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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:26:17 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Plame was not covert the time and had not been covert for more than five
years.


I wouldn't limit myself to the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, it
may or may not apply, as I'm sure Fitzgerald isn't. Potential laws broken
include the Espionage Act, remember Morison?, perjury, obstruction of
justice, and conspiracy.


Are you on the grand jury investigating this alledged crime?

I believe that it will be Plame's husband the honorable acting Ambassador
that leaked her previous status to the media. Miller is protecting
someone
other than Rove or Libby.

Then there is the Frist investigation . . .


Frist is an idiot and the Republicans in the Senate will do better
without
him.




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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:37:44 -0700, Curtis CCR wrote:


Agreed. I am still asking, "Indictments for what?"


Potentially the Espionage Act, perjury, obstruction of justice, and
conspiracy, that's just of the top of a non-lawyer's head. I'm sure a
prosecutor of Fitzgerald's caliber can think of a few more. This
investigation has been going on for close to two years, that doesn't
happen unless charges are expected. Oh, unless your name is Kenneth
Starr.


Or, you can't find any evidence that anyone did anything illegal.



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Are you going to see Earle's movie?
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News Flash...

Delay has been charged with criminal conspiracy!!!!!!

Jim



Delay said the DA was out to get republicans.
A democratic radio host said that 11 of the 17 politicians prosecuted by the
DA were democrats.
Which one of these factoids is the truth?


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Delay said the DA was out to get republicans.

And that's not entirely out of the question; this is the era of the
political full-court press. All partisan attack, all the time. It's
devisive and destructive. If this type of campaigning had been invented
back in the days of Sen. Joe McCarthy, the U.S. would have become a
fascist dictatorship decades ago.

Since the Republicans started it and are the most vigorous and least
fact-driven in their practice of this, it's tempting to say 'let them
reap what they sow.' But frankly I'd rather see the whole mess slow to a
halt.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Earle is a yahoo and if the Democrats are pinning their hopes on this
particular indictment for "getting" Delay, they are ****ing upwind. He
has prosecuted Democrats for doing the same thing using a different
statute under a misdemeanor concept.

Then there is the movie of his "investigation".

Its not going anywhere.


When the Bush-Cheney Administration has the Supreme Court in it's
pocket, was there any doubt?


Please note that I'm not a Delay fan by any means - I think the guy is
creepy and a double dealer.

They just aren't going to get him this go 'round.


They may not get him at all.

Years ago, a DeLay fund-raiser made a telemarketing call to my home. He
wanted to harangue me about how evil the Clintons are, and how I needed
to send money to fight them (they got my name & phone # from the NRA
membership rolls). I listened politiely while asking enough questions to
pin down the origin of this call, then hung up on him (one of the few
times I've been rude over the phone) and called Sen. Helms office. Delay
got his ears pinned back, but he didn't learn.

He is creepy, a crook, and the last person on this Earth who should have
any political office or authority over free American citizens. His
natural calling would be to work as a prison trusty.

Doug King



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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:56:13 -0700, Curtis CCR wrote:


Then I am thinking "conspiracy to commit what?" I think some charges may
fall out of this. But I am expecting that the names on the indictments
won't be the ones everyone is expecting (or wishing for).


This investigation seems professional without the leaks of past
investigations, so it is difficult to say what, if any, charges will be
filed. However, just speculating here, if the Plame leak was coordinated
that could be a conspiracy. There have also been *rumors* that Fitzgerald
may have expanded the investigation into the whole "yellowcake" fiasco.
If that is the case, this could be quite large. Regardless, we should
soon know. The Grand Jury term expires next month, and Miller has finally
agreed to testify.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...gion-apnewyork

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072602069.html


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Its not going anywhere.

Please note that I'm not a Delay fan by any means - I think the guy is
creepy and a double dealer.

They just aren't going to get him this go 'round.


Maybe, maybe not, but then there is Round 2.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...p_world _news
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"DSK" wrote in message
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Delay said the DA was out to get republicans.


And that's not entirely out of the question; this is the era of the
political full-court press. All partisan attack, all the time. It's
devisive and destructive. If this type of campaigning had been invented
back in the days of Sen. Joe McCarthy, the U.S. would have become a
fascist dictatorship decades ago.

Since the Republicans started it and are the most vigorous and least
fact-driven in their practice of this, it's tempting to say 'let them reap
what they sow.' But frankly I'd rather see the whole mess slow to a halt.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Earle is a yahoo and if the Democrats are pinning their hopes on this
particular indictment for "getting" Delay, they are ****ing upwind. He
has prosecuted Democrats for doing the same thing using a different
statute under a misdemeanor concept.

Then there is the movie of his "investigation".

Its not going anywhere.


When the Bush-Cheney Administration has the Supreme Court in it's pocket,
was there any doubt?


Please note that I'm not a Delay fan by any means - I think the guy is
creepy and a double dealer.

They just aren't going to get him this go 'round.


They may not get him at all.

Years ago, a DeLay fund-raiser made a telemarketing call to my home. He
wanted to harangue me about how evil the Clintons are, and how I needed to
send money to fight them (they got my name & phone # from the NRA
membership rolls). I listened politiely while asking enough questions to
pin down the origin of this call, then hung up on him (one of the few
times I've been rude over the phone) and called Sen. Helms office. Delay
got his ears pinned back, but he didn't learn.

He is creepy, a crook, and the last person on this Earth who should have
any political office or authority over free American citizens. His natural
calling would be to work as a prison trusty.

Doug King


The people of his congressional district have re-elected him 10 times! Your
opinion really doesn't matter.


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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:56:13 -0700, Curtis CCR wrote:


Then I am thinking "conspiracy to commit what?" I think some charges may
fall out of this. But I am expecting that the names on the indictments
won't be the ones everyone is expecting (or wishing for).


This investigation seems professional without the leaks of past
investigations, so it is difficult to say what, if any, charges will be
filed. However, just speculating here, if the Plame leak was coordinated
that could be a conspiracy. There have also been *rumors* that Fitzgerald
may have expanded the investigation into the whole "yellowcake" fiasco.
If that is the case, this could be quite large. Regardless, we should
soon know. The Grand Jury term expires next month, and Miller has finally
agreed to testify.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...gion-apnewyork

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072602069.html


So, the good acting ambassador Joe Wilson could go to jail for defrauding
the government, swilling whiskey when he was supposed to be working. And,
for "outing" his wife a former, very former, CIA operative.

Why has the good acting ambassador been so quite lately? Something is amiss!


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The people of his congressional district have re-elected him 10 times!
Your opinion really doesn't matter.


It's doubtful there will be an eleventh.

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