'meet' in that Italian restaurant from the Godfather movie? Best not let Harry visit the restroom. -- Skipper |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Not only is he available, he's cheap as hell. At least that's what we were told by a fellow who once posted to this NG as his 'bud' under the name of Mark Poirier. Seems the fellow was stiffed by Harry. Speaking of stiffies, Skipper, when's the last time you were able to offer Mrs. Skipper one? Did Mark ever get that bottle of wine, or did you 'welch' on him as he told us? -- Skipper |
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It is no wonder harry doesn't want to be seen
"Narcissists don't volunteer the usual personal information about themselves, so they may seem secretive or perhaps unusually reserved or very jealous of their privacy. All these things are true, but with the special narcissistic twist that, first, their real life isn't interesting to them so it doesn't occur to them that it would be interesting to anyone else and, second, since they have not yet been transfigured into the Star of the Universe, they're ashamed of their real life. They feel that their jobs, their friends and families, their homes and possessions aren't good enough for them, they deserve better. " "Skipper" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: I'd need a specific, direct, written invitation. Oh, and I don't meet people without knowing who they are. I don't give a crap about your address and phone number, but unless you are willing to supply your real, verifiable full name, I wouldn't meet you or, for that matter, anyone else. What you are proposing sounds like the game played in dating bars by those in their 20's. I'm beyond that. I promise not to bring along my bodyguard or any weapons. Why does this remind me of the 'meet' in that Italian restaurant from the Godfather movie? Best not let Harry visit the restroom. -- Skipper |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Netsock wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Let me try again. It brews a single cup at a time, but its water reservoir holds enough for six cups. It uses little single-service cups of coffee which you pop in and in a minute or so, a cup of freshly brewed coffee pours out into your cup. If you want another cup, you pop in another little single-service cup of coffee. I presume its next to your computer, as its obvious you don't get for hours at a time. On that same note, does your doctor doctor wife put a catheter in, or do you use a bucket? Poor Nutsack. He must be competing with Fritz. It's no wonder you don't work for the ad agency anymore with retort's like that. |
How 'bout it Krause?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, You have stated many times you celebrate the holiday of Christmas, even though you are not a Christian. I am sure I can Google it up very easily. I don't give a crap what you google up. I'm not a Christian. I do not pray to or through Jesus, nor do I have even the slightest belief that Jesus was who Christians claim. I certainly don't "celebrate the holiday" of Christmas in any sort of "Christian" way. Yes, I admire Christmas decorations, and I like a lot of the classical Christmas music. I even sometimes go to a church for reasons you do not know. To be absolved of your sins you must in your heart truly repent. Otherwise, it is just you trying to buy your way into heaven. Christmas is just another day to me. If it falls during the week and nothing is open that I want to or need to do, I sleep in. When I worked for The Associated Press, I always volunteered to work Christmas Day. And Easter Sunday. In those days, the union contract called for triple time on those days. Why? |
How 'bout it Krause?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Netsock" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:36:54 -0600, "William Bruce" wrote: Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name. How 'bout it? Pu-lease. The man is a proven liar. Everything he posts here is fabrication...house (I've seen his real house), boat, wife, education...everything. But tell you what Krause...I too will donate $10,000.00 to your favorite charity, if you can post proof that my father owns a sea-going full scale boat...as you have claimed many many times. Heck, Ill even let you have Gene sleuth for you. So how about it? __ Wow. It appears that at least three people here on rec.boats are willing to make generous donations to good causes. May I suggest that each of you just send your checks to your own favorite charity and stop worrying about lobsta' boats? I am truly impressed though. Very charitable newsgroup, rec.boats. Eisboch These guys don't have two nickels to rub together. Further, Nutsack is on drugs. The idiot lives in Ohio, and some years ago claimed he worked on his dad's jetboat for use on little lakes. How that built itself up into a "sea-going full scale boat" I don't know. Isn't it sad that you have to create and update dossiers for all of us righties. Maybe it is made from foreskins...you rub them and voila! Tell you what, Eisboch. If you are in the area, I'll bet you that I'll buy you a beer or a coffee or maybe even a lunch at a waterfront dive. But, you won't show him your Lobsta' boat will you? |
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Bert,
