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Chuckie is spewing the typical brain dead liebral class warfare
crap.
The vast majority of people do not stay in one income bracket
throughout
their lives.

Sounds a bit like "let them eat cake."

No, it sounds like let's teach them to bake their own cake so that they
can
feed themselves.

You are right about that. The middle class is going the way of the
passenger pigeon. Yes, yes, a few of the former middle class are moving
into the ranks of the privileged-(something to cheer about in the right
wing) but most of the people leaving the middle class are worse off now
than they were a decade ago.

Then we need to do more to teach them how to work hard and earn more
money
so that they can move up the ladder rather than sliding down the ladder
under the weight of good intentions.


Sounds very noble, but that flies in the face of a long-proven reality.
The privileged class has a specific interest in maintaining or even
increasing the number of poor and desperate people in this country
while at the same time decreasing any public infrastructure or funding
to relieve some of the hardships suffered by the poor. It's called
labor force. We want lotsof people who will work as cheaply as
possible. In fact, when our own poor people ask for a minimum wage job
the privileged class declares minimum wage "too much" to pay and seeks
out a foreign labor force even more poor, more desperate, and more
willing to work for a handful of rice a day.

Spoken like a true liberal/progressive.

Why are you so negative? It appears that you never have a positive thing to
say!

It went on in the last great flood down south in the 20's, and it's
still going on today. During the flood where VP Hoover served as the
government emergency coordinator, there were several thousand people
stranded on a levee. Times being as they were in the 20's, the
government naturally evacuated all the white people first. When the
government began evacuating the poor black folks on the levee, local
business leaders pressured the administration to stop. They said that
if the black people were even temporarily relocated, they would have a
hard time rebuilding their agricultural labor force. In the end, an
encampment of poor folks rose on that levee that was something like a
mile and a half from end to end. The government hauled food out to
them, but refused to take any of them off the levee. IIRC, it took a
couple of weeks for the water to recede to where the poor people could
get off on their own.

Remind me again about who the dominate political force was in the south
after the Civil War up until the Republicans passed Johnson's Civil Rights
bill? Who were the prominant Democrats that were against the Civil Rights
bill? Gore, Fullbright, Byrd...the list goes on and on and on.

Under your proposed social solution, perhpas we should have simply
dropped a handful of lumber and a drawing of a raft onto the
levee/island? The industrious
folks could have built a raft and escaped- oh, but wait, no lumber and
no drawing of a raft for these folks- it would have worked against the
interests of
the privileged class for any of these people to relocate out of the
area. The economic value of somebody willing to or forced to work for
only the tiniest fraction of the value produced in a work day is very
high, and such an "asset" shouldn't be squandered.

My propsed solution is to teach people how to do for themselves rather than
relying upon someone else to gie them a handout. You and your ilk want to
keep them dependent upon the government.

Times have changed, but human nature hasn't.

The Republican partyhas changed quite dramatically in the last 80 years
while the Democratic party

It's tough to demand that somebody pull themselves up by the bootstraps
when they don't even have any boots, let alone a pair with straps.

Stop whining and start doing. If you aren't going to help out and solve the
problem then get out of the way of people that do want to help solve the
problem.