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Basskisser: If you are employed as an engineer as you claim, why the
majority of your
posts to this NG made during normal business hours?????


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It had the whiff of parody. Psychologists dissecting the
conservative
brain?

A press release from UC Berkeley

snip

UC Berkeley, eh? Not worth reading then.

Where did you graduate from? Anyplace with nearly the
distinction of
UC Berkeley? Or DID you graduate?

BSME 1993 Purdue University (I took the EIT...does that make me an
"engineer"?)

Uh, no, it makes you an EIT.

DDS 1999 Indiana University School of Dentistry.


*You* decide if Purdue's Mechanical Engineering program qualifies
as
"near
the distinction" of Berkeley.

Purdue is a fine school. I have a fellow engineer who is a Purdue
grad. He also took grad classes at Berkeley. Why? better classes for
his particular interests. Now, please show how Purdue is a better
school than Berkeley.

Besides that it has more conservatives?

When I attended Purdue, US News ranked the ME program 3rd in the
country. A
survey of deans of the Engineering schools across the country currently
ranks it 7...but corporate recruiters currently ranks it 3rd.



And Indiana U. is not even in the running!

I didn't know you could compare IU's dental program with
Berkeley's...since
Berkeley doesn't have one.

Where did I "compare IU's dental program with Berkeley's"? I compared
IU with Berkeley, period. From your cite of U.S. News, the schools
offering doctorates, in engineering disciplines are as follows, in
order of rankings:
Civil:
U.C. Berkeley
U. Illinois
Georgia Tech
U. Texas
M.I.T.

Mechanical:
M.I.T.
U.C. Berkeley
Stanford
Georgia Tech
U. Mich.

Electrical/Electronics:
M.I.T.
U. Illinois
U.C. Berkeley
U. Mich.

Industrial:
Georgia Tech
U. Mich
Perdue
U. Penn.
Stanford

Chemical:
M.I.T.
Berkeley
U. Minn.
U. Wisconsin
U. Texas

Computer Tech.
M.I.T.
Carnegie-Mellon
Stanford
U.C. Berkeley
U. Illinois

University of Illinois is rated better than U.C. Berkeley in only TWO
fields of engineering. Berkeley is rated better in FOUR fields over
U.I.


Those ratings are according to the Deans of the various engineering schools.
Of course egg-head academics love Berkeley. Afterall, more than 70% of them
voted for Gore.

What's really significant, however, when you're applying for a job in
engineering, is where corporate recruiters rank the schools. Purdue ranked
3rd according to US News.

wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
et...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last
week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as
we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50
years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane.
Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as
a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going
to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's
certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence
error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation"
for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with
whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not
care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he
does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy?
The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming
like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and
cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our
various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to
defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in
this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be
interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the
path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us
are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the
Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to
Americans.



Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the
blame for 9-11
then
on the hands of BJ Clinton?



Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11,
and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that
something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the
month of August off.

Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It
happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it.

If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th
month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some
previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who
was captain the year earlier?



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You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault.

I don't think buffon is strong enough...the sad fact of the matter is that
there is NO WAY in a society such as ours to completely prevent an attack.
We are too free, too open a society to prevent any attacks. The bast we can
do is process intelligence and do our best to REMOVE THE MOST LIKELY
attackers. That is what we are doing today, under GWB. But then again, GWB
can't win with the left. If he talks about a possible attack now, he is
criticized for not being specific enough or for doing so in an effort to try
to make people forget about the economy (even though it is improving)...but
if we were to be attacked again and he had given no warning (and we will be
attacked again, just a matter of time) the left would be all over him for
not warning the public.

The US is not quite a ship is it? For one thing, in the ocean you don't
have anyone coming over the rails trying to kill you, it is very easy to
control access, and all on board are military personnel. Nice analogy
though, Boo Radley.

You dropped out of school when?

You Konservatrashers are absurd; no matter how badly your Bush boy
screws up, you give him a pass.



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
et...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last
week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as
we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50
years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane.
Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as
a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going
to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's
certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence
error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation"
for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with
whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not
care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he
does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy?
The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming
like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and
cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our
various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to
defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in
this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be
interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the
path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us
are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the
Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to
Americans.



Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the
blame for 9-11
then
on the hands of BJ Clinton?



Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11,
and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that
something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the
month of August off.

Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It
happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it.

If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th
month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some
previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who
was captain the year earlier?