No one gets to see the Lobster Boat until Skipper dies, and the obit is published in the Newspaper. My guess is by that time, it would have been sold. "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Netsock" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:36:54 -0600, "William Bruce" wrote: Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name. How 'bout it? Pu-lease. The man is a proven liar. Everything he posts here is fabrication...house (I've seen his real house), boat, wife, education...everything. But tell you what Krause...I too will donate $10,000.00 to your favorite charity, if you can post proof that my father owns a sea-going full scale boat...as you have claimed many many times. Heck, Ill even let you have Gene sleuth for you. So how about it? __ Wow. It appears that at least three people here on rec.boats are willing to make generous donations to good causes. May I suggest that each of you just send your checks to your own favorite charity and stop worrying about lobsta' boats? I am truly impressed though. Very charitable newsgroup, rec.boats. Eisboch These guys don't have two nickels to rub together. Further, Nutsack is on drugs. The idiot lives in Ohio, and some years ago claimed he worked on his dad's jetboat for use on little lakes. How that built itself up into a "sea-going full scale boat" I don't know. Isn't it sad that you have to create and update dossiers for all of us righties. Maybe it is made from foreskins...you rub them and voila! Tell you what, Eisboch. If you are in the area, I'll bet you that I'll buy you a beer or a coffee or maybe even a lunch at a waterfront dive. But, you won't show him your Lobsta' boat will you? |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:05:52 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote:
Ouch. that is a long list. I don't know what I did wrong, but my kids have never asked for Christmas presents. We have always purchased them presents, but I think they wanted to be completely surprised. My wife did not believe pretending there was a Santa (she didn't like the idea of lying to them, even with someone as innocent as Santa Claus), so that might be the reason they never got into the long list of Christmas presents. As the kids got older, it becomes harder and harder to figure out what they really want. You have to start earlier in the year planning and (heaven help us) I actually have to listen to what they are talking about. " JimH" wrote in message ... Kevin cannot admit that a child asking for a bike, PS2, ipod, Nintendo DS and other things for Christmas (with the list growing longer every day) is not being greedy. He also does not see that by buying those material goods shows he is giving into the retail marketing tools and does not understand the true meaning of Christmas. "P Fritz" wrote in message ... That he doesn't like the way harry posts in this NG???? "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote in message ... Kevin, What are you trying to say? wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: wrote in message oups.com... William Bruce wrote: Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name. How 'bout it? William (The first step in creating a contract is identifying the parties involved. Since nobody knows who you are, you might as well promise $10,000,000.00. It would be equally meaningless. Making conditional promises about things you will do "if" is ridiculous when you cannot be held accountable) An observation from a guy who has no interest in "defending Harry," (Harry can take care of himself, and does, very adequately.): Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry and Basskisser supposed to be getting spiritually prepared for what a recently touted book declares the "most sacred Christian holiday" of the year? Will these personal attack threads continue until midnight of the 24th? Kevin gets what he deserves Chuck. His posts contain vulgar language and one or more of the following: idiot, nitwit, dolt, ignorant, dumb...and so on. Here is a list over the past days: Reverend Jim, what do you say about someone who posts questions with the intent to make someone believe he is being truthful, when he is not, then when the person turns around and does exactly the same to you, you cry and whine like a baby? Reverend Jim, what do you say about someone who is such a low life scum that when someone doesn't agree with him, or proves him wrong, that he resorts to such low practices as saying nasty, uncalled for things about that person's dead mother, his wife, and even his children? Reverend Jim, what do you say about someone who continually insults, then turns around and whines about people being insulting? Reverend Jim, what do you say about someone who tells lies about others here, then turns around and chastises others for lying? Reverend Jim, you've done all of the above. You are such a low life that you've even gone so far as to insult my children. THAT, my friend proves to everyone here just what a piece of **** you are. No one here, except maybe Fritz, who's nose is constantly in your ass, would agree that THAT behavior is anything that a real man would engage in. But, alas, you have. On a check, write a whole number. The more zero's you add, the better they will like it. Trust me on this, 'cause I know my simple math. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
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How 'bout it Krause?
Bert Robbins wrote: Chuck never scolds the left his remarks are written such that he describes what the right is doing and then says "Can't we all just get along?" If you think you recognize "the right" so clearly when I remark on negative behavior without assigning names or blame, what does that tell you? |
How 'bout it Krause?
Don White wrote:
Jim M wrote: "William Bruce" wrote in : Hey Krause, my offer stands: Prove to the "reasonable man" standard that (1) you have a degree from Yale, (2) your wife is a medical doctor, and (3) that you own a lobster boat and I'll overnight a $10,000.00 check to the charity of your choice in your name. How 'bout it? William Sounds reasonable. Harry? Wish you'd give me that offer. I'd have the money sent to the George W Bush retirement fund. I thing that might be the most charitable thing I could do for the American people. ...and by the way, he can take that 'Cracker' ambassador to Canada, David Wilkins, with him. http://www.herald.ns.ca/Canada You "thing"? Next time "thing" ahead before you correct my typing, Don. Dan |
How 'bout it Krause?
Harry Krause wrote:
I promise not to bring along my bodyguard or any weapons. Why does this remind me of the 'meet' in that Italian restaurant from the Godfather movie? Best not let Harry visit the restroom. You mean Louis' restaurant in the Bronx? Naw. I do know some really scary guys, though. Big guys with doubleknit suits and bulges in their jackets. Just the kind that would love to meet up with a little sh*t like you, Snipper. But you claimed to have already attempted that via your JDL thugs in KC. -- Skipper |
How 'bout it Krause?
Harry Krause wrote:
Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Nope, this is an actual invitation. If I can get some free time I will buy lunch in Little Italy. I never go to Baltimore without eating Linguini w/ Seafood. To be honest though, I will still keep my last name, address and phone number anonymous. I'd need a specific, direct, written invitation. Oh, and I don't meet people without knowing who they are. I don't give a crap about your address and phone number, but unless you are willing to supply your real, verifiable full name, I wouldn't meet you or, for that matter, anyone else. What you are proposing sounds like the game played in dating bars by those in their 20's. I'm beyond that. I don't know why you are so concerned, anyway. I know Herring's full name, I know his address, and I know where his street is, though I don't believe I've ever driven down it. I had an office real close to his place. All I ever did to Herring was ask him if he'd to go fishing or for a boat ride. Real scary stuff, eh? I promise not to bring along my bodyguard or any weapons. You have a bodyguard? |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:19:51 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Nope, this is an actual invitation. If I can get some free time I will buy lunch in Little Italy. I never go to Baltimore without eating Linguini w/ Seafood. To be honest though, I will still keep my last name, address and phone number anonymous. I'd need a specific, direct, written invitation. Oh, and I don't meet people without knowing who they are. I don't give a crap about your address and phone number, but unless you are willing to supply your real, verifiable full name, I wouldn't meet you or, for that matter, anyone else. What you are proposing sounds like the game played in dating bars by those in their 20's. I'm beyond that. I don't know why you are so concerned, anyway. I know Herring's full name, I know his address, and I know where his street is, though I don't believe I've ever driven down it. I had an office real close to his place. All I ever did to Herring was ask him if he'd to go fishing or for a boat ride. Real scary stuff, eh? I promise not to bring along my bodyguard or any weapons. Why all this talk about me? I've said almost nothing to you all day, but my name keeps popping up in your posts. Strange, these obsessions of yours. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
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Harry is just a pathetic dried up fool suffering from NPD and BDS........
