A few days ago I posted a message regarding water in my bilge's new 2003
Trophy and all who responded were unanimous in agreeing that was not normal
and should be traced to the source so it could be remedied. Here is what
Ken Naff, the Regional Service Manager for Trophy boats said and I quote:

"With regard to water in the bilge, it is not uncommon and there will likely
be some residual such as you experience. If the water is in sufficient
quantity the bilge pump will pump it out. Please be advised when the pump
shuts off any water left in the hose runs back into the bilge."

How many of you agree with this explanation?

Ernie wrote:
A few days ago I posted a message regarding water in my bilge's new 2003
Trophy and all who responded were unanimous in agreeing that was not normal
and should be traced to the source so it could be remedied. Here is what
Ken Naff, the Regional Service Manager for Trophy boats said and I quote:

"With regard to water in the bilge, it is not uncommon and there will likely
be some residual such as you experience. If the water is in sufficient
quantity the bilge pump will pump it out. Please be advised when the pump
shuts off any water left in the hose runs back into the bilge."

How many of you agree with this explanation?



If there is water in the bilge of a brand-new fiberglass boat of the
size you have, and it isn't rainwater or spray or something like that,
then there is a leak. And there should not be. You're being bull****ted.

He is only correct from the point of a small amount of water can be found
based on any number of reasons from swimming, splashover, rain, etc....
However, if non of these are the reason and you ever have enough water for
the bilge to pump out - there is a problem.
The dealer has no way of finding the leak unless he is at the water.
Best you can do is to put the boat in the water and find the leak yourself.
Then depending on where it is, fix yourself or have the dealer fix once you
tell him where it is.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com



"Ernie" wrote in message
news
A few days ago I posted a message regarding water in my bilge's new 2003
Trophy and all who responded were unanimous in agreeing that was not
normal
and should be traced to the source so it could be remedied. Here is what
Ken Naff, the Regional Service Manager for Trophy boats said and I quote:

"With regard to water in the bilge, it is not uncommon and there will
likely
be some residual such as you experience. If the water is in sufficient
quantity the bilge pump will pump it out. Please be advised when the pump
shuts off any water left in the hose runs back into the bilge."

How many of you agree with this explanation?

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:zE0fc.31738$_K3.130511@attbi_s53...

The dealer has no way of finding the leak unless he is at the water.

I've been checking hull leaks for years, by filling them with water, then
observing from dry dock.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

"Netsock" wrote in news:c5j7rj$s5r$1
@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu:

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:zE0fc.31738$_K3.130511@attbi_s53...

The dealer has no way of finding the leak unless he is at the water.

I've been checking hull leaks for years, by filling them with water, then
observing from dry dock.


You patch your hull leaks with water then check your work at drydock?

From the same fellow who "ploinks" posters with "double digit IQ's"?

Shut your pie hole Greenhalgh.

"Joe S" wrote in message
...
"Netsock" wrote in news:c5j7rj$s5r$1
@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu:

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:zE0fc.31738$_K3.130511@attbi_s53...

The dealer has no way of finding the leak unless he is at the water.

I've been checking hull leaks for years, by filling them with water,
then
observing from dry dock.


You patch your hull leaks with water then check your work at drydock?

No...I take the boat out of the water (dry dock), fill the hull, and look to
see where water comes out.


From the same fellow who "ploinks" posters with "double digit IQ's"?

Actually, I found it interesting that this method had to be explained to
you.


Shut your pie hole Greenhalgh.

Heh heh...what is your IQ Joe?

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

I'm the guy that posted the original message regarding water in the bilge
and filling it with water is exactly what Portland Yacht Services of
Portland, Maine will be doing this Friday weather permitting. Hopefully
they will find the lead and I will water free coming May 15, launch time.
Damn it's been a long winter.


"Netsock" wrote in message
...
"Joe S" wrote in message
...
"Netsock" wrote in news:c5j7rj$s5r$1
@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu:

"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:zE0fc.31738$_K3.130511@attbi_s53...

The dealer has no way of finding the leak unless he is at the water.

I've been checking hull leaks for years, by filling them with water,
then
observing from dry dock.


You patch your hull leaks with water then check your work at drydock?

No...I take the boat out of the water (dry dock), fill the hull, and look
to
see where water comes out.


From the same fellow who "ploinks" posters with "double digit IQ's"?

Actually, I found it interesting that this method had to be explained to
you.


Shut your pie hole Greenhalgh.

Heh heh...what is your IQ Joe?

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.insight.rr.com/cgreen/

In article zE0fc.31738$_K3.130511@attbi_s53, "Tony Thomas"
writes:

He is only correct from the point of a small amount of water can be found
based on any number of reasons from swimming, splashover, rain, etc....
However, if non of these are the reason and you ever have enough water for
the bilge to pump out - there is a problem.
The dealer has no way of finding the leak unless he is at the water.

Well, he could put some water inside the boat and look for it leaking out.





Frank Bell
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A. Top Posting.

Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

I read the other thread. It seems many people are jumping on the
"there should be no water" idea without asking some questions.

How much water are you talking about?

If you empty ALL water then let the boat just set in the water
(not in use and not raining) do you get more water in the bilge?

You say there is always water in the bilge. But it that while you're
using it (which could be from spray) or even when just setting.


Sounds to me like you need to determine if there is a leak or if the water
is possibly coming from spray or rain. Maybe get all the water out in
any way you can (sponge) and then let it set for some days when
it's not raining. ~~ Of course, some leaks may not manifest themselves
unless you are using the boat. Maybe you can use the boat in conditions
where you are careful not to get spray.

Also note, you could get check-valves for the bilge pump(s) so
most water in the bilge hose will not return to the bilge. Some people
have concerns about doing this because it cuts down the flow-rates
of the pump.

Most boats will not be 100% dry all the time. Some use, spray, rain, etc
will get in there. On the other hand you could have a leak. You need
to do some tests to find out what's going on.

Pure bull****. There should be NO water in the bilge except
what gets in through spray or rain. True, the pump(s) will
leave an inch or two after they shut off. If you remove this
water, it should not return. If yours is a trailer boat,
there may be water in the forward hull sections that doesn't
drain out from the drain plug at the angle the boat's
sitting at on the trailer. Jack the nose *WAY* up to drain,
and check the limber holes between bulkheads to make sure
they're not clogged or glassed closed. Once your sure all
the water has been removed, it should not re-appear under
normal circumstances. Discounting the above mentioned stuff,
if it does, well, it leaks....
JR

Ernie wrote:

A few days ago I posted a message regarding water in my bilge's new 2003
Trophy and all who responded were unanimous in agreeing that was not normal
and should be traced to the source so it could be remedied. Here is what
Ken Naff, the Regional Service Manager for Trophy boats said and I quote:

"With regard to water in the bilge, it is not uncommon and there will likely
be some residual such as you experience. If the water is in sufficient
quantity the bilge pump will pump it out. Please be advised when the pump
shuts off any water left in the hose runs back into the bilge."

How many of you agree with this explanation?

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