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Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:33 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in the
White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to imply
that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a noun,
is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his Bible
studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about archeologists
digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to describe
inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up word, but
it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's going to a
somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.



Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:36 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


No, dimwit. A week ago, Harry said that the age group of 18-29 year olds

is
more likely to vote for Kerry than Bush. Now, Gallup shows that 53% of

that
same age group doesn't know who we fought in WWII...which makes them a
pretty "uniformed" group as a whole. Since this "uniformed" group is more
likely to vote for Kerry, then it's safe to say that "uninformed" voters

are
more likely to vote for the Democrat.


Of course, some of that age group will vote Republican...which is why the
number of "uniformed" is *only* 53%. If the age group were *all*

Democrats,
you'd have a lot larger number of uninformed...and the 53% figure would be

a
lot higher.



After Bush was appointed, one of the news channels did an informal survey of
college students, actually stopping them on 3-4 campuses and asking who they
voted for and why. Some ridiculously high percentage of women said they
voted for Bush because he had cute ears or some such nonsense.

Try not to assign much meaning to that age group.



Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:37 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...


And the part where you claimed that "it's ONLY an adjective; never a

noun"?
Harry corrected you there. Are you in agreement with him or not? If not,
then you really *ARE* the dumbest poster to stain the archives of

rec.boats.





Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:39 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

Correct? You said it's "an adjective, not a noun, period". Remember

that,
****tard?


"If [Bush] used 'Grecian' to describe Greeks, it was
yet another gaffe on his part."

That statement is correct.


And the part where you claimed that "it's ONLY an adjective; never a

noun"?
Harry corrected you there. Are you in agreement with him or not? If not,
then you really *ARE* the dumbest poster to stain the archives of

rec.boats.



Grecian has not been in common usage as a noun for the past several hundred
years. An educated person would know that. A person trying to APPEAR
educated would not. A "word of the day" calendar can be a dangerous thing in
the wrong hands.



Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:40 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

Doug Kanter wrote:




Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed
the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.

"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.


Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.


You keep believing that...and I'll keep believing you're the dumbest

poster
to hit the pages of rec.boats.

Sheesh. "ONLY an adjective; never a noun". Now, you add the caveat "in
modern usage". Keep squirming, turd. Soon you'll just be a pile of
poop...instead of a twisting mass of fecal matter.




OK, NOYB, maybe he said it. That part's over. But, you still argue that
"Grecian" is in common usage NOWADAYS as a noun. Prove it.



jim-- June 8th 04 08:40 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...


"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954


......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.


"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"
are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.


Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"

than
your
"famous" poem by Keats.


It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.


I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were

you
a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to refer
to the ancient people of Rome.



Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:44 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"jim--" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...


"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954


......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.


"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"
are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"

than
your
"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.


I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were

you
a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer
to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their culture?



NOYB June 8th 04 08:48 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:23:00 +0000, NOYB wrote:

Not one of those so-called "scandals" has amounted to a hill of
beans...and none will.


Maybe, I suppose Bush is just being cautious in consulting an attorney.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/02/bush.leak/


If Bush leaked it, he probably wouldn't be cognizant of how he did it. He
probably thinks CIA is that news channel.


I seriously doubt that Bush talks to Bob Novak on a regular basis...



NOYB June 8th 04 08:50 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in the
White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to

imply
that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a

noun,
is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his Bible
studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about archeologists
digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to

describe
inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up word,

but
it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's going to

a
somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.


A somnambulist? You better check your dictionary. Then you'll get my
one-sentence response.





NOYB June 8th 04 08:52 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


No, dimwit. A week ago, Harry said that the age group of 18-29 year

olds
is
more likely to vote for Kerry than Bush. Now, Gallup shows that 53% of

that
same age group doesn't know who we fought in WWII...which makes them a
pretty "uniformed" group as a whole. Since this "uniformed" group is

more
likely to vote for Kerry, then it's safe to say that "uninformed" voters

are
more likely to vote for the Democrat.


Of course, some of that age group will vote Republican...which is why

the
number of "uniformed" is *only* 53%. If the age group were *all*

Democrats,
you'd have a lot larger number of uninformed...and the 53% figure would

be
a
lot higher.