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Netsock wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Let me try again. It brews a single cup at a time, but its water reservoir holds enough for six cups. It uses little single-service cups of coffee which you pop in and in a minute or so, a cup of freshly brewed coffee pours out into your cup. If you want another cup, you pop in another little single-service cup of coffee. I presume its next to your computer, as its obvious you don't get for hours at a time. On that same note, does your doctor doctor wife put a catheter in, or do you use a bucket? Poor Nutsack. He must be competing with Fritz. It's no wonder you don't work for the ad agency anymore with retort's like that. |
How 'bout it Krause?
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, You have stated many times you celebrate the holiday of Christmas, even though you are not a Christian. I am sure I can Google it up very easily. I don't give a crap what you google up. I'm not a Christian. I do not pray to or through Jesus, nor do I have even the slightest belief that Jesus was who Christians claim. I certainly don't "celebrate the holiday" of Christmas in any sort of "Christian" way. Yes, I admire Christmas decorations, and I like a lot of the classical Christmas music. I even sometimes go to a church for reasons you do not know. To be absolved of your sins you must in your heart truly repent. Otherwise, it is just you trying to buy your way into heaven. That is not the reason he goes to church.............. "Narcissists are totally and inflexibly authoritarian. In other words, they are suck-ups. They want to be authority figures and, short of that, they want to be associated with authority figures. In their hearts, they know they can't think well, have no judgment about what matters, are not connected with the world they inhabit, so they cling fanatically to the opinions of people they regard as authority figures -- such as their parents, teachers, doctors, ministers. Where relevant, this may include scientists or professors or artists, but narcissists stick to people they know personally, since they aren't engaged enough with the world to get their authoritative opinions from TV, movies, books or dead geniuses/saints/heroes. If they get in trouble over some or another opinion they've put forth, they'll blame the source -- "It was okay with Dr. Somebody," "My father taught me that," etc." Christmas is just another day to me. If it falls during the week and nothing is open that I want to or need to do, I sleep in. When I worked for The Associated Press, I always volunteered to work Christmas Day. And Easter Sunday. In those days, the union contract called for triple time on those days. Why? |
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wrote in message oups.com... Bert Robbins wrote: Chuck never scolds the left his remarks are written such that he describes what the right is doing and then says "Can't we all just get along?" If you think you recognize "the right" so clearly when I remark on negative behavior without assigning names or blame, what does that tell you? It tells me you are a partisan hack and hypocrite. Aren't you going on a rec.boats sabatical sometime soon? |
How 'bout it Krause?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, You have stated many times you celebrate the holiday of Christmas, even though you are not a Christian. I am sure I can Google it up very easily. I don't give a crap what you google up. I'm not a Christian. I do not pray to or through Jesus, nor do I have even the slightest belief that Jesus was who Christians claim. I certainly don't "celebrate the holiday" of Christmas in any sort of "Christian" way. Yes, I admire Christmas decorations, and I like a lot of the classical Christmas music. I even sometimes go to a church for reasons you do not know. To be absolved of your sins you must in your heart truly repent. Otherwise, it is just you trying to buy your way into heaven. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. Kind of like the union thugs beating up independent workers when the union is on strike. |
How 'bout it Krause?
