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![]() Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: I told you Fitzgerald has squat. http://tinyurl.com/7h9rt Fitzgerald had two years and came up with bupkus - a perjury and obstruction indictment against one person on a case where no crime has been committed. Apparently, it never occurred to Fitzgerald to check with other journalists to see if they had heard of Plame and her association with the CIA. Fitzmas my ass. Oh, not so fast: Just when you thought Fitzgerald was out, he pulls us back in. On Monday, "Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward testified under oath Monday in the CIA leak case that a senior administration official told him about CIA operative Valerie Plame and her position at the agency nearly a month before her identity was disclosed." Woodward "refused to disclose the official's name or provide crucial details about the testimony." Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald sought testimony from Woodward after the unnamed source told Fitzgerald about the previously undisclosed conversation on November 3. Demonstrating a level of cooperation with his own newspaper reminiscent of Judy Miller, Woodward "would not answer any questions, including those not governed by his confidentiality agreement with sources." While the details of Woodward's testimony are murky, one thing is clear: Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation is far from over. Fitzgerald is still pursuing the case very actively and senior administration officials, including Karl Rove, remain in legal jeopardy. WHITE HOUSE RULES DON'T APPLY TO ROVE: On July 11, 2005, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said "those overseeing the investigation expressed a preference to us that we not get into commenting on the investigation while it's ongoing. And that was what they requested of the White House." Apparently, Karl Rove is ignoring those orders. Rove's spokesperson, Mark Corallo, said yesterday that "Rove is not the unnamed official who told Woodward about Plame and that he did not discuss Plame with Woodward." FORMER INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS CALL FOR ROVE'S SECURITY CLEARANCE TO BE REVOKED: Knight Ridder reports that "sixteen former CIA and military intelligence officials yesterday urged President Bush to suspend the security clearance of his top political adviser, Karl Rove." In a letter to the President, the former officials wrote: "We are asking that you immediately suspend the clearances of all White House personnel who spoke to reporters about [Wilson's] affiliation with the CIA. They have mishandled classified information and no longer deserve the level of trust required to have access to this nation's secrets." They also urged the President "to make clear that he wouldn't pardon anyone who is convicted in the outing of Wilson." PRIOR TO DISCLOSURE, WOODWARD WAS AN AGGRESSIVE, ANTI-FITZGERALD COMMENTATOR: This is the first time Woodward has publicly disclosed his role in the leak scandal. (He didn't even tell his own editor until last month.) But that didn't stop him from taking to the airwaves to attack Patrick Fitzgerald and his investigation. He has called Fitzgerald a "junkyard-dog prosecutor." This summer on NPR, Woodward said, "When I think all of the facts come out in this case, it's going to be laughable because the consequences are not that great." SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP: Bob Woodward claims that, in June of 2003, "I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson's wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst." Pincus, however, "said he does not recall Woodward telling him that." Asked about Woodward's recollection in an interview with the Post, Pincus said "Are you kidding? I certainly would have remembered that." |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I told you Fitzgerald has squat. http://tinyurl.com/7h9rt Fitzgerald had two years and came up with bupkus - a perjury and obstruction indictment against one person on a case where no crime has been committed. Apparently, it never occurred to Fitzgerald to check with other journalists to see if they had heard of Plame and her association with the CIA. Fitzmas my ass. Oh, not so fast: While the details of Woodward's testimony are murky, one thing is clear: Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation is far from over. Fitzgerald is still pursuing the case very actively and senior administration officials, including Karl Rove, remain in legal jeopardy. Yes, the radical elements of our society are out to damage this country in any way they can. That is a given. WHITE HOUSE RULES DON'T APPLY TO ROVE FORMER INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS CALL FOR ROVE'S SECURITY CLEARANCE TO BE REVOKED: Knight Ridder reports that "sixteen former CIA and military intelligence officials yesterday urged President Bush to suspend the security clearance of his top political adviser Yes, we understand there have been leftist elements infiltrated into the State Department, CIA, and other government agencies. They hate George Bush and real Americans. PRIOR TO DISCLOSURE, WOODWARD WAS AN AGGRESSIVE, ANTI-FITZGERALD COMMENTATOR Not true. SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP: Bob Woodward claims that, in June of 2003, "I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson's wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst." Pincus, however, "said he does not recall Woodward telling him that." Asked about Woodward's recollection in an interview with the Post, Pincus said "Are you kidding? I certainly would have remembered that." You say his name is Pincus? I don't trust him to tell the truth. -- Skipper |
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![]() "Skipper" wrote in message ... SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP: Bob Woodward claims that, in June of 2003, "I told Walter Pincus, a reporter at The Post, without naming my source, that I understood Wilson's wife worked at the CIA as a WMD analyst." Pincus, however, "said he does not recall Woodward telling him that." Asked about Woodward's recollection in an interview with the Post, Pincus said "Are you kidding? I certainly would have remembered that." You say his name is Pincus? I don't trust him to tell the truth. I told you guys about Kristof and Pincus a couple of weeks ago! I believe Wilson discussed his wife's identity with both of them in early May...about 5 weeks before Libby found out that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA. |
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NOYB wrote:
Skipper wrote: You say his name is Pincus? I don't trust him to tell the truth. I told you guys about Kristof and Pincus a couple of weeks ago! I believe Wilson discussed his wife's identity with both of them in early May...about 5 weeks before Libby found out that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA. You really should forgive those of us that are middle-of-the-road politically. We just don't pay much attention to political commentary in this NG anymore. Raving Looney Leftist zealots like Krause have many of us turning off *all* political posts. Your wise advisory seems to have been the victim here. I'll be paying much better attention to your wise words in the future. -- Skipper |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: I told you Fitzgerald has squat. http://tinyurl.com/7h9rt Fitzgerald had two years and came up with bupkus - a perjury and obstruction indictment against one person on a case where no crime has been committed. Apparently, it never occurred to Fitzgerald to check with other journalists to see if they had heard of Plame and her association with the CIA. Fitzmas my ass. Oh, not so fast: Just when you thought Fitzgerald was out, he pulls us back in. On Monday, "Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward testified under oath Monday in the CIA leak case that a senior administration official told him about CIA operative Valerie Plame and her position at the agency nearly a month before her identity was disclosed." Woodward also says that he discussed Plame's identity with Washington Post journalist Walter Pincus before the Novak article. I don't know if Pincus testified before the grand jury or not...but if he did, then he should be facing a perjury indictment on the heels of the Woodward testimony. Of course, if Pincus lied, then that sort of blows away the Fitgerald theory that Plame's name wasn't widely known among reporters prior to Libby discussing it with Judith Miller. Watch for Pincus's name in the news over the next couple of weeks. |
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NOYB wrote:
I don't know if Pincus testified before the grand jury or not...but if he did, then he should be facing a perjury indictment on the heels of the Woodward testimony. Of course, if Pincus lied, then that sort of blows away the Fitgerald theory that Plame's name wasn't widely known among reporters prior to Libby discussing it with Judith Miller. Watch for Pincus's name in the news over the next couple of weeks. Do you REALLY expect to see Pincus's name in the eastern liberal press? -- Skipper |
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