After Bush was appointed, one of the news channels did an informal survey

of
college students, actually stopping them on 3-4 campuses and asking who

they
voted for and why. Some ridiculously high percentage of women said they
voted for Bush because he had cute ears or some such nonsense.

Try not to assign much meaning to that age group.


That's precisely my point...and the same point I was making a week or so ago
when Harry pointed out that Kerry leads among that age group.




NOYB June 8th 04 08:55 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

Doug Kanter wrote:



Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed
the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.

"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.

Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.


You keep believing that...and I'll keep believing you're the dumbest

poster
to hit the pages of rec.boats.

Sheesh. "ONLY an adjective; never a noun". Now, you add the caveat "in
modern usage". Keep squirming, turd. Soon you'll just be a pile of
poop...instead of a twisting mass of fecal matter.




OK, NOYB, maybe he said it. That part's over. But, you still argue that
"Grecian" is in common usage NOWADAYS as a noun. Prove it.


No. If he said it, then Bush misspoke. However, he did not make the word
up.




Harry Krause June 8th 04 08:55 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
thlink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"****tard" wrote in message
arthlink.net...


Doug Kanter wrote:


Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed

the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.

"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.

Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.

You keep believing that...and I'll keep believing you're the dumbest


poster

to hit the pages of rec.boats.

Sheesh. "ONLY an adjective; never a noun". Now, you add the caveat "in
modern usage". Keep squirming, turd. Soon you'll just be a pile of
poop...instead of a twisting mass of fecal matter.




OK, NOYB, maybe he said it. That part's over. But, you still argue that
"Grecian" is in common usage NOWADAYS as a noun. Prove it.



No. If he said it, then Bush misspoke. However, he did not make the word
up.




Bush, no doubt, has heard of Grecian Formula 44, and probably thinks it
is a cough drop.

Doug Kanter June 8th 04 08:55 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...


Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in

the
White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to

imply
that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a

noun,
is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his

Bible
studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about

archeologists
digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to

describe
inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up word,

but
it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's going

to
a
somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.


A somnambulist? You better check your dictionary. Then you'll get my
one-sentence response.


No thank, NOYB. In the 1800s, a person who attempted to practice hypnotism
(usually at carnivals, alongside the snake oil vendors) was called a
somnambulist because their victims usually fell asleep.

Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education than
you do. Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....



Fucktard June 8th 04 08:58 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
Harry Krause wrote:

****tard wrote:

NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...


Doug Kanter wrote:




Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND



missed

the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.



"Greek" may also be an adjective: the Greek language,
a Greek restaurant, Greek culture. "Grecian", in
modern usage by people who know better, is *only* an
adjective, never a noun.


Horse****.



Nope. In modern usage, "grecian" is never a noun.




You keep believing that




I shall, because it's true. You should accept it, too, but because
you're a troglodyte, you won't. Your loss, furry one.



As someone who "wasted" six years of his life getting a "classical"
university education (B.A. and M.A.), I can state that I have not
encountered the word "Grecian" in modern usage as a noun. Once again,
if Bush used it as a noun, it was out of ignorance.


You are correct.


"Grecian" as a noun was in use by some until about the middle of the
19th century, but usage faded significantly after that.


"faded"? How about "disappeared"?


No one other than Dubya Dumb refers to modern-day Greeks as Grecians,


You're probably wrong on that, but it's safe to say no
EDUCATED and aware person refers to modern-day Greeks
as "Grecians".

and he only does that out of ignornace. Remember that while an undergrad
at Yale, Bush majored in what served as that college's fraternity
life...drinking, snorting coke, chasing skirts and generally avoiding
academia.




NOYB June 8th 04 08:59 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"jim--" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.


"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and
"Grecians"
are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"

than
your
"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were
you
a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer
to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?


Ask The Grammarian


If you have a question about grammar or the mechanics of writing
please email


Greek v Grecian

Why is it Greek food, but a Grecian urn? When does one use Greek as an
adjective, and when does one use Grecian?

Carole Love


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Carole,

Sorry this reply took so long -- I've been deployed with my unit and
it's taking some time to get things caught up now that I'm back.