--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.


You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault.

I don't think buffon is strong enough...the sad fact of the matter is that
there is NO WAY in a society such as ours to completely prevent an attack.
We are too free, too open a society to prevent any attacks. The bast we can
do is process intelligence and do our best to REMOVE THE MOST LIKELY
attackers. That is what we are doing today, under GWB. But then again, GWB
can't win with the left. If he talks about a possible attack now, he is
criticized for not being specific enough or for doing so in an effort to try
to make people forget about the economy (even though it is improving)...but
if we were to be attacked again and he had given no warning (and we will be
attacked again, just a matter of time) the left would be all over him for
not warning the public.

The US is not quite a ship is it? For one thing, in the ocean you don't
have anyone coming over the rails trying to kill you, it is very easy to
control access, and all on board are military personnel. Nice analogy
though, Boo Radley.

You dropped out of school when?

You Konservatrashers are absurd; no matter how badly your Bush boy
screws up, you give him a pass.


And yet another example of a member of the extreme right wing trio (Krause, DKS and Q)
unable to respond to a valid argument, thus resulting to insults.

Laughable.

Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
et...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
noah wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:41:07 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

snippage-my apologies

It's been fun watching Tom Ridge play "voodoo security" the last
week or
so. Let's see...we'll heighten the security alert to make Americans
uneasy, then we'll tell them we don't need as many sky marshals as
we
have, then we'll tell Americans to be prepared for a skyjacking...

Has there been a more incompetent administration in the last 50
years? I
don't think so.

As you already know, these "Security Alerts" are doubly inane.
Since
9/11, since Afghanistan, since Iraq, *every* day should be seen as
a
"high risk" day. Are we going to count on Al-Jazira to predict our
security risks??? What a bunch of horse****! If Al-Qaida is going
to
hit us, they aren't likely to put it on the radio or TV first.

"Al-Jazira stated today that you should call your mother." HAR!!!

More frightening is the thought that the Bush Administration needs
every diversion that they can get, because the pacification of Iraq
gets more deadly, and more uncontrollable, every day. The absolute
certainty of WMD's has become "murky intelligence". Saddam's
certain
nuclear- sorry, noocular program has become an "intelligence
error".
The only saving grace at this point is some sort of "liberation"
for
the Iraqi people, although loyalty will temporarily lie with
whoever
gives them food, electricity, and water. A hungry man does not
care
about Democracy, he wants to eat, and to feed his family, and he
does
not care who is running the show.

Are we delusional (just a question) in thinking that a society that
has been fuedal for 3,000 years will suddenly embrace Democracy?
The
jubilation at the toppling of Saddam's statue has been replaced by
demonstrations and RPG's.

For those that remember, and for those that don't, it is becoming
like
Vietnam. Daily death counts in a country that we do not, and
cannot,
control, populated by people that we do not understand.

My utmost respect and appreciation goes to the members of our
various
armed forces, who place their lives on the line every day, to
defend
their country. I also pray daily that our leadership is worthy of
such sacrifice.

My respectful condolences go to those who have lost loved ones in
this
war.

noah

I'm afraid it is going to take a significantly larger number of body
bags to force the Bush Administration to come to some sort of sense.
Today's news reports were full of features about ultra-conservative
mullahs from Iran returning to Iraq to take up where they left before
Saddam, to establish a theocracy in Iraq. Now *that* should be
interesting.

You really have to wonder how stupid Bush really is to go down the
path
he is following. He is creating a world in which those who oppose us
are
solidifying in ways never imagined in the "good" old days of the
Kremlin.

We're going to take a big hit from the terrorists, and when we do, it
will be because of Bush. That has to be made crystal clear to
Americans.



Here is a news flash for you....we already did. Shall we place the
blame for 9-11
then
on the hands of BJ Clinton?



Why would you do that? Bush was captain of the ship of state on 9-11,
and it has been documented his administration had all sorts of info that
something big was coming up. So, what did Bush do? The idiot took the
month of August off.

Bush had been in office nine months by the time 9/11 occured. It
happened on his watch. He has to take the blame for it.

If you were captain of a Naval ship for nine months and during your 10th
month in command, something horrendous happened for which you had some
previous hints, who would the Navy hold responsible? You? Or the guy who
was captain the year earlier?



--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.


You are an absolute buffoon if you think 9-11 was GWB's fault.

