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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


The economy is great. Unemployment is low, and GDP is up. The stock
market is undervalued IMHO. People got burned by the corporate
accounting scandals and irrational growth from the dot-coms and
IPO's...and turned to a safer investment: real estate. Real estate is
the new millenium's new stock market.


That's a crock.

BUSH JOB LOSSES NEAR 3 MILLION: "Our economy is strong," President
George
W. Bush declared on May 31, citing as evidence job growth during the
past
two years and a 5.1 percent unemployment rate. What Bush didn't mention
was how many jobs have been lost in his entire four-year-plus tenure.

Irrelevant. There's been a *NET GAIN* of nearly a million jobs while
he's
been President...and almost 3 1/2 million in the last two years.

Yeah, sure. Let's say that a certain person's worth five years ago was
$1 million. Because of poor investments, four years ago, your worth was
down to $500,000. This year your worth went up to $750,000. Following
your analogy, you actually gained! But, wait, look......there's a
$250,000 deficit, not including inflation, etc.



Fact: There are more people working today than in 2000.

Fact: There have been 23 straight months of net gains in the employment
numbers

Fact: If you add up the net gains and the net losses each month since Bush
has been in office, you end up with a total net gain of almost 900,000 jobs.

Fact: You're a dimwit

Fact: There are more people working today than in 2000.


Well, duh. There are more people, period, today than in 2000.


Fact: There have been 23 straight months of net gains in the employment
numbers

Says who? Anybody we know and might believe, anybody with some shred of
credibility outside Hooray-Bush-&-Cheney-World?

NOYB wrote:
Fact: If you add up the net gains and the net losses each month since Bush
has been in office, you end up with a total net gain of almost 900,000 jobs.


Wait a minute, I thought it was over 3 million? Is that pesky math
disability catching up with you again?

BTW did you ever work out that issue of how much US debt the Chinese are
currently holding?

Fact: You're a dimwit


He's not the one claiming 2 *very* different sets of numbers for the
same statistic.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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Fact: There are more people working today than in 2000.


Well, duh. There are more people, period, today than in 2000.


Fact: There have been 23 straight months of net gains in the employment
numbers

Says who? Anybody we know and might believe, anybody with some shred of
credibility outside Hooray-Bush-&-Cheney-World?


Says the BLS you nincompoop.

NOYB wrote:
Fact: If you add up the net gains and the net losses each month since
Bush has been in office, you end up with a total net gain of almost
900,000 jobs.


Wait a minute, I thought it was over 3 million? Is that pesky math
disability catching up with you again?

3 million in the last 23 months. Negative 2+ million in the first 20
months. That gives a net gain of 900,000 in 53 months.

Math, DSK, math.




BTW did you ever work out that issue of how much US debt the Chinese are
currently holding?

Fact: You're a dimwit

He's not the one claiming 2 *very* different sets of numbers for the same
statistic

Boy are you obtuse.

Wait a minute, I thought it was over 3 million? Is that pesky math
disability catching up with you again?


NOYB wrote:
3 million in the last 23 months. Negative 2+ million in the first 20
months. That gives a net gain of 900,000 in 53 months.

Math, DSK, math.


But first you said that Bush hasn't lost any jobs, then you said that
he'd caused a net gain of 3 1/2 million. You said the Democrat claims of
net job loss under Bush were all lies.

Now you say that he *did* lose jobs, then gain more... and you seem to
not know whether the result is more than 3 million as you first claimed
(did you lie?), or less than 1 million.

It seems to me that if you can't explain the situation without either
using two different sets of numbers for the same figure of merit (they
send accountants to jail for that, y'know) and/or calling other people
liars (among other names), then you probably aren't very close to the
truth yourself. The truth is usually simple & commonsense, real world
facts are usually rather consistent.

Why do 'conservatives' fear the truth, and why do they engage in so much
doubletalk?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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Wait a minute, I thought it was over 3 million? Is that pesky math
disability catching up with you again?


NOYB wrote:
3 million in the last 23 months. Negative 2+ million in the first 20
months. That gives a net gain of 900,000 in 53 months.

Math, DSK, math.


But first you said that Bush hasn't lost any jobs, then you said that he'd
caused a net gain of 3 1/2 million. You said the Democrat claims of net
job loss under Bush were all lies.

It *is* a lie to say that there has been a *net* job loss under Bush.



Now you say that he *did* lose jobs, then gain more... and you seem to not
know whether the result is more than 3 million as you first claimed (did
you lie?), or less than 1 million

I've posted the exact numbers on here befo


We're up 3.466 million jobs in the last 23 months. That's 23 straight
months of net jobs *gained*.


Since Bush took office, we've had a total net gain of 839,000 jobs.



So that means there was a net loss of 2.627 million jobs in the first 20
months, and a net gain of 3.466 million jobs in the most recent 23
months...giving us a net gain of 839,000 jobs since Bush first took office
in 2001.

Employment data is a lagging indicator. The first 6-12 months of Bush's
Presidency are a reflection of where the economy was 6 to 12 months earlier.
The next 6-12 months are a reflection of what happened on 9/11. The last 23
months (3.466 million *net* jobs gained) are a reflection of Bush's economic
policies, rather than those of his predecessor.

Got it?

Hey NOYB.......do you enjoy beating your head against a wall? LOL


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"DSK" wrote in message
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Wait a minute, I thought it was over 3 million? Is that pesky math
disability catching up with you again?


NOYB wrote:
3 million in the last 23 months. Negative 2+ million in the first 20
months. That gives a net gain of 900,000 in 53 months.

Math, DSK, math.


But first you said that Bush hasn't lost any jobs, then you said that
he'd caused a net gain of 3 1/2 million. You said the Democrat claims of
net job loss under Bush were all lies.

It *is* a lie to say that there has been a *net* job loss under Bush.



Now you say that he *did* lose jobs, then gain more... and you seem to
not know whether the result is more than 3 million as you first claimed
(did you lie?), or less than 1 million

I've posted the exact numbers on here befo


We're up 3.466 million jobs in the last 23 months. That's 23 straight
months of net jobs *gained*.


Since Bush took office, we've had a total net gain of 839,000 jobs.



So that means there was a net loss of 2.627 million jobs in the first 20
months, and a net gain of 3.466 million jobs in the most recent 23
months...giving us a net gain of 839,000 jobs since Bush first took office
in 2001.

Employment data is a lagging indicator. The first 6-12 months of Bush's
Presidency are a reflection of where the economy was 6 to 12 months
earlier. The next 6-12 months are a reflection of what happened on 9/11.
The last 23 months (3.466 million *net* jobs gained) are a reflection of
Bush's economic policies, rather than those of his predecessor.

Got it?

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
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Hey NOYB.......do you enjoy beating your head against a wall? LOL

LOL. I always hold out for that last glimmer of hope, even from the dimmest
of bulbs. Since DSK is slightly dumber than the average dummy, I'm hoping
that is why it's taking longer than usual.

There are some people, like basskisser, who I have totally have given up on.
I'd rather pull a fish out of the Gulf and explain things to the fish.

P.Fritz wrote:
Hey NOYB.......do you enjoy beating your head against a wall? LOL


He seems to enjoy that more than he enjoys facing reality.

So tell us, Puff Fritzy, when are you going start quoting facts &
figures showing what a great job President Bush has done with the
economy? Don't let NOBBY hog the show.

DSK

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:24:56 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message
t...
Wait a minute, I thought it was over 3 million? Is that pesky math
disability catching up with you again?


NOYB wrote:
3 million in the last 23 months. Negative 2+ million in the first 20
months. That gives a net gain of 900,000 in 53 months.

Math, DSK, math.


But first you said that Bush hasn't lost any jobs, then you said that he'd
caused a net gain of 3 1/2 million. You said the Democrat claims of net
job loss under Bush were all lies.

It *is* a lie to say that there has been a *net* job loss under Bush.



Now you say that he *did* lose jobs, then gain more... and you seem to not
know whether the result is more than 3 million as you first claimed (did
you lie?), or less than 1 million

I've posted the exact numbers on here befo


We're up 3.466 million jobs in the last 23 months. That's 23 straight
months of net jobs *gained*.


Since Bush took office, we've had a total net gain of 839,000 jobs.



So that means there was a net loss of 2.627 million jobs in the first 20
months, and a net gain of 3.466 million jobs in the most recent 23
months...giving us a net gain of 839,000 jobs since Bush first took office
in 2001.

Employment data is a lagging indicator. The first 6-12 months of Bush's
Presidency are a reflection of where the economy was 6 to 12 months earlier.
The next 6-12 months are a reflection of what happened on 9/11. The last 23
months (3.466 million *net* jobs gained) are a reflection of Bush's economic
policies, rather than those of his predecessor.

Got it?

Do you see why I stopped? This is worse than Kevin!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:


The economy is great. Unemployment is low, and GDP is up. The stock
market is undervalued IMHO. People got burned by the corporate
accounting scandals and irrational growth from the dot-coms and
IPO's...and turned to a safer investment: real estate. Real estate
is
the new millenium's new stock market.


That's a crock.

BUSH JOB LOSSES NEAR 3 MILLION: "Our economy