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:31:12 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The
WordSmith wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message These guys don't have two nickels to rub together. LOL! I guarantee my net worth is MUCH more than yours. Did you ever break down and buy that extra $5 gas can yet? LOL! Further, Nutsack is on drugs. Really? What kind? The idiot lives in Pot, kettle, black... :) Ohio, and some years ago claimed he worked on his dad's jetboat for use on little lakes. [yawn] Another flagrant lie. How about some proof to your claims Krause...that's all we are asking. How that built itself up into a "sea-going full scale boat" I don't know. Not having one, you wouldn't. None the less, my $10,000.00 offer still stands. __ "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
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JohnH,
No, Chuck is always impartial and unbiased in all of his comments. He would never coyly place blame for everything wrong with the world on conservatives. "John H." wrote in message ... On 14 Dec 2005 17:20:30 -0800, wrote: Bert Robbins wrote: Chuck never scolds the left his remarks are written such that he describes what the right is doing and then says "Can't we all just get along?" If you think you recognize "the right" so clearly when I remark on negative behavior without assigning names or blame, what does that tell you? Is this not assigning blame? "...Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry and Basskisser..." -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! |
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JohnH,
That is because we love you. ;) "John H." wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:19:51 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Nope, this is an actual invitation. If I can get some free time I will buy lunch in Little Italy. I never go to Baltimore without eating Linguini w/ Seafood. To be honest though, I will still keep my last name, address and phone number anonymous. I'd need a specific, direct, written invitation. Oh, and I don't meet people without knowing who they are. I don't give a crap about your address and phone number, but unless you are willing to supply your real, verifiable full name, I wouldn't meet you or, for that matter, anyone else. What you are proposing sounds like the game played in dating bars by those in their 20's. I'm beyond that. I don't know why you are so concerned, anyway. I know Herring's full name, I know his address, and I know where his street is, though I don't believe I've ever driven down it. I had an office real close to his place. All I ever did to Herring was ask him if he'd to go fishing or for a boat ride. Real scary stuff, eh? I promise not to bring along my bodyguard or any weapons. Why all this talk about me? I've said almost nothing to you all day, but my name keeps popping up in your posts. Strange, these obsessions of yours. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! |
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Harry,
Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, You have stated many times you celebrate the holiday of Christmas, even though you are not a Christian. I am sure I can Google it up very easily. I don't give a crap what you google up. I'm not a Christian. I do not pray to or through Jesus, nor do I have even the slightest belief that Jesus was who Christians claim. I certainly don't "celebrate the holiday" of Christmas in any sort of "Christian" way. Yes, I admire Christmas decorations, and I like a lot of the classical Christmas music. I even sometimes go to a church for reasons you do not know. To be absolved of your sins you must in your heart truly repent. Otherwise, it is just you trying to buy your way into heaven. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. -- China: See Wal-Mart. |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:59:03 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote:
JohnH, No, Chuck is always impartial and unbiased in all of his comments. He would never coyly place blame for everything wrong with the world on conservatives. "John H." wrote in message .. . On 14 Dec 2005 17:20:30 -0800, wrote: Bert Robbins wrote: Chuck never scolds the left his remarks are written such that he describes what the right is doing and then says "Can't we all just get along?" If you think you recognize "the right" so clearly when I remark on negative behavior without assigning names or blame, what does that tell you? Is this not assigning blame? "...Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry and Basskisser..." -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! Thank you. 'Coyly' is a great word, the one for which I've been mentally searching for months, just for Chuck. You would think that a mental search shouldn't take me long, 'cause there's not a lot of places for me to look! This time, he wasn't up to his usual cute coyness. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
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JohnH,