Greek and Grecian are completely interchangable as adjectives. To be
sure, I checked several dictionaries and most of my extensive grammar
resources. I even did an online search. The two words are completely
interchangable as adjectives, right down to calling a person either Greek or
Grecian.

As nouns Greek and Grecian may not be completely interchangable. Both
Greek and Grecian can reference a person. For example, you could say, "the
Grecian sat in a dark corner of the restaraunt, keeping an eye on the
partners' dealings." None of my sources, however, showed Grecian as a
reference to the language, but I personally wouldn't exclude it as a
possibility.

Hope that helps.


Godspeed,

Dave




Fucktard June 8th 04 09:00 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"****tard" wrote in message
thlink.net...


NOYB wrote:



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...



"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954



......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and


"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.


Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous" than


your

"famous" poem by Keats.


It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.



I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were you
a Monarch Notes kid?


I am not a believer, so I don't read any bible.


The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop!


"Translations" of the King James? Heh heh heh...

If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?


Derivatively wrong.

Or, they would be, except most of the newer versions
are NOT derived from the King James version.


Fucktard June 8th 04 09:05 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
...



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...



"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954



......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.


Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray. You seem quite a

bit


dumber than the rest...except, perhaps for basskisser. Perhaps you


two

are



related?

"Grecian" is another name for a "greek". Go get a dictionary. Maybe

one


of



the smarter liberals could read it to you.





Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed


the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.




Well, "Grecian" may be used as a noun


Uh-oh...your mentor doesn't agree with you, Doug. See what happens when


you

follow the stupid likes of ****tard and basskisser?




...but no one really uses it as one. And Bush's use of it was out of
ignorance, not out of knowledge of language or nuance of usage.



Bush frequently quotes from the bible...sometimes to a fault. The King
James version of the Bible uses the term "Grecian" to describe people of
Greece, so it's logical to conclude that Bush picked up the word "Grecian"
from the bible.

Nevertheless, Kanter and ****tard have tried to argue that it's not a noun.
That's just dumb.


You stupid, STUPID fat ****. Read it and weep.

From the CIA World Factbook, Greece:

Nationality:

noun: Greek(s)
adjective: Greek

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...gr.html#People


God ****ING damn it, you stupid possum-****ing fat
****, you are TRYING to be stupid, and by golly, you
are succeeding admirably!

NO ONE with even a pretense of being educated, let
alone actually being educated, refers to the Greeks as
"Grecians" - NO ****ING ONE, you imbecile.

Just admit it, ****wit: you are wrong, and you're too
GODDAMNED ****ING PIGHEADED to acknowledge your error
and move on.


Fucktard June 8th 04 09:07 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in


the

White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to


imply

that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a


noun,

is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his


Bible

studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about


archeologists

digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to


describe

inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up word,


but

it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's going


to

a

somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.


A somnambulist? You better check your dictionary. Then you'll get my
one-sentence response.



No thank, NOYB. In the 1800s, a person who attempted to practice hypnotism
(usually at carnivals, alongside the snake oil vendors) was called a
somnambulist because their victims usually fell asleep.

Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education than
you do.


Which you would have even if you were only 19, as that
****wit NOYB is clearly a NEGATIVELY educated goof.

Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....


The ****wit's friends don't quit smoking; too stupid.


Fucktard June 8th 04 09:10 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
jim-- wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


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NOYB wrote:



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and


"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"


than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.


I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were


you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?





NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to refer
to the ancient people of Rome.


WRONGO, jimbo. "grecian" is not a noun in current
usage AT ALL.

You probably refer to modern inhabitants of Israel as
"Israelites", DON'T you, ****wit?

God, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.


jim-- June 8th 04 09:12 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.


"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and
"Grecians"
are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more

"famous"
than
your
"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were
you
a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King

James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of

that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient
Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer
to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?


I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?



Fucktard June 8th 04 09:13 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

"jim--" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


"****tard" wrote in message
arthlink.net...


NOYB wrote:



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954



......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more "famous"


than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or were


you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King James
version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of that
translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of


ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to


refer

to the ancient people of Rome.




Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their culture?


Why do you suppose the CIA World Factbook *also* gives
*ONLY* 'Greek' as the noun and adjective used to refer
to the people of Greece?

