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OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? "With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left, I will kick your nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a good look at my face. I'm an Oriental." Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987) Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40 years more education than you? You've just provided a perfect example of why I said that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from movies. Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read serious books... I don't think "They Still Call Me Bruce" was offered in written format. I'll be sure to check next time I'm at my local library. You know, despite your absolute ignorance, social ineptitude, bad manners and political incorrectness, I'd still go fishing with you and possibly let you examine my toofs. Even though you really are an asshole. Top that. If that ever happens, please give me advance notice. I'll bring the cinder blocks, chains, and ammo. You guys sure have funny ways of catching fish up north. |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
.... NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people in/from Greece NOYB wrote: I never said that. Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that way? DSK |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
NOYB wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a fashion judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to mean that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready? Please don't drag me into this any further. I can't believe that NOBBY and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people in/from Greece I never said that. The originator of the whole argument (****tard) Nope. I didn't start it. tried to say that the word "grecian" is only an adjective and never a noun...even though every dictionary lists it as both. That came later. Initially, I insisted that Uncurious George's use of the word to refer to contemporary Greeks is wrong. I am right: it is wrong. You STOOOOOOOOPIDLY chose to try to defend it, because you're an unthinking, uncritical, stupid conservative ****bag. Initially, Doug was arguing the same thing. When shown that they were wrong, Doug had twisted the topic of debate to imply that I was arguing that people in modern times call Greek people "Grecians". That's simply not the argument that I was making. ; and furthermore they're stupid enough to spend alot of time trying to prove it. The question is, why are you bothering to argue with them? You need to get out more, Doug! Hehehe. At least we agree on this one. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"****tard" wrote in message ink.net... NOYB wrote: "****tard" wrote in message ink.net... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "****tard" wrote in message news:w5pxc.7005 I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting "Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians "Orientals". Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on the "disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient". Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated as offensive. Always. And "Grecian" is always indicated as an adjective *OR* a *NOUN*. No, it isn't. It certainly is...at least according to the same "on-line-dictionary" litmus test you used for the word "oriental". |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
Ah ha! Then why are YOU following ME around like a lost dog?
NOYB wrote: Huh? You're the one posting in *my* thread. Ahem... *whose* thread??? Please note the subject header, gentlemen. BTW Doug, IMHO this thread is prime evidence that NOBBY is really a rabid Socialist who is actually posting as though he were a Bush fan, in order to make Bush look worse. Didja catch the tacit admission that Bush is in fact a moron and that you dadgum liberals were twisting his words again? DSK |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"****tard" wrote in message ink.net... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "****tard" wrote in message news:w5pxc.7005 I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting "Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians "Orientals". Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on the "disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient". Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated as offensive. Always. Not he http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Oriental or here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental%20person or here http://www.wordiq.com/dictionary/oriental.html In fact, I cannot find anything on the net that refers to the use of the word Oriental as offensive. |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
"DSK" wrote in message ... .... NOBBY and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people in/from Greece NOYB wrote: I never said that. Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that way? Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"P.Fritz" wrote in message
... News sources? Since when do 'news sources" make something credible????? Duh.... 1) Because they sometimes quote real people. 2) Because they're produced by people who are trained to write in a style acceptable to the largest audience, and who adhere to rules of common usage as stated in such books as "The AP Stylebook". 3) Because you can find many examples of words being used in certain ways, and by sheer weight of numbers, they make it clear that when just ONE person uses a word another way, it's either because they're uneducated, or the word is being used that way as an affectation. Like Bush's use of "Grecian". ================================== http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/03/politics/03CODE.html How to Break a Code, Ever Since the Days of the Sphinx By JOHN SCHWARTZ Code makers and code breakers have danced a dance of secrecy and revelation throughout recorded history. Allegations that Ahmad Chalabi, the Iraqi leader and former Bush administration ally, disclosed to an Iranian official that the United States had cracked the code used by its intelligence service is only the most recent example. The ancient Egyptians and Greeks used the simple scytale, a rod with a strip of paper wrapped around it. Codemakers wrote their messages lengthwise along the rod and would then unwrap the paper; the recipient wrapped the paper around another rod of the same diameter to read the message. But anyone with the right rod could read the message, too. ================================== http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/06/bo...06TRAVELL.html