( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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You're stuck on the subject of what Arabs have done to the rest of
the
world

Not "done to", but "done for" the rest of the World. What positive
contributions have they made?

If *this* country had been sliced up and rearranged into meaningless
arrangements by foreign powers and a number of wars, you'd find that
OUR
contributions would be hindered somewhat. Survival would become more
important.


So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years. Isn't that what I
said
last week? And what Harry said 2 1/2 years ago...before he changed his
mind?

Your liberalism is showing here. If someone's on welfare, it must be
the
fault of the wealthy. Right? If a a guy's head is severed from his body
in
front of a video camera, it's the victim's fault. If the Arabs haven't
made
one positive contribution to society in the last 100 years, it's the
fault
of the West.

It's the new dem's campaign strategy......"Blame it on America"

Oh. Another genius who was chokin' his chicken in history class. Here's a
yes or no question for you. Do you believe that on the whole, the countries
of the Middle East have been left pretty much alone for the past 100 years,
and were able to pursue a natural course of development? Yes, or no.

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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Reverse that, and get your silly ass to the
library.

I don't go to the library ever since the Patriot Act was passed. Too
many
gov't people looking over your shoulder. ;-)



That explains the intensity of your ignorance.

If you really believed what I just said in jest, then it's not *my*
ignorance (or lack of it) that we should be analyzing.



I didn't consider it "jest". I considered it a lame excuse for not having
the slightest clue about how the last 100 years of world history have
affected the Middle East. Rather than replying correctly and saying "You're
right - I am pretty loose in that area of learning", you've chosen to BE the
jester.

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So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive contributions to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years.

They're out the

For example,
Chemistry. (Nobel prize winner in 1999 was an Arab)


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( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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You're stuck on the subject of what Arabs have done to the rest of
the
world

Not "done to", but "done for" the rest of the World. What positive
contributions have they made?

If *this* country had been sliced up and rearranged into meaningless
arrangements by foreign powers and a number of wars, you'd find that
OUR
contributions would be hindered somewhat. Survival would become more
important.


So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years. Isn't that what I
said
last week? And what Harry said 2 1/2 years ago...before he changed his
mind?

I said nothing of the kind. What I said is true. If a country or region is
ravaged by war, or politically manipulated in ways which were not designed
to benefit the region, it has SOME EFFECT on the ability to function in
what
you or I would consider "normal". But, you deny that the Middle East has
been touched by us, Europe or Russia over the past 100 years

Oh, give it up. There have been many races, cultures, and nations which
have been tinkered with by outside influence over the years. Yet, most of
those have managed to make significant contributions to society despite the
"oppression". Quit making excuses for the Arabs. They've contributed zilch
over the last century.

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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You're stuck on the subject of what Arabs have done to the rest
of
the
world

Not "done to", but "done for" the rest of the World. What
positive
contributions have they made?

If *this* country had been sliced up and rearranged into meaningless
arrangements by foreign powers and a number of wars, you'd find that
OUR
contributions would be hindered somewhat. Survival would become more
important.


So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive
contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years. Isn't that what I
said
last week? And what Harry said 2 1/2 years ago...before he changed his
mind?

Your liberalism is showing here. If someone's on welfare, it must be
the
fault of the wealthy. Right? If a a guy's head is severed from his
body
in
front of a video camera, it's the victim's fault. If the Arabs
haven't
made
one positive contribution to society in the last 100 years, it's the
fault
of the West.

It's the new dem's campaign strategy......"Blame it on America"

Oh. Another genius who was chokin' his chicken in history class. Here's a
yes or no question for you. Do you believe that on the whole, the
countries
of the Middle East have been left pretty much alone for the past 100
years,
and were able to pursue a natural course of development? Yes, or no.


No.

Now a question for you:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in the
last 100 years? (This isn't the time to lay blame...just list the
contributions).

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NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any 'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?

What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

DSK

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in

Reverse that, and get your silly ass to the
library.

I don't go to the library ever since the Patriot Act was passed.
Too
many
gov't people looking over your shoulder. ;-)



That explains the intensity of your ignorance.

If you really believed what I just said in jest, then it's not *my*
ignorance (or lack of it) that we should be analyzing.



I didn't consider it "jest". I considered it a lame excuse for not having
the slightest clue about how the last 100 years of world history have
affected the Middle East. Rather than replying correctly and saying
"You're
right - I am pretty loose in that area of learning", you've chosen to BE
the
jester.

Fine, I'm the jester. But you haven't a clue as to what I do or don't know
about the history of the Middle East in the last 100 years. As for your
self-righteous assertion that you're more well-informed on the topic because
of *where* you obtain your info...well, it's almost laughable. NPR and your
local library don't teach you anything that isn't available elsewhere if you
look hard enough.

Now that you've changed the subject to: a) Arabs lack of achievment is
because of the West, and b) NOYB's knowledge of the Middle East in the last
100 years, do you care to answer the question?

What positive contributions have the Arab world made to society in the last
100 years?

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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So what you're saying is that you can't list any positive contributions
to
society from the Arab world in the last 100 years.

They're out the

For example,
Chemistry. (Nobel prize winner in 1999 was an Arab)


That's a bit of stretch, don't you think, Chuck? The guy had been an
instructer at Caltech for 23 years prior to the award. He was more
"American" than Arab. Excluding Arab-Americans, Arab-Europeans, etc., what
positive contributions have Arabs living in Arab nations made to society in
the last 100 years?

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

What contributions have the Arabs made in the last 100 years?
2003 Nobel Peace Prize winner SHIRIN EBADI for her efforts for democracy and
human rights
1994 Nobel Peace Prize winners YASSER ARAFAT , Chairman of the Executive
Committee of the PLO, President of the Palestinian National Authority.
SHIMON PERES , Foreign Minister of Israel and YITZHAK RABIN , Prime Minister
of Israel, for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East.
1978 Nobel Peace Prize winners MOHAMED ANWAR AL-SADAT , President of the
Arab Republic of Egypt and MENACHEM BEGIN , Prime Minister of Israel, for
jointly negotiating peace between Egypt and Israel.

Granted this is only a start... but 3 nobel peace prizes in the last 26
years is a darned good start.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Now a question for you:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in the
last 100 years? (This isn't the time to lay blame...just list the
contributions).

( OT ) Where have you gone, Rosy Scenario?
 

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
What positive contributions have the Arab nations made to society in the
last 100 years?

WTF??

Are you still on the "let's launch a holy crusade to exterminate the
Arabs" kick?

Let's assume, for a moment, that Arabs have not made any 'contributions
to society' in the past 100 years. Does that justify a war against any
or all Arab and/or Muslim nations?


My comment was in reponse to the statement that all Arab nations hate us.
Essentially, I'm saying "who cares"...they're irrelevant in the whole scheme
of things...unless of course they attack us. Only *then* do they become
relevant...and then I *do* say that their lack of contributions to society
should be considered when we're deciding just how many kiloton nuke we
should drop on 'em.


What positive contributions have *you* made, NOBBY?

Many. Let me use an anology. Were I to be arrested, for instance, the judge
would look at my long list of positive contributions to my community...and
his punishment would be doled out accordingly. If I were a jobless vagrant
who had many run-ins with the law and never contributed anything useful to
society, I'd have a lot harsher punishment. It happens all the time in our
justice system. I'm saying "let's apply the same standard to nations".