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...gr.html#People


Answer: because that's what they're called. They are
not called "Grecians" by anyone who knows how to tie
his own shoes.

I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting
"Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians
"Orientals". It's just wrong, and there's no
meaningful argument about it.


NOYB June 8th 04 09:14 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Oh, puh-lease....STOP making these lame excuses for the stunatz in

the
White house, eh? You're smarter than he is, and that's not much of

a
compliment!

Bush has no language abilities. If he used Grecian, it was out of
ignorance. Period.


I'm no longer arguing that Bush used the term properly. However, to

imply
that it's a "made up" word, or that it's only an adjective and not a

noun,
is wrong.

I still stand my reasoning that the word was in his head from his

Bible
studies...and not from "a Discovery Channel program about

archeologists
digging up Grecian urns". In the Bible, it is used as a noun to

describe
inhabitants of Greece.





1) I don't have the patience to find out who said it was a made-up

word,
but
it wasn't me.

2) Please write a one-sentence response to a friend who says he's

going
to
a
somnambulist for help with quitting smoking.


A somnambulist? You better check your dictionary. Then you'll get my
one-sentence response.


No thank, NOYB. In the 1800s, a person who attempted to practice hypnotism
(usually at carnivals, alongside the snake oil vendors) was called a
somnambulist because their victims usually fell asleep.


Ohhhhhh. I was wondering why you kept asking me about sleepwalkers.


Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education than
you do.


I'm 33. Are you 73?

Of course, you could be talking "formal education". If you count pre-k and
kindergarten as "formal education", I have 22 years of "formal education".
Assuming you started pre-k at age 4, you'd need to be 66 years old to have
40 more years of education.


Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....



I'd ask him why he doesn't try Zyban and Nicoderm instead.



Fucktard June 8th 04 09:16 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
jim-- wrote:

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"jim--" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


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NOYB wrote:



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message


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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more


"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or


were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King


James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of


that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their


culture?



I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?


You are (barely) smart enough to understand that when
****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people". Please...you are, aren't you?


NOYB June 8th 04 09:16 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
...



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954



......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.


Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray. You seem quite

a

bit


dumber than the rest...except, perhaps for basskisser. Perhaps you


two

are



related?

"Grecian" is another name for a "greek". Go get a dictionary.

Maybe

one


of



the smarter liberals could read it to you.





Hmm. Another dumb **** who was left back 3 times in 9th grade, AND

missed


the GEDs. Grecian is an adjective. Greek is a noun.




Well, "Grecian" may be used as a noun


Uh-oh...your mentor doesn't agree with you, Doug. See what happens

when

you

follow the stupid likes of ****tard and basskisser?




...but no one really uses it as one. And Bush's use of it was out of
ignorance, not out of knowledge of language or nuance of usage.



Bush frequently quotes from the bible...sometimes to a fault. The King
James version of the Bible uses the term "Grecian" to describe people of
Greece, so it's logical to conclude that Bush picked up the word

"Grecian"
from the bible.

Nevertheless, Kanter and ****tard have tried to argue that it's not a

noun.
That's just dumb.


You stupid, STUPID fat ****. Read it and weep.

From the CIA World Factbook,


Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.




Doug Kanter June 8th 04 09:17 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...


Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education

than
you do.


I'm 33. Are you 73?

Of course, you could be talking "formal education". If you count pre-k

and
kindergarten as "formal education", I have 22 years of "formal education".
Assuming you started pre-k at age 4, you'd need to be 66 years old to have
40 more years of education.


You know exactly what I mean.


Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....



I'd ask him why he doesn't try Zyban and Nicoderm instead.


Nice squirm!



Doug Kanter June 8th 04 09:19 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...


Why do you suppose the CIA World Factbook *also* gives
*ONLY* 'Greek' as the noun and adjective used to refer
to the people of Greece?

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...gr.html#People


Another reason: State Department people are sometimes called upon to visit
countries which aren't their normal stomping grounds. They're expected to
not look or sound like morons. The factbook's a quick way to brush up on the
basics. Of course, this isn't necessary for the president.



Fucktard June 8th 04 09:20 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:



You stupid, STUPID fat ****. Read it and weep.

