NOYB,
It can only be considered a lie, if the person knew the information was
incorrect and continued to repeat the information. I read the same info
that Gould did, and when he made the statement I tried to find out if the
change in manufacturing jobs had actually been implemented. I could not
find any reference to the change being rejected by the administration.
Joe, did a great job of going to the source and asking the question, but the
fact that Gould did not, does not make him a liar.


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate
data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

No apology was sought.

I wanted to bronze your admission of error, (a rare item), not the
apology.

If you care to apologize for accusing me of being a liar, I'd accept
that.


You lied, thus the label of "liar". Of course, once caught in the lie,
you
simply stated you were "misinformed"...which is a second lie.

Liar.







You might have noticed that when our perspectives differed in the boat
speed
thread I never stooped to insult. It really is possible to take
different
sides
without getting all grammar school about it. Yes, it's increasingly rare
but
diplomacy is an art we would all do well to cultivate.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:wgixc.15168$HG.6000@attbi_s53...
NOYB,
It can only be considered a lie, if the person knew the information was
incorrect and continued to repeat the information. I read the same info
that Gould did, and when he made the statement I tried to find out if the
change in manufacturing jobs had actually been implemented. I could not
find any reference to the change being rejected by the administration.
Joe, did a great job of going to the source and asking the question, but
the
fact that Gould did not, does not make him a liar.


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Then I retract my apology for initially providing you with inaccurate
data
on the boat speed/economy thread.

No apology was sought.

I wanted to bronze your admission of error, (a rare item), not the
apology.

If you care to apologize for accusing me of being a liar, I'd accept
that.


You lied, thus the label of "liar". Of course, once caught in the lie,
you
simply stated you were "misinformed"...which is a second lie.

Liar.







You might have noticed that when our perspectives differed in the boat
speed
thread I never stooped to insult. It really is possible to take
different
sides
without getting all grammar school about it. Yes, it's increasingly
rare
but
diplomacy is an art we would all do well to cultivate.


John,
Gould stated "mini-wage burger flippers were reclassified as "manufacturing"
workers".

When I pointed out he was wrong, he made at least a dozen or so posts
defending his original claim.

He was being intentionally deceptive (ie--purposely spinning the facts to
suit his intended goal of discrediting a positive economic report) In my
World, spinning is lying. With all of the spin coming out of Washington and
the media, you've just become immune to that fact.