The mind is the 2nd thing to go. "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:59:03 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote: JohnH, No, Chuck is always impartial and unbiased in all of his comments. He would never coyly place blame for everything wrong with the world on conservatives. "John H." wrote in message . .. On 14 Dec 2005 17:20:30 -0800, wrote: Bert Robbins wrote: Chuck never scolds the left his remarks are written such that he describes what the right is doing and then says "Can't we all just get along?" If you think you recognize "the right" so clearly when I remark on negative behavior without assigning names or blame, what does that tell you? Is this not assigning blame? "...Aren't at least a few of the folks in the current pig piles on Harry and Basskisser..." -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! Thank you. 'Coyly' is a great word, the one for which I've been mentally searching for months, just for Chuck. You would think that a mental search shouldn't take me long, 'cause there's not a lot of places for me to look! This time, he wasn't up to his usual cute coyness. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Krause?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:09:44 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote:
Harry, Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. -- China: See Wal-Mart. Are there 12-step groups for disorders *other* than addictions? -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Robbins
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Bert Robbins wrote: Chuck never scolds the left his remarks are written such that he describes what the right is doing and then says "Can't we all just get along?" If you think you recognize "the right" so clearly when I remark on negative behavior without assigning names or blame, what does that tell you? It tells me you are a partisan hack and hypocrite. Aren't you going on a rec.boats sabatical sometime soon? -- Named al Qaeda Recruiter of the Year: George W. Bush Wow! I am amazed! You change the subject line. |
How 'bout it Krause?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:52:50 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. I don't think you got the gist of my query. Let's be a bit more specific. Let's say that Bert Robbins doesn't like his neighbor (a safe bet), and hears of a home burglary down the street. The police come around and knock on everyone's door (not likely) while investigating. Bert says, "You know, I have a feeling my neighbor Paul Fritz might be the burglar. You said a set of custom golf clubs were stolen, and Paul once told me he really coveted the set the fellow down the street owned." The cops get a warrant, search Fritz's house, find no golf clubs, but do find an ounce of marijuana. Paul is arrested on drug charges, tried, convicted and sent to the slam for six months. Robbins, in a moment of humanity. feels a bit of guilt. So he heads over to the Holy House of St. Forgiveness, confesses to his priest or pastor, says a penance, and receives absolution. Robbins is straight with god. But he's not straight with his neighbor Paul Fritz, who is in the slam. Is Robbins required to do anything to absolve himself of the sin he committed against his neighbor, or is he off the hook morally? What does Robbins believe? -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Krause?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:57:24 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
John H. wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:09:44 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote: Harry, Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. -- China: See Wal-Mart. Are there 12-step groups for disorders *other* than addictions? -- John Herring I doubt you need 12-steps worth of instructions to increase your repertoire of disorders. Harry, may I ask why you are so uncivil this morning? What do you think of Wayne B's proposal that we all adopt a New Year's resolution to knock off the bad behavior? -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Krause?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:05:13 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
John H. wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:52:50 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. I don't think you got the gist of my query. Let's be a bit more specific. Let's say that Bert Robbins doesn't like his neighbor (a safe bet), and hears of a home burglary down the street. The police come around and knock on everyone's door (not likely) while investigating. Bert says, "You know, I have a feeling my neighbor Paul Fritz might be the burglar. You said a set of custom golf clubs were stolen, and Paul once told me he really coveted the set the fellow down the street owned." The cops get a warrant, search Fritz's house, find no golf clubs, but do find an ounce of marijuana. Paul is arrested on drug charges, tried, convicted and sent to the slam for six months. Robbins, in a moment of humanity. feels a bit of guilt. So he heads over to the Holy House of St. Forgiveness, confesses to his priest or pastor, says a penance, and receives absolution. Robbins is straight with god. But he's not straight with his neighbor Paul Fritz, who is in the slam. Is Robbins required to do anything to absolve himself of the sin he committed against his neighbor, or is he off the hook morally? What does Robbins believe? -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! In this example, in the abstract, I cannot tell. Mu guess is that according the the precepts of his church, he has confessed his sin (false witness, I suppose) to his priest-pastor, mumbled a few words he was told to mumble, and us "off the hook" theologically. Which is one of the problems I have with Christianity. In my mind, he's still on the hook with his neighbor, and he should have first worked at making things right with the neighbor before he sought absolution in his church. It doesn't seem "reasonable" for the creator to accept a sinner who has done damage to another soul and has done nothing about it, in terms of that other soul. In any religion, beliefs are paramount. If you can't tell what *he* believes, then you can't guess as to whether or not he is 'off the hook' so to speak. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Krause?
