.... NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually
stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people
in/from Greece


NOYB wrote:
I never said that.

Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that way?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
.... NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually
stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people
in/from Greece


NOYB wrote:
I never said that.

Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that
way?

Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having
misspoke.

"NOYB" wrote in message
news

"DSK" wrote in message
...
.... NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are
actually
stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people
in/from Greece


NOYB wrote:
I never said that.

Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that
way?

Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large
audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions,
and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having
misspoke.



Oh no...now we're back to THAT rationalization again? If speaking makes him
nervous, I don't want to find out what happens if he ever has to decide
whether to push the big red button.

NOYB wrote:
Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush.

OK, but that doesn't make it fact.

My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent
thought. Not fact either.

... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?


So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade!

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd give
them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is as
much of an attention span as he could muster.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in
Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.
That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil dependency.
Fortunately, NPR followed Bush's wisdom with some facts presented by oil
experts, who explained how wrong the knucklehead was.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
...


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd
give
them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is
as
much of an attention span as he could muster.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in
Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in
today.
That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil
dependency.

That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls
for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent on
research and development of alternative energy means.

January 31, 2003

Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money
By SCOTT SONNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in
oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half
the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other
alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
...


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd
give
them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is
as
much of an attention span as he could muster.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in
Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in
today.
That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil
dependency.

That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls
for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent
on
research and development of alternative energy means.

January 31, 2003

Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money
By SCOTT SONNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in
oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half
the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other
alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday.




Did the rest of your article mention that 70% of such oil leases have
produced nothing over the past 20 years, and that the ones which *do*
produce are only providing about 3% of our needs?

My point is that your boy needs to come up with a REAL vision, one which
doesn't involve wasting time looking for oil. He has no such vision.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
...


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan
ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee
and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them
he'd
give
them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour
is
as
much of an attention span as he could muster.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he
rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier
than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't
so
scary that he is actually the President.

Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil
in
Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in
today.
That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil
dependency.

That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal
calls
for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent
on
research and development of alternative energy means.

January 31, 2003

Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money
By SCOTT SONNER
ASSOCIATED PRESS

RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion
in
oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with
half
the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other
alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday.




Did the rest of your article mention that 70% of such oil leases have
produced nothing over the past 20 years, and that the ones which *do*
produce are only providing about 3% of our needs?

My point is that your boy needs to come up with a REAL vision, one which
doesn't involve wasting time looking for oil. He has no such vision.


Did any of the last 4 or 5 Presidents? Clinton had 8 years and we're more
reliant on oil today than when he took office.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large
audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions,
and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush.

OK, but that doesn't make it fact.

My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent
thought.

I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people
were very poor speakers.

Of course, it's natural to assume that people who mangle words when speaking
publicly are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Afterall, they don't
exactly sound "smart" when they're butchering their native language.

I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking
one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's
meeting with the other World leaders in person.


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

Yes.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade!

You're welcome.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large
audiences,
are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social
functions,
and
in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush.

OK, but that doesn't make it fact.

My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent
thought.

I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant
people
were very poor speakers.

It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid.


Of course, it's natural to assume that people who mangle words when
speaking
publicly are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Afterall, they don't
exactly sound "smart" when they're butchering their native language.

I had to do speech theraphy when I was young......I was scoring off the
charts on standardized tests, but teachers could barely understand
me.....apprently I was thinking to fast and my mouth could not keep up :-)


I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking
one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's
meeting with the other World leaders in person.


... Go look at what
some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste)
had
to
say about Bush's performance before their committee.

Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and
spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing?

Yes.



So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for
having
misspoke.

If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles
like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than
the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so
scary that he is actually the President.

BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade!

You're welcome.