I don't think buffon is strong enough...the sad fact of the matter is that
there is NO WAY in a society such as ours to completely prevent an attack.
We are too free, too open a society to prevent any attacks. The bast we can
do is process intelligence and do our best to REMOVE THE MOST LIKELY
attackers. That is what we are doing today, under GWB. But then again, GWB
can't win with the left. If he talks about a possible attack now, he is
criticized for not being specific enough or for doing so in an effort to try
to make people forget about the economy (even though it is improving)...but
if we were to be attacked again and he had given no warning (and we will be
attacked again, just a matter of time) the left would be all over him for
not warning the public.

The US is not quite a ship is it? For one thing, in the ocean you don't
have anyone coming over the rails trying to kill you, it is very easy to
control access, and all on board are military personnel. Nice analogy
though, Boo Radley.

You dropped out of school when?

You Konservatrashers are absurd; no matter how badly your Bush boy
screws up, you give him a pass.


And yet another example of a member of the extreme right wing trio (Krause, DKS and Q)
unable to respond to a valid argument, thus resulting to insults.

Laughable.


No valid argument was presented, not by the idiot whose post appears
above and certainly not by you. There are a couple of
Republican/Conservative thinkers who occasionally post here; you are not
among that number.

What's the point in refuting the post of one of you right-wing idiots?

Answer: there's no point at all.

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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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Well, there's a very good explaination for this trend. Usually, it takes
time for the economy to "turn around". Fiscally responsible policies,
put in place by republicans, usually do not fully "kick in" until after
their term is over.

Holy ****in' **** Dave, are you deaf and blind????

What are the Republicans doing presently that's fiscally responsible???

Spending us into oblivion and lowering taxes at the same time???

Conservative??? My ass.

When should we expect a turnaround, about the time Howard Dean takes
office???

Man, I'm flabbergasted!!!

"jps" wrote in message
...

When should we expect a turnaround, about the time Howard Dean takes
office???

"Productivity Soars, Jobless Claims Drop to Six-Month Low" (Yesterday's
Washington Post)

Dean certainly would provide a turnaround...but do we want a turnaround away
from "soaring productivity" and "falling jobless claims"?

I don't think so.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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What's really significant, however, when you're applying for a job in
engineering, is where corporate recruiters rank the schools. Purdue
ranked
3rd according to US News.


See? Now you're making sense. You've explained one source of the rankings,
i.e.: recruiters. Of course, recruiters could simply be happier with certain
schools because they are better at communicating with the recruiters. It may
not reflect the quality of the candidates. But anyway......

Perhaps patients should be involved with the rankings. I've heard an amazing
assortment of reasons why people like or dislike dentists & doctors. Some
reasons may relate to the school where the doctor was educated, so any
correlations would be interesting.

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
Could be. Reasons like you've outlined above are why there are no current
rankings of dental schools...the only ones out ther are almost 10 years
old.
The schools were upset with the poor criteria determining the rankings and
have boycotted providing data ever since.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...


What's really significant, however, when you're applying for a job in
engineering, is where corporate recruiters rank the schools. Purdue
ranked
3rd according to US News.


See? Now you're making sense. You've explained one source of the
rankings,
i.e.: recruiters. Of course, recruiters could simply be happier with
certain
schools because they are better at communicating with the recruiters. It
may
not reflect the quality of the candidates. But anyway......

"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"jps" wrote in message
...

When should we expect a turnaround, about the time Howard Dean takes
office???

"Productivity Soars, Jobless Claims Drop to Six-Month Low" (Yesterday's
Washington Post)

Dean certainly would provide a turnaround...but do we want a turnaround
away
from "soaring productivity" and "falling jobless claims"?

I don't think so.

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

whatever.

i think all that ranking **** is just that. for example, texas a&m supposedly
has a high ranking, and yet i see the largest % of unprepared newhire engineers
from that school than any other. by far.

a decent gpa from an accredited engineering school is plenty of go-by.

chris



Subject: OT The Conservative Brain
From: "Doug Kanter"
Date: 8/8/03 6:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...


What's really significant, however, when you're applying for a job in
engineering, is where corporate recruiters rank the schools. Purdue
ranked
3rd according to US News.


See? Now you're making sense. You've explained one source of the rankings,
i.e.: recruiters. Of course, recruiters could simply be happier with certain
schools because they are better at communicating with the recruiters. It may
not reflect the quality of the candidates. But anyway......