From the CIA World Factbook,



Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.


Except when it provides for President Fratboy's
preconceived notion to invade the country that
humiliated his daddy, right?

Say it, ****wit: the contemporary inhabitants of
Greece are Greeks, NEVER "Grecians". Say it, you
stupid ****.


Harry Krause June 8th 04 09:24 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
jim-- wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"jim--" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message


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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more


"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or


were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King


James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of


that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their


culture?



I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.



This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.


DSK June 8th 04 09:29 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:
As nouns Greek and Grecian may not be completely interchangable.


Hello! Hello! Anybody there?

... Both
Greek and Grecian can reference a person.


No they can't.

People who live in the country of Greece are Greek. An object _might_ be
referred to as Grecian, but the most recent reference I can think of is
Keat's 'Ode To A Grecian Urn' and that was written in 1819 and used the
word 'Grecian' as a poetic device.

... For example, you could say, "the
Grecian sat in a dark corner of the restaraunt, keeping an eye on the
partners' dealings."


You could say that if you are either 1- a moron or 2- a really desperate
Bush lackey trying hard to cover up option #1.

DSK


DSK June 8th 04 09:32 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:
Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.


Yeah, the heck with those guys... they tried to tell Buch & Cheney that
Iraq probably did not have WMDs... friggin' dummies, what do *they* know...

DSK


jim-- June 8th 04 09:38 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jim-- wrote:

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"jim--" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


"****tard" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more


"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King


James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of


that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no

debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term

to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?



I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still

used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.



This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.


Not my problem. Next time pick a better college.



Fucktard June 8th 04 09:43 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

jim-- wrote:




Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.


Address the point, dummy: Bush was NOT referencing the
"ancient" Greek people when he STUPIDLY said "Grecians".




This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.



Not my problem. Next time pick a better college.


Tell us the name of a university or college in which
students are taught to refer to contemporary
inhabitants of Greece as "Grecians".


P.Fritz June 8th 04 10:06 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

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"****tard" wrote in message

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......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more

"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King

James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of

that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except

for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used

to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern

(?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no

debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term

to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?


I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was

previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still

used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.



This must be something new, Dennis, because when I studied the classics
in college, no one used the word "Grecian" as a noun in reference to the
people of historic Greece. No one. Greco-Roman. Grecian urn. Grecian
culture. People of Greece. Greeks.


Not my problem. Next time pick a better college.


Of course you are assuming he went to college. There is no more resaon to
believe he studied classics in college than to believe he owns a lobsta boat
and has a doctor doctor wife :-)






John H June 8th 04 10:18 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:57:46 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"****tard" wrote in message news:0Z5xc.5954

......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.


Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray. You seem quite a bit
dumber than the rest...except, perhaps for basskisser. Perhaps you two are
related?


No one deserves that kind of comparison, for anything!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

NOYB June 8th 04 10:24 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...


Please try and remember that I've got about 40 years' more education

than
you do.


I'm 33. Are you 73?

Of course, you could be talking "formal education". If you count pre-k

and
kindergarten as "formal education", I have 22 years of "formal

education".
Assuming you started pre-k at age 4, you'd need to be 66 years old to

have
40 more years of education.


You know exactly what I mean.



No. I really don't.


Now, back to my question about your friend who's quitting
smoking....



I'd ask him why he doesn't try Zyban and Nicoderm instead.


Nice squirm!


Ok. I'd ask him why he's seeing a sleepwalker.



NOYB June 8th 04 10:26 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
NOYB wrote:



You stupid, STUPID fat ****. Read it and weep.

From the CIA World Factbook,



Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.


Except when it provides for President Fratboy's
preconceived notion to invade the country that
humiliated his daddy, right?


The key word in my sentence was "anymore". Didn't you notice Tenet's and
the other high level resignations recently?



Say it, ****wit: the contemporary inhabitants of
Greece are Greeks, NEVER "Grecians". Say it, you
stupid ****.


OK. "It, you stupid ****".



NOYB June 8th 04 10:27 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Nobody gives any credence to what the CIA has to say anymore.


Yeah, the heck with those guys... they tried to tell Buch & Cheney that
Iraq probably did not have WMDs... friggin' dummies, what do *they*

know...

No they didn't. I believe the exact words Tenet used when telling Bush that
Saddam had WMD were "it's a slam dunk".




NOYB June 8th 04 10:29 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...
jim-- wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"jim--" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"****tard" wrote in message
arthlink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"****tard" wrote in message
.earthlink.net...


NOYB wrote:



"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...



"****tard" wrote in message

news:0Z5xc.5954


......the modern
inhabitants of Greece are referred to, in English as
Greeks. ONLY as Greeks. Period. Full stop. The end.

'Grecian' is ONLY an adjective, never a noun.



Ahhhhh. Another dumb**** liberal to enter the fray.

Nope. Not a liberal at all.



"Grecian" is another name for a "greek".

No, it isn't. "grecian" is an adjective, ONLY; it is
not a noun, and it NEVER refers to persons, only
things, e.g. "Ode to a Grecian Urn", a famous poem by
John Keats,


Putz. Read the King James version of the Bible. "Greeks" and

"Grecians"

are used interchangeably...and they're both NOUNS.

Douchebag. The English used in the King James version
of the bible is archaic, and the translations from
Hebrew and Greek are considered by modern bible
scholars to be terrible. That's why several other
versions of the bible have been developed.


BTW--the King James version of the Bible is a little more


"famous"

than

your

"famous" poem by Keats.

It's also archaic, and to the best of my knowledge no
longer used by any major Christian denomination. There
are some lowbrow stupid fundamentalists who still use
it, because they like the wrong translations.

I suppose you favored the Cliff Notes over the real thing, eh? Or

were

you

a Monarch Notes kid?

The more current bible translations are translations of the King


James

version you nincompoop! If the King James version was a "wrong
translation", then what does that make each of the derivations of


that

translation?




NOYB, don't waste your time with the moron. Everyone (well except for
****head) knows it is a noun and is used to refer to the people of

ancient

Greece (or Greek Jews as used in the Bible), just as Romans is used to

refer

to the ancient people of Rome.



Once again, you've missed the point. We're talking about a modern (?),
living (maybe) person, your president, using the word. There's no

debate
over whether the word was commonly used 2000 years ago.

Here's a crazy thought: Why do you suppose GREEKS don't use that term

to
describe themselves, their native country, or anything about their

culture?



I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still

used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?


You are (barely) smart enough to understand that when
****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people". Please...you are, aren't you?


What is a "****tard"? Does that mean your mom ****ed a retarded boy that
was carrying out her groceries...and POOF...out popped you...****tard!









Fucktard June 8th 04 10:32 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 
NOYB wrote:
"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

jim-- wrote:



I have you killfiled so I have to reply through NOYB:

Actually Doug you missed the point (not surprising). It was previously
asserted that the word was not a noun. It certainly is and is still used
today when referencing the ancient Greek people.

You are smart enough to understand that, aren't you?


You are (barely) smart enough to understand that when
****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people". Please...you are, aren't you?



What is a


Forget about that, dummy; it's not important. We just
want to know if you are smart enough to understand that
when ****wit Bush said "Grecians", he was talking about
contemporary inhabitants of Greece, NOT "ancient Greek
people", and THEREFORE used a wrong word.




NOYB June 8th 04 10:35 PM

OT--why the 18-29 year olds support Kerry
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
As nouns Greek and Grecian may not be completely interchangable.


Hello! Hello! Anybody there?


Oh, so you agree with this part of my link.

... Both
Greek and Grecian can reference a person.


No they can't.



....but not this part. Isn't that convenient.


People who live in the country of Greece are Greek. An object _might_ be
referred to as Grecian, but the most recent reference I can think of is
Keat's 'Ode To A Grecian Urn' and that was written in 1819 and used the
word 'Grecian' as a poetic device.

... For example, you could say, "the
Grecian sat in a dark corner of the restaraunt, keeping an eye on the
partners' dealings."


You could say that if you are either 1- a moron or 2- a really desperate
Bush lackey trying hard to cover up option #1.


I didn't write it...and I have no idea if the person who wrote it is a
moron or a Bush lackey. But, I do know that people write to the author for
his expert opinion. How many letters do you get for *your* expert opinion?





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