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On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:14:50 +0000, Dave Hall wrote:

The founding fathers on our constitiution recognized this tendancy,
and that's why they created our system of checks and balances.
That's also why we have things like "term limits". I noticed that
Bill Clinton, of all people, has been making noise about removing or
modifying that limit, as of late. I don't see much good to come from
that.

I've never understood the reasoning behind term limits. If we are
doing our job as an electorate, an ineffective legislature would be
gone. In a democracy, we do get the leadership we deserve. It
seems to me, all term limits do is limit our choices, in the rare
case we actually get an effective and honorable leader.

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And *you've* never used the words right-wing and conservative in the same
sentence?


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Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4 left-wing
liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology"
Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way.

As opposed to right-wing liberals.....

That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be named.
:-)


Well, *YOU* combined the terms "left-wing" and "liberals", numbskull. You
must have the exact same disorder. Or, you managed to buy your way out of
English classes and thus cannot understand redundancy.

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Actually, no. First of all, the two terms suggest different concepts.
Therefore, it would be stupid to combine the two terms.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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And *you've* never used the words right-wing and conservative in the same
sentence?


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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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Great for Berkeley. However, this report was written by 4
left-wing
liberals from Berkeley's Graduate School of Education "Psychology"
Program...which ranks 45th in the nation by the way.

As opposed to right-wing liberals.....

That must be one of the DSM-IV mental disorders that's yet to be
named.
:-)


Well, *YOU* combined the terms "left-wing" and "liberals", numbskull.
You
must have the exact same disorder. Or, you managed to buy your way out
of
English classes and thus cannot understand redundancy.

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Doug Kanter wrote:
Actually, no. First of all, the two terms suggest different concepts.
Therefore, it would be stupid to combine the two terms.



The reality is, the header itself is an oxymoron.
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basskisser wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message rthlink.net...
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Why waste our time reading a biased hate-mongering piece written by ultra
left wing liberals?

Kettle, black?


Must mean it was spot on...

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Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11 then
on the hands of BJ Clinton?



Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11,
and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that
something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the
month of August off.

Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It
happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it.

If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th
month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some
previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who
was captain the year earlier?



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11
then
on the hands of BJ Clinton?



Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11,
and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that
something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the
month of August off.

Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It
happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it.

If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th
month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some
previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who
was captain the year earlier?



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You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault.

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Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50 years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane. Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation" for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy? The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to Americans.



Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the blame for 9-11
then
on the hands of BJ Clinton?



Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11,
and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that
something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the
month of August off.

Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It
happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it.

If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th
month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some
previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who
was captain the year earlier?



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You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault.



Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch. Period.

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No, not right
Look back into your history, economics and look at the trends.





"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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" Tuuk" wrote in message
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Hey,,
Somebody needs to fiscally responsibly run the country or other
countries. I
mean your socialist friends would spend their way into poverty and end
up
with nothing. If you dont like the way the country is running, just
sit
back
in your arm chair, collect your welfare and go play bingo. Leave the
big
things to those who know how to do them better. If not for you, for
the
sake
of the entire nation's survival.

Really? As I recall, eight years under Clinton......fantastic economy.
Reagan? Economy sucked. Bush I? Economy sucked. Bush II? Economy was
driven into the ground in a hell of a hurry.

Fiscal responsibility, indeed!

Actually, if you look at a graph of the stock market and compare it with
parties in office, it's always done significantly better during Democratic
administrations. The Repubs in my PaineWebber office used to hate this
chart. Their stock response to it was "Yeah...well....oh yeah?"

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No, don't be a baffoon, 9-11 was not GWB's fault, and he did do the right
thing. Look at the situation in Canada, Ontario where all the liberals and
NDP who were bought out by the teachers and the strikes that damaged many
students year. A Conservative leader arose and cleaned up years of messes
that the liberals created. There were high percentages of students
graduating high school who couldn't even read or write. These students then
went on to university where international students who also didn't know
proper english crushed them in grade scoring. The universities had to tweak
down their delivery of material (remove some hard stuff) because the Asian
students are near twice as smart as domestic. Let the liberals continue
leading the country and guess who will own the west (they already own
growing percentages of Canada and add more economic and tangible benefit
than any other ethnic group). I for one welcome them and realize that we
need them. But I believe the liberals and especially the far left are
responsible for the west's low grade teachers, poor economy, inability to
compete globally, huge debts.






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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:19:28 -0700, "jps" wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Stolen from the internet:

Feeble retort to many man years of honest work. Figures your hero's
"cure"
for liberals is violence. These days it seems conservatives are finding
violence to be the tool they resort to most frequently.

Hurts their brains to do any of that deep thinking or have any manner of
patience, it's simpler to just kick some ass and figure out what happened
later. Meanwhile, 250 of our kids and countless innocents have paid for
it
with their lives.

F'ing idiots.

No more feeble than the Berkely Bull**** so many of you are so enamored
with.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD