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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10359
Extract For the past year and a half, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, USA Today, Newsday, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, The Christian Science Monitor and other leading newspapers have repeatedly quoted unnamed U.S. intelligence officials boasting about the use of torture and other ill treatment of prisoners. Numerous detainees have been killed or attempted suicide in custody in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, prompting unprecedented expressions of concern by the International Committee of the Red Cross; suspects have been turned over to the foreign intelligence services of countries, such as Syria, with records of brutal torture; the ICRC has also specifically expressed concern about conditions at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq; and now, the U.S. military's own inquiry has found "systemic and illegal abuse of detainees" at Abu Ghraib. ................. This pattern of conduct has caused extraordinary damage to the cause of human rights around the world, as well as to the United States and to its ability to conduct foreign policy successfully, from Iraq to the global campaign against terrorism. |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
Jim wrote:
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10359 Extract For the past year and a half, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, USA Today, Newsday, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, The Christian Science Monitor and other leading newspapers have repeatedly quoted unnamed U.S. intelligence officials boasting about the use of torture and other ill treatment of prisoners. Numerous detainees have been killed or attempted suicide in custody in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, prompting unprecedented expressions of concern by the International Committee of the Red Cross; suspects have been turned over to the foreign intelligence services of countries, such as Syria, with records of brutal torture; the ICRC has also specifically expressed concern about conditions at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq; and now, the U.S. military's own inquiry has found "systemic and illegal abuse of detainees" at Abu Ghraib. ................ This pattern of conduct has caused extraordinary damage to the cause of human rights around the world, as well as to the United States and to its ability to conduct foreign policy successfully, from Iraq to the global campaign against terrorism. Repugs don't care about that...just ask Happy Toof |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10359 Extract For the past year and a half, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, USA Today, Newsday, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, The Christian Science Monitor and other leading newspapers have repeatedly quoted unnamed U.S. intelligence officials boasting about the use of torture and other ill treatment of prisoners. Numerous detainees have been killed or attempted suicide in custody in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, prompting unprecedented expressions of concern by the International Committee of the Red Cross; suspects have been turned over to the foreign intelligence services of countries, such as Syria, with records of brutal torture; the ICRC has also specifically expressed concern about conditions at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq; and now, the U.S. military's own inquiry has found "systemic and illegal abuse of detainees" at Abu Ghraib. ................ This pattern of conduct has caused extraordinary damage to the cause of human rights around the world, as well as to the United States and to its ability to conduct foreign policy successfully, from Iraq to the global campaign against terrorism. Repugs don't care about that...just ask Happy Toof Hey, dat's me! Yeah, Harry's right...I don't care what the World thinks. If torturing those guys saved one American life, then it was worth it. |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
"NOYB" ... Hey, dat's me! Yeah, Harry's right...I don't care what the World thinks. If torturing those guys saved one American life, then it was worth it. If your son or daughter were captured would you accept reciprocity. -rick- |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
"-rick-" wrote in message ... "NOYB" ... Hey, dat's me! Yeah, Harry's right...I don't care what the World thinks. If torturing those guys saved one American life, then it was worth it. If your son or daughter were captured would you accept reciprocity. The enemy has already demonstrated how they treat (mistreat) hostages. Do I need to link you to the pictures? They're still pretty vivid in my mind. |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
Instead it killed an American Civilian... A man in Iraq for no other reason
than to help rebuild, to make life better for Iraqi people... No, the Iraqi didn't kill him, he was killed by the real enemy, the ones we are supposed to be at war with... He was killed by al-Qaida... An American killed, his head cut off. His body left alongside a bridge in Baghdad. Saved 1 American life... No, it caused an innocent to die. You flipping right wing jack asses seem to think we should go to any means to complete the fantasy your leader has, yet it is costing innocent lives. American Innocent, Iraqi Innocent, it doesn't matter, it has to stop. Nick Berg from Pennsylvania.... Remember that name as you praise the people that torture. His mother - Suzanne His Father - Michael His Sister - Sarah His Brother - David Remember these 5 names as you praise the work of the current administration, remember them as you open your eyes to see the failed policy, the needless deaths. It must end, America must withdraw, the killing must come to an end. "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10359 Hey, dat's me! Yeah, Harry's right...I don't care what the World thinks. If torturing those guys saved one American life, then it was worth it. |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:31:55 GMT, wrote:
Instead it killed an American Civilian... A man in Iraq for no other reason than to help rebuild, to make life better for Iraqi people... No, the Iraqi didn't kill him, he was killed by the real enemy, the ones we are supposed to be at war with... He was killed by al-Qaida... An American killed, his head cut off. His body left alongside a bridge in Baghdad. Saved 1 American life... No, it caused an innocent to die. You flipping right wing jack asses seem to think we should go to any means to complete the fantasy your leader has, yet it is costing innocent lives. American Innocent, Iraqi Innocent, it doesn't matter, it has to stop. Nick Berg from Pennsylvania.... Remember that name as you praise the people that torture. His mother - Suzanne His Father - Michael His Sister - Sarah His Brother - David Remember these 5 names as you praise the work of the current administration, remember them as you open your eyes to see the failed policy, the needless deaths. It must end, America must withdraw, the killing must come to an end. "NOYB" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim wrote: http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10359 Hey, dat's me! Yeah, Harry's right...I don't care what the World thinks. If torturing those guys saved one American life, then it was worth it. Don't forget the 3000 from 9/11. Or are they forgotten now? Or maybe that was because of Bush too? Weren't we "withdrawn" then? Yup, it's our fault. Bull****. http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/h...0405120104.htm "My name is Nick Burg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Susan," the man said on the video. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ...Philaphedelia." After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" "God is great." They then held the head out before the camera. "For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you that we offered the U.S. administration to exchange this hostage with some of the detainees in Abu Ghraib and they refused," one of the men read from a statement. "So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us, but coffins after coffins ...slaughtered in this way." Note the "rationale" for this beheading. The word "retribution" was added by the American media. Yet you show no anger, except towards the American government. Freedom is a bitch, isn't it? John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
John
You right winged jack ass, September 11, 2001 was done by al-Qaida... What does that have to do with an unjust war in Iraq? Not a freaking thing. Yes we lost almost 3000 that day... Go to war against those that caused that day to happen, not against the people of Iraq. It is clear, by the name of the suposed man involved with Saturday's travesty that al-Qaida is the enemy. al-Qaida is the one trying to kill Americans al-Qaida is the one killing innocent Americans al-Qaida is the one we are at war with America wouldn't negotiate with these criminals, America wouldn't do anything to help save this mans life, America thought him to be expendable. Not my America, only yours. My America would have taken the time needed to find where this man was, then mow down the full lot of them including the prisoners they wanted released. My America would have brought this man home safe. I'm not sure what America you live in, but I want nothing to do with any America that thinks any AMERICAN is expendable. Remember these people, as they deserve to be remembered... They have paid the ultimate price for you to sit on your right winged ass and say they aren't worth it. Nick Berg from Pennsylvania.... Remember that name as you praise the people that torture. His mother - Suzanne His Father - Michael His Sister - Sarah His Brother - David Remember these 5 names as you praise the work of the current administration, remember them as you open your eyes to see the failed policy, the needless deaths. It must end, America must withdraw, the killing must come to an end. I pity you "John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 May 2004 22:31:55 GMT, wrote: Don't forget the 3000 from 9/11. Or are they forgotten now? Or maybe that was because of Bush too? Weren't we "withdrawn" then? Yup, it's our fault. Bull****. Note the "rationale" for this beheading. The word "retribution" was added by the American media. Yet you show no anger, except towards the American government. Freedom is a bitch, isn't it? John H |
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( OT ) Beyond Apologies (A Coalition Of Nine Human Rights Groups)
wrote in message ink.net... Instead it killed an American Civilian... A man in Iraq for no other reason than to help rebuild, to make life better for Iraqi people... No, the Iraqi didn't kill him, he was killed by the real enemy, the ones we are supposed to be at war with... He was killed by al-Qaida... An American killed, his head cut off. His body left alongside a bridge in Baghdad. Saved 1 American life... No, it caused an innocent to die. Which pictures caused the four guys to be hacked up in Fallujah? Which pictures caused Daniel Pearl's head to be cut off? Those events happened long before the Abu Ghraib incident. You're a jackass if you think the Abu Ghraib pics caused Nick Berg's death. Radical Muslims want us dead. The argument that our troop's actions are creating new radical fundamentalists each day is ridiculous. If Islam is a peace-loving religion, a few hundred pics of naked Iraqis isn't going to turn the moderates into radicals. There are no moderate, peace-loving Muslims...which makes it easy to decide who gets bombed next. |
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