JohnH,
There are 12 step groups for just about everything. I looked in Google for a 12 step group for NPD and found there are support groups for the victims of NPD, but those with the illness rarely seek help. One of the problems mentioned is those with NPD would always try to take advantage the other members of the group. I did find many links that warned people to be concerned if someone with NPD makes a threat. It appears that NPD can be very dangerous if they feel threatened. When I first started using the Internet, my ISP warned about Security and Privacy issues. I started using an anonymous ID for Internet Security and financial info security, not personal security, after reading about NPD I am glad I have always followed the advice of the experts. Hell would freeze over before I would give any personal info to someone with NPD. "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:09:44 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote: Harry, Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. -- China: See Wal-Mart. Are there 12-step groups for disorders *other* than addictions? -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ...and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Krause?
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:55:43 -0500, "Wm Shakespeare Smithers" The WordSmith wrote:
JohnH, There are 12 step groups for just about everything. I looked in Google for a 12 step group for NPD and found there are support groups for the victims of NPD, but those with the illness rarely seek help. One of the problems mentioned is those with NPD would always try to take advantage the other members of the group. I did find many links that warned people to be concerned if someone with NPD makes a threat. It appears that NPD can be very dangerous if they feel threatened. When I first started using the Internet, my ISP warned about Security and Privacy issues. I started using an anonymous ID for Internet Security and financial info security, not personal security, after reading about NPD I am glad I have always followed the advice of the experts. Hell would freeze over before I would give any personal info to someone with NPD. Other than the occasional 'Kevin' post, I don't think I've ever seen such a hissy-fit thrown in a news group. What is even more surprising is the lack of support Harry received from his followers. Apparently his followers saw through your ploy about the same time Harry took the bait. I expect he'll be 'cowed-down' for a while. -- John Herring Hope your Christmas is Spectacular! ....and your New Year even Better! |
How 'bout it Krause?
Most 12 step groups require some kind of reasonable amends, and it might be
just apologizing or it might be more detailed. I am not sure what a priest would do, but again, my guess is if the person could make some kind of amends, he would probably be asked to do that as part of his "penance". I am just guessing, maybe some of our Catholic friends who sin can provide us with more info. Do you agree that it is amazing how practical the Bible can be? I am not suggesting their are not conflicts and hypocrisy within Christianity and churches (what group or organization does not suffer from these problems), but that the bible does provide an excellent roadmap to live by. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wm Shakespeare Smithers wrote: Harry, Wither you are Christian or not, the concept of Jesus absolving one of sins is an excellent concept. It allows the person to acknowledge their faults and sins, make amends if necessary, and free the burden of these "sins" or faults from their soul, conscience or "back". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confession It is used by therapist and 12 step groups as part of the healing process. It is one of the reasons why I am amazed at the knowledge and understanding of humanity shown by Jesus and/or his disciples when forming the early church and writing the Gospels. It really doesn't matter if you are a Christian or not, the Bible is an excellent roadmap to live by. I understand the Christian concept of absolution, but I've not been able to figure out how Christians absolve themselves for sins against their fellow man. I don't think you got the gist of my query. Let's be a bit more specific. Let's say that Bert Robbins doesn't like his neighbor (a safe bet), and hears of a home burglary down the street. The police come around and knock on everyone's door (not likely) while investigating. Bert says, "You know, I have a feeling my neighbor Paul Fritz might be the burglar. You said a set of custom golf clubs were stolen, and Paul once told me he really coveted the set the fellow down the street owned." The cops get a warrant, search Fritz's house, find no golf clubs, but do find an ounce of marijuana. Paul is arrested on drug charges, tried, convicted and sent to the slam for six months. Robbins, in a moment of humanity. feels a bit of guilt. So he heads over to the Holy House of St. Forgiveness, confesses to his priest or pastor, says a penance, and receives absolution. Robbins is straight with god. But he's not straight with his neighbor Paul Fritz, who is in the slam. Is Robbins required to do anything to absolve himself of the sin he committed against his neighbor, or is he off the hook morally? -- Named al Qaeda Recruiter of the Year: George W. Bush |
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