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John Gaquin wrote:
Anyone who thinks there has not been connection and coordination between
Iraq and al Qaida is a naive fool.

Why? Because Rush Limbaugh and the Bush/Cheney campaign ads have worked
very very hard to convince you there is a connection?

Guess what... they fooled you. There isn't one. If Bush had proof, he'd
be using more of that big fat $200 million advertising budget to make
sure that every man, woman, and child on planet Earth knew all about it.
But he can't, because it doesn't exist.

So far, there are only 3 things that indicate a connection:

1- a meeting between an al-Queda member and an Iraqi intelligence
officer in Czechoslovakia, which most analysts now believe never happened.

2- Al-Zarqawi, likely murderer of Nick Berg, living & operating in
Iraq... but wait, it's been proven that he spent most of his time before
the invasion in the Kurdish zone... our friends, the Kurds, who hated
Saddam and were fighting against him

3- garish posters of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers hanging on
several walls, glorifying the terrorists.

That's it. That's all of it.

Now who is a "niave fool"... the eprson who looks at the facts and says,
"Gosh, not much there" or the person who blows a lot of gas based on
hype & hints (and let's not forget the outright lies)?

DSK

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DSK wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:
Anyone who thinks there has not been connection and coordination between
Iraq and al Qaida is a naive fool.

Why? Because Rush Limbaugh and the Bush/Cheney campaign ads have worked
very very hard to convince you there is a connection?

Guess what... they fooled you. There isn't one. If Bush had proof, he'd
be using more of that big fat $200 million advertising budget to make
sure that every man, woman, and child on planet Earth knew all about it.
But he can't, because it doesn't exist.

So far, there are only 3 things that indicate a connection:

1- a meeting between an al-Queda member and an Iraqi intelligence
officer in Czechoslovakia, which most analysts now believe never happened.

2- Al-Zarqawi, likely murderer of Nick Berg, living & operating in
Iraq... but wait, it's been proven that he spent most of his time before
the invasion in the Kurdish zone... our friends, the Kurds, who hated
Saddam and were fighting against him

3- garish posters of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers hanging on
several walls, glorifying the terrorists.

That's it. That's all of it.

Now who is a "niave fool"... the eprson who looks at the facts and says,
"Gosh, not much there" or the person who blows a lot of gas based on
hype & hints (and let's not forget the outright lies)?

DSK

DSK
I'm so jealous.
1. I didn't say it first.
2. I couldn't have said it better.
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"DSK" wrote in message news:wcUoc.11671

So far, there are only 3 things that indicate a connection:

God, the innocence! You know, there isn't always a notarized document.

I've lived and worked there. I've had to deal with them. I stand by my
original statement.

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Still haven't figured out how to write your name. Sad.

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John Gaquin wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message news:wcUoc.11671

So far, there are only 3 things that indicate a connection:


God, the innocence! You know, there isn't always a notarized document.

I've lived and worked there. I've had to deal with them.

You're probably one of the reasons why so many Moslems hate us...you're
the Ugly American.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
You're probably one of the reasons why so many Moslems hate us...you're
the Ugly American.

Harry it sounds like you are the extremist and definitely a Ugly American,
aren't you the one who said the following:

"Right. If you are talking about the so-called Palestinian terror against
Israel, the only way to stop it is to put the head of *every* so-called
Palestinian terrorist, beginning with Arafat, on a pike.
But it is true if you want Osama, the most *efficient* way to get him is
via the MOSSAD. Afghanistan isn't Panama, and Osama isn't Noriega.

We don't have operatives like the MOSSAD has."
(Harry Krause - 11/1/2001)

At one time you were endorsing terrorist behavior and torture, now you want
to blame Bush personally because of some stupid and ineffective methods of
interrogation. At least they never put anyone's head on pike.

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On Fri, 14 May 2004 13:00:50 GMT, "John Smith"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
You're probably one of the reasons why so many Moslems hate us...you're
the Ugly American.

Harry it sounds like you are the extremist and definitely a Ugly American,
aren't you the one who said the following:

"Right. If you are talking about the so-called Palestinian terror against
Israel, the only way to stop it is to put the head of *every* so-called
Palestinian terrorist, beginning with Arafat, on a pike.
But it is true if you want Osama, the most *efficient* way to get him is
via the MOSSAD. Afghanistan isn't Panama, and Osama isn't Noriega.

We don't have operatives like the MOSSAD has."
(Harry Krause - 11/1/2001)

At one time you were endorsing terrorist behavior and torture, now you want
to blame Bush personally because of some stupid and ineffective methods of
interrogation. At least they never put anyone's head on pike.



If Gore were president right now, and this stuff were going on, you'd
hear nothing but justification for these acts. That is, for the one
and only day that this sort of news story would have gotten air time
in an obviously biased and agenda driven news media.

If anyone still doubts that this story is nothing more than attempts
to further smear the president, I'd suggest that you are more than
just a little naive.....


Dave

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Well I guess we have located the naive fool

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in573801.shtml
President Bush and other administration officials have recently acknowledged
there are no links between Saddam and Sept. 11.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...030131-23.html

Q One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between
Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the
11th?

THE PRESIDENT: I can't make that claim.





"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

wrote in message news:E%foc.2662

You right winged jack ass, September 11, 2001 was done by al-Qaida...
What
does that have to do with an unjust war in Iraq?

Not a freaking thing.

Anyone who thinks there has not been connection and coordination between
Iraq and al Qaida is a naive fool.

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I agree, "we" didn't. Dick Cheney started it so that his clique of
military contractors, headed by Halliburton, would reap enormous profits
(Halliburton profits up something like 600% last year, check the news).


RANT ON!

DO you really believe this?

That a senior official of ANY administration would jeopardize their
position and livelyhood by starting a war that has no preordained
outcome.

That by going into it, they would anatagonize about 50% of the
population and cause the LeftMedia to attack him/her at every
opportunity

Cheny is a rich man, he had the wherewithall, perserverence and
intelligence to succeed in the upper echelons of big business.
This is bad? I thought that was the American dream!!!

If you had 10M, 50M, 100M, would you volunteer to serve your country
or just retire to the islands and hope the jihad doesn't come there?.

He does not need more profits from Hal and neither do most of the
other principles and I don't want to here about the mistreated
workers, they are making a very good wage.

That does not mean that they won't take those profits. Would you give
back legally earned money?

Believing that this is about the admin trying to enrich their coffers
is really out there.

Don't you know, the Republicans have all the money and tax breaks, so
they don't really need it.

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wrote in message
ink.net...
Well I guess we have located the naive fool

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in573801.shtml
President Bush and other administration officials have recently
acknowledged
there are no links between Saddam and Sept. 11.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...030131-23.html

Q One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between
Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the
11th?

THE PRESIDENT: I can't make that claim.


In January 2003, we had plenty of circumstantial evidence linking them.
Bush never said "there's no link". He said "I can't make that claim".
That's a pretty big difference. Why don't you look for something more
current? Like this, for example:

Bush Says Berg's Death Links Hussein, Al Qaeda

Reuters
Saturday, May 15, 2004; Page A07


MEQUON, Wis., May 14 -- President Bush on Friday blamed al Qaeda supporter
Abu Musab Zarqawi for beheading American Nicholas Berg and cited Zarqawi as
an example of Saddam Hussein's "terrorist ties" before the U.S.-led war in
Iraq.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004May14.html

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That will be the message from here until November. "There was a link
between Hussein and al Qaeda."