Gould 0738 wrote:

Unions may have had a place in society at one time, but they are not
counterproductive. All they do is breed nepotism and interfere with free
competition. How is it that someone who moves boxes around on a dock can
make as much as I make with two degrees and state licensure as a
Forensic
Engineer? Granted, cost of living has some factor, but explain to me how
the two jobs are of equal worth. Unskilled labor vs. technical and legal
analysis.

Huh? What happened to

free
competition. ?

If the box movers can convince society that their services are worth more than
Forensic Engineers, more power to them.
Naturally, jealous Forensic Engineers will disagree.

That's just it, if left to the free market to decide, this would not be
the case at all. Only through the artificial inflation of worth as
defined by their representative UNION, does this disparity in job skill
versus wage, exist.


By the way, some of those guys "moving boxes" (longshore work is far more
technical and dangerous than that, btw) probably have more education than many
engineers. Some of them used to have white collar jobs, before "free
competition" prevailed and the guys working for $2/hour US in Russia or India
won the engineering and accounting jobs.

None of the education in your example, directly relates to the job at
hand, or the skill needed to do it.



Where I live, you can't do random drug testing at the fire dept. because the
union won't allow it. Some stoned jackass is going to kill somebody one of
these days as a direct result of union policy.

When that happens, the jackass and his two immediate supervisors should be
fired- or maybe jailed.

But why should we wait until after a tragedy? Drug testing is the norm
for many companies now. Why should union paranoia be allowed to
interfere with health and public safety?

You can't sit around the firehouse and get stoned
without somebody knowing about it. You might find it surprising, but pee tests
are almost TOTALLY defeatable. There's an OTC product called "Clean Pee" that
works almost 100 percent of the time.

You have to shake your head in disbelief at the premise for the
development of that product, and the character of the inventor. Sort of
the same vein as the guy who sells pirate cable TV boxes.

Dave