Sarrinikolaou explores numerous sides of Athens -- the slums and the rich suburbs, the church and the soccer stadium -- as he considers the uneasy relationship of so many modern Greeks with tradition and the past, interspersing these observations with memories from his own childhood. If today's Athens is ruled by cynicism and opportunism, he reflects, there are ample reasons for it: ''In the span since this nation was founded, its leaders have turned on each other and on the people; they have sided with tyrants, killers and other assorted monsters, while, all along, they have stolen from the public coffers.'' ================================== http://travel2.nytimes.com/mem/trave...56C0A9629C8B63 AROUND THE MEDITERRANEAN; TRUE HOME COOKING, GREEK STYLE By DIANE KOCHILAS IT was a driving trek of heroic proportions up the dirt road from Rethimno, the historic seaside fort city on the northern coast of Crete, to the tiny village of Potamous, on one of those dusty Greek-island dirt roads that are less daunting than they seem, but nonetheless make every passenger but the driver look like they just stepped off a cyclone. On a friend's recommendation, I was heading, with my husband, Vassili Stenos, to this practically unpopulated village about an hour's drive into the mountains to eat. After our exploring and eating around the island, I understand why Greeks consider Crete their culinary cradle, a place where the food traditions of the whole Aegean culminate. Crete's well-defined cuisine is shaped by the seasons and by a well-honed sense of versatility. Although the same simple ingredients are used again and again, local cooks use them to create a whole spectrum of different dishes. At any time of the year, the food is memorable, as long as you are sampling the real thing. =============================== http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A9629C8B 63 Achilles' temperament -- a volatile mixture of vanity, cynicism and sentimentality -- is the key to the movie, and Mr. Pitt attacks the role with the same vigor and agility the character demonstrates in combat. Yes, his accent sounds a bit like Madonna's, perhaps in deference to the mostly English and Australian actors who make up most of the cast, but for once he does not seem embarrassed by his charisma, or driven to subvert it with actorish tics. Achilles' narcissism is like that of a modern celebrity: he fights because it will bring him fame, not to serve the gods or the glory of the Greek nation or, least of all, his corrupt king. His true loyalty is to individuals -- his beloved cousin Patroclus (Garrett Hedlund), his ruthless Myrmidons and his love interest, the captured Trojan priestess Briseis (Rose Byrne) -- rather than to causes. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:01:07 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:04:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a fashion judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to mean that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready? Please point out 10 examples of "Grecian" being used in the last 100 years to describe Greeks. Poetry is not an option, nor are examples where "Grecian" was used as an affectation. And, your president's example is not allowed in the list of 10. The correct examples would be news sources, especially if one or more of them involved actual persons of Greek origin discussing themselves or their culture. Is that the new 'pass-fail' criteria now? If you and/or DSK don't approve, then no one in the group approves? I don't remember subscribing to that philosophy! Read it again, John. This exercise is NOT based on opinions. It is based on simple numbers. NOYB will not find 10 examples of modern usage of the word "Grecian". If somehow he does, we only need to count them, not judge them. Doug, do you realize how much you are emulating b'asskisser? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "DSK" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a fashion judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to mean that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready? Please don't drag me into this any further. I can't believe that NOBBY and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people in/from Greece I never said that. The originator of the whole argument (****tard) tried to say that the word "grecian" is only an adjective and never a noun...even though every dictionary lists it as both. Initially, Doug was arguing the same thing. When shown that they were wrong, Doug had twisted the topic of debate to imply that I was arguing that people in modern times call Greek people "Grecians". That's simply not the argument that I was making. ; and furthermore they're stupid enough to spend alot of time trying to prove it. The question is, why are you bothering to argue with them? You need to get out more, Doug! Hehehe. At least we agree on this one. Ah ha! Then why are YOU following ME around like a lost dog? Huh? You're the one posting in *my* thread. So, you posted without expecting responses??? |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "DSK" wrote in message ... .... NOBBY and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people in/from Greece NOYB wrote: I never said that. Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that way? Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. Oh no...now we're back to THAT rationalization again? If speaking makes him nervous, I don't want to find out what happens if he ever has to decide whether to push the big red button. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
NOYB wrote:
Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. OK, but that doesn't make it fact. My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent thought. Not fact either. ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade! DSK |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? "With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left, I will kick your nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a good look at my face. I'm an Oriental." Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987) Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40 years more education than you? You've just provided a perfect example of why I said that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from movies. Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read serious books... I don't think "They Still Call Me Bruce" was offered in written format. I'll be sure to check next time I'm at my local library. You know, despite your absolute ignorance, social ineptitude, bad manners and political incorrectness, I'd still go fishing with you and possibly let you examine my toofs. Even though you really are an asshole. Top that. If that ever happens, please give me advance notice. I'll bring the cinder blocks, chains, and ammo. You guys sure have funny ways of catching fish up north. I was referring to the possibility of it being a one way trip for you. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"jim--" wrote in message ... "****tard" wrote in message ink.net... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "****tard" wrote in message news:w5pxc.7005 I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting "Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians "Orientals". Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on the "disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient". Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated as offensive. Always. Not he http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Oriental or here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental%20person or here http://www.wordiq.com/dictionary/oriental.html In fact, I cannot find anything on the net that refers to the use of the word Oriental as offensive. I found an online dictionary site that refers to it as offensive...but that matters not. ****tard clearly said "ANY online dictionary"...and you've posted at least three examples contrary to his claim. When I was younger, the term "Oriental" wasn't offensive. Somehow, it's slowly becoming an offensive term. When my grandmother was younger, the term she used for black people (can you still say "black people" nowadays?) was "colored"...and it wasn't offensive. During my entire life, the term has been offensive. It all boils down to this: if a non-white person calls an oriental an oriental, then it's ok. If a white person says it, then it's offensive. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"jim--" wrote in message ... "****tard" wrote in message ink.net... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "****tard" wrote in message news:w5pxc.7005 I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting "Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians "Orientals". Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on the "disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient". Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated as offensive. Always. Not he http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Oriental or here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental%20person or here http://www.wordiq.com/dictionary/oriental.html In fact, I cannot find anything on the net that refers to the use of the word Oriental as offensive. Don't get out much? It's on par with "negro". That might not get you smacked in the mouth if you said it to a black man, but I guarantee you'd be the subject of disparaging remarks. |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
"****turd" wrote in message news:4AHxc.7972 You STOOOOOOOOPIDLY .... Nice touch, the way you extend the word for emphasis. Shows initiative. .....chose to try to defend it, because you're an unthinking, uncritical, stupid conservative ****bag. Don't sugar-coat it! We can take it! Say what you mean! LOL |
OT--why argue over the word "Grecian"?
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "DSK" wrote in message ... .... NOBBY and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people in/from Greece NOYB wrote: I never said that. Oh? Then you agree that George W. Bush Jr. is a moron for using it that way? Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Having spoken with him personally, and then watching how he changed when the cameras and microphones were stuck in his face......I would agree completely. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"John H" wrote in message
... Is that the new 'pass-fail' criteria now? If you and/or DSK don't approve, then no one in the group approves? I don't remember subscribing to that philosophy! Read it again, John. This exercise is NOT based on opinions. It is based on simple numbers. NOYB will not find 10 examples of modern usage of the word "Grecian". If somehow he does, we only need to count them, not judge them. Doug, do you realize how much you are emulating b'asskisser? John H I'm an original, John. I emulate nobody. But, I can't help it if some people follow me around. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"DSK" wrote in message
... ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd give them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is as much of an attention span as he could muster. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today. That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil dependency. Fortunately, NPR followed Bush's wisdom with some facts presented by oil experts, who explained how wrong the knucklehead was. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"DSK" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. OK, but that doesn't make it fact. My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent thought. I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people were very poor speakers. Of course, it's natural to assume that people who mangle words when speaking publicly are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Afterall, they don't exactly sound "smart" when they're butchering their native language. I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's meeting with the other World leaders in person. ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? Yes. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade! You're welcome. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? "With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left, I will kick your nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a good look at my face. I'm an Oriental." Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987) Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40 years more education than you? You've just provided a perfect example of why I said that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from movies. Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read serious books... I don't think "They Still Call Me Bruce" was offered in written format. I'll be sure to check next time I'm at my local library. You know, despite your absolute ignorance, social ineptitude, bad manners and political incorrectness, I'd still go fishing with you and possibly let you examine my toofs. Even though you really are an asshole. Top that. If that ever happens, please give me advance notice. I'll bring the cinder blocks, chains, and ammo. You guys sure have funny ways of catching fish up north. I was referring to the possibility of it being a one way trip for you. No kidding. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "DSK" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. OK, but that doesn't make it fact. My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent thought. I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people were very poor speakers. It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid. Of course, it's natural to assume that people who mangle words when speaking publicly are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Afterall, they don't exactly sound "smart" when they're butchering their native language. I had to do speech theraphy when I was young......I was scoring off the charts on standardized tests, but teachers could barely understand me.....apprently I was thinking to fast and my mouth could not keep up :-) I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's meeting with the other World leaders in person. ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? Yes. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade! You're welcome. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
NOYB wrote:
I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people were very poor speakers. Name two. IMHO you're assuming this as a corollary to a very obvious fact, that some of the best, most polished, and plausible speakers are not as smart as they sound. I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's meeting with the other World leaders in person. You mean, effective at making other world leaders mistrust & dislike him? BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade! You're welcome. If you were a poker player you'd be dropping your cards on the floor. DSK |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
P.Fritz wrote:
It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid. Umm, no. GWB's problem is that he uses words wrong, spews a word salad of sentence fragments, mangles syntax, and cannot express any concept clearly no matter how many words he uses. DSK |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
jim-- wrote:
"****tard" wrote in message ink.net... NOYB wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... "****tard" wrote in message news:w5pxc.7005 I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting "Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians "Orientals". Asians *are* orientals you idiot. Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you meet and see sort of reaction you get? Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on the "disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient". Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated as offensive. Always. Not he http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Oriental Oh, yes they are! The Webster definition "there" is from a 1913 dictionary, which is now badly out of date. The other one there explicitly says, "for people of South and East Asian ancestry the term `Asian' is preferred to `Oriental'" You stupid ****. or here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/oriental%20person Oh, yes it does! If you click on "Oriental" in the list of synonyms, it says *exactly* what the one above does: "for people of South and East Asian ancestry the term `Asian' is preferred to `Oriental'". or here http://www.wordiq.com/dictionary/oriental.html Oh, yes it does! The same again. ALLLLLLL your citations say "for people of South and East Asian ancestry the term `Asian' is preferred to `Oriental'". In fact, I cannot find anything on the net that refers to the use of the word Oriental as offensive. Yes, you can: you already have. Here are a couple mo 3 often capitalized, sometimes offensive : ASIAN http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...iental&x=0&y=0 n. often Oriental Often Offensive. An Asian. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oriental taboo term: a highly offensive term for somebody from eastern Asia Encarta online dictionary |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
DSK wrote:
NOYB wrote: I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people were very poor speakers. Name two. IMHO you're assuming this as a corollary to a very obvious fact, that some of the best, most polished, and plausible speakers are not as smart as they sound. What? Tony Blair isn't as sharp as he sounds? |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net... I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's meeting with the other World leaders in person. How do you know he's effective under those circumstances? Been there with him? |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
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... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "DSK" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Some people who do not speak well in front of TV cameras or large audiences, are terrific speakers in smaller discussion groups, at social functions, and in one-on-one dialogue. I believe this describes Bush. OK, but that doesn't make it fact. My own belief is that incoherent speech or writing indicates incoherent thought. I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people were very poor speakers. It is the same mentality that assumes stutters are stupid. Stuttering (now referred to as "fluency" by speech pathologists) is an entirely different symptom, per my ex wife, who's been an SLP for about 17 years. It's as connected with Bush's situation as fish are to bicycles. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "DSK" wrote in message ... ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd give them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is as much of an attention span as he could muster. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today. That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil dependency. That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent on research and development of alternative energy means. January 31, 2003 Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money By SCOTT SONNER ASSOCIATED PRESS RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "DSK" wrote in message ... ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd give them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is as much of an attention span as he could muster. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today. That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil dependency. That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent on research and development of alternative energy means. January 31, 2003 Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money By SCOTT SONNER ASSOCIATED PRESS RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday. Did the rest of your article mention that 70% of such oil leases have produced nothing over the past 20 years, and that the ones which *do* produce are only providing about 3% of our needs? My point is that your boy needs to come up with a REAL vision, one which doesn't involve wasting time looking for oil. He has no such vision. |
OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... If that ever happens, please give me advance notice. I'll bring the cinder blocks, chains, and ammo. You're getting more and more like basskisser all the time. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"DSK" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: I don't buy that. History has shown that some of the most brilliant people were very poor speakers. Name two. 1) James Madison 2) Harry Truman 3) William H. Taft 4) Thomas Jefferson IMHO you're assuming this as a corollary to a very obvious fact, that some of the best, most polished, and plausible speakers are not as smart as they sound. Sometimes that's true, and sometimes not. I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's meeting with the other World leaders in person. You mean, effective at making other world leaders mistrust & dislike him? He seems to have done a pretty good job schmoozing several World leaders recently...as evidenced by the unanimous UN resolution which Bush was seeking that was passed yesterday. BTW thanks for letting me make this point. Good work, comrade! You're welcome. If you were a poker player you'd be dropping your cards on the floor. Only intentionally...and only a few of them...so that you'd *think* you were getting a good look at my entire hand. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... I think the only way to know is to spend time with a person talking one-on-one on a personal level. That's why Bush is so effective when he's meeting with the other World leaders in person. How do you know he's effective under those circumstances? Been there with him? I can only go on what others who have met him say about him...and that includes many folks who *used* to criticize him. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... ...now referred to as "fluency" by speech pathologists... Are you f-ing kidding me? So a "stuttering oriental" is now a "fluent asian"? |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "DSK" wrote in message ... ... Go look at what some of the 9/11 panel members (including the partisan ben-Veniste) had to say about Bush's performance before their committee. Uh huh. And do you think that GWB went in front of that committee and spoke his mind, with no prep and no rehearsing? There was grumbling among committee members because Bush told them he'd give them just an hour of his time. I translated that to mean that an hour is as much of an attention span as he could muster. So to answer your question: no I don't think Bush is a moron for having misspoke. If it was just misusing a word now and then, I'd agree. But he rambles like a moron and misuses words constantly. He's actually funnier than the people who mimic him... or at least, he would be if it weren't so scary that he is actually the President. Last week, he spewed some nonsense about how if we'd drilled for oil in Alaska in the early to mid 1990s, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today. That was the best he could come up with as a solution to our oil dependency. That's NPR for you. They conveniently left out where Bush's proposal calls for half of the money derived from oil lease sales in Alaska to be spent on research and development of alternative energy means. January 31, 2003 Bush ties alternative energy research to Arctic drilling money By SCOTT SONNER ASSOCIATED PRESS RENO, Nev. (AP) - President Bush's new budget anticipates $2.4 billion in oil lease sales in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by 2005, with half the money to be spent to research solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative energy, an assistant secretary said Friday. Did the rest of your article mention that 70% of such oil leases have produced nothing over the past 20 years, and that the ones which *do* produce are only providing about 3% of our needs? My point is that your boy needs to come up with a REAL vision, one which doesn't involve wasting time looking for oil. He has no such vision. Did any of the last 4 or 5 Presidents? Clinton had 8 years and we're more reliant on oil today than when he took office. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... ...now referred to as "fluency" by speech pathologists... Are you f-ing kidding me? So a "stuttering oriental" is now a "fluent asian"? Stutterers are now referred to as people with fluency problems. But, you know that, being a doctor & everything, and being well-read on how sometimes dental and medical problems can be intermingled with speech difficulties. Yu reed a lott. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... ...now referred to as "fluency" by speech pathologists... Are you f-ing kidding me? So a "stuttering oriental" is now a "fluent asian"? More PC bull****. |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
NOYB wrote:
1) James Madison 2) Harry Truman 3) William H. Taft 4) Thomas Jefferson The only one on this list who was "brilliant" is Jefferson. And I've never read that he was a poor speaker, but rather the contrary. Truman was definitely NOT a poor speaker, else why would his "whistle stop" campaign tour produce such good results? Taft? You gotta be kidding. I have no doubt he was an intelligent man, but "one of the most brilliant"??? And what is the evidence that he was a notably poor speaker? Madison could be considered brilliant if he weren't standing in the same room with either Jefferson or Franklin (or for that matter, Hamilton, or for that matter, Burr). But again, whence comes any intimation that he was a poor speaker? Sorry, Nobby, no cigar. Not even close. DSK |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:03:38 +0000, NOYB wrote:
Did any of the last 4 or 5 Presidents? Clinton had 8 years and we're more reliant on oil today than when he took office. If we had followed Carter's initiatives we might now be energy independent. Instead, over the past 25 years we have burned up @25% of the worlds total oil reserves. http://www.faultline.org/news/2001/1...ependence.html |
OT-- Is GWB really a moron or does he just play one on TV?
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:03:38 +0000, NOYB wrote: Did any of the last 4 or 5 Presidents? Clinton had 8 years and we're more reliant on oil today than when he took office. If we had followed Carter's initiatives we might now be energy independent. Of course we would. Afterall, bankrupt countires don't need oil and gas. |
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