HarryKrause wrote:
Don White wrote:

NOYB wrote:

Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see
combat? Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.

Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.



A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two
weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.



It would be a real service for someone to make those recruiters put
their promises on paper and have the 'contract' duly notarized.
It might stop some of the outrageous lies and deception.
(wonder how many 'recruits' they would sign up then)

Their promises are put on paper. It's called an Enlistment Contract.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

Read it carefully.


Another crock of crap from our military apologist.


Why aren't you out on your custom made 36 foot lobster boat Krause?

Heck, even when we had our modest 32 footer we would spend every summer
weekend (and vacation days) on it cruising around.

But you seem to post here 24 x 7.

Go figure.

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:59:32 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:42:09 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:33:44 GMT, Don White wrote:

HarryKrause wrote:
Don White wrote:

NOYB wrote:

Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see
combat? Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.

Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.


A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.



It would be a real service for someone to make those recruiters put
their promises on paper and have the 'contract' duly notarized.
It might stop some of the outrageous lies and deception.
(wonder how many 'recruits' they would sign up then)
Their promises are put on paper. It's called an Enlistment Contract.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

Read it carefully.

Another crock of crap from our military apologist.

Let's see...who was President in August 1998?

Oh my goodness! We owe this gem of a contract to Mr. Clinton!


We're talking about recruiters who tell their prey lies, and
officers in the field who tell their troops lies.

Tell that to Don. He's the one who brought up the enlistment contract. Or, did
you miss that?

*You* are talking about the 'lies'. I have no expertise in that.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:55:18 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
NOYB wrote:
Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see combat?
Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.


Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.



A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.

Thunderous applause...

Any soldier has the ability write his congressman about alleged
improprieties.
Very few members of Congress would let such abuses go by.

In boot camp we had recruits that said they were going to write to their
congressman and complain about how they were being treated.

Then once out in the fleet at the mess halls all of the messmen on the line
were bitching and complaing about being cooks. They were all talking about
their lawyers were going to get them out. These guys went in on open
contracts and were place in MOS's that needed men of their "capabilities."

If the troops are bitching then you have something to worry about!

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:02:09 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:



HarryKrause wrote:
Don White wrote:

NOYB wrote:

Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see
combat? Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.

Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.



A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two
weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.



It would be a real service for someone to make those recruiters put
their promises on paper and have the 'contract' duly notarized.
It might stop some of the outrageous lies and deception.
(wonder how many 'recruits' they would sign up then)

Their promises are put on paper. It's called an Enlistment Contract.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

Read it carefully.


Another crock of crap from our military apologist.


Why aren't you out on your custom made 36 foot lobster boat Krause?

Heck, even when we had our modest 32 footer we would spend every summer
weekend (and vacation days) on it cruising around.

But you seem to post here 24 x 7.

Go figure.


Hold down the fort, Jim. I've got to go watch the Tour de France. Today they
went through the Col de la Madelaine, a pass I rode through on my motorcycle
with a friend from Holland. Gotta see if they are any faster!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:02:09 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:



HarryKrause wrote:
Don White wrote:

NOYB wrote:

Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see
combat? Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're
least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.

Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing
them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent
in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.



A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two
weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.



It would be a real service for someone to make those recruiters put
their promises on paper and have the 'contract' duly notarized.
It might stop some of the outrageous lies and deception.
(wonder how many 'recruits' they would sign up then)

Their promises are put on paper. It's called an Enlistment Contract.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

Read it carefully.


Another crock of crap from our military apologist.


Why aren't you out on your custom made 36 foot lobster boat Krause?

Heck, even when we had our modest 32 footer we would spend every summer
weekend (and vacation days) on it cruising around.

But you seem to post here 24 x 7.

Go figure.


Hold down the fort, Jim. I've got to go watch the Tour de France. Today
they
went through the Col de la Madelaine, a pass I rode through on my
motorcycle
with a friend from Holland. Gotta see if they are any faster!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

I was talking about Krause, not you John.

Heck, Krause said he had 20 or so union brothers on his boat last week.
Must be a biggun.

Yo-Bro.......Yo-Whore....Yo-Hoe

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:07:24 -0400, "Bert Robbins" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:55:18 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
NOYB wrote:
Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see combat?
Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.


Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.



A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.

Thunderous applause...

Any soldier has the ability write his congressman about alleged
improprieties.
Very few members of Congress would let such abuses go by.

In boot camp we had recruits that said they were going to write to their
congressman and complain about how they were being treated.

Then once out in the fleet at the mess halls all of the messmen on the line
were bitching and complaing about being cooks. They were all talking about
their lawyers were going to get them out. These guys went in on open
contracts and were place in MOS's that needed men of their "capabilities."

If the troops are bitching then you have something to worry about!


I know you meant to say, "aren't" bitching!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:14:09 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:55:18 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
NOYB wrote:
Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see combat?
Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.

Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.


A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.
Thunderous applause...

Any soldier has the ability write his congressman about alleged
improprieties.
Very few members of Congress would let such abuses go by.

In boot camp we had recruits that said they were going to write to their
congressman and complain about how they were being treated.

Then once out in the fleet at the mess halls all of the messmen on the line
were bitching and complaing about being cooks. They were all talking about
their lawyers were going to get them out. These guys went in on open
contracts and were place in MOS's that needed men of their "capabilities."

If the troops are bitching then you have something to worry about!




Your most dangerous time in the stateside marines was...what...the gang
showers?

Your most dangerous time in the military was...

Oh, that's right. You couldn't hack boot camp.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:14:09 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:55:18 -0400, HarryKrause

wrote:

Don White wrote:
NOYB wrote:
Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see
combat?
Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.

Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them
when dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.


A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two
weeks
in Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.
Thunderous applause...

Any soldier has the ability write his congressman about alleged
improprieties.
Very few members of Congress would let such abuses go by.

In boot camp we had recruits that said they were going to write to their
congressman and complain about how they were being treated.

Then once out in the fleet at the mess halls all of the messmen on the
line
were bitching and complaing about being cooks. They were all talking
about
their lawyers were going to get them out. These guys went in on open
contracts and were place in MOS's that needed men of their
"capabilities."

If the troops are bitching then you have something to worry about!




Your most dangerous time in the stateside marines was...what...the gang
showers?

Your most dangerous time in the military was...

Oh, that's right. You couldn't hack boot camp.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

I remember him boasting on a Veterans Day several years back about still
being able to squeeze into his *uniform*.

When pressed on the issue (as someone found a post of his previously stating
he never served in the military) he eventually admitted it was his donut or
ice cream *uniform* from college.

The guy is really a POS.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:08:06 +0000, NOYB wrote:

Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see combat?
Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?


True, but some of these young men and women are on their third tour of
Iraq. It seems to me, we are asking too much of too few.

The great majority of Marines are re-enlisting on their own accord.

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
NOYB wrote:
Why would you join the military if there was no chance to see combat?
Isn't it a soldier's role to kill the enemy?

If you want to join a branch of the armed forces where you're least
likely to see combat, join the Coast Guard.


Maybe these young potential recruits need an agent representing them when
dealing with the US Military....something like a player agent in
professional sports.....or better yet a union.



A soldiers' union; I'll bring it up at the AFL-CIO meeting in two weeks in
Chicago. I get to go for a day or maybe two, and hope to return
unbloodied.

Union workers might be Democrats, but they're patriots first. When you're
up there, try and start bad-mouthing the "average soldier" (and how stupid
you think he is), and see how far you get. I doubt you'll return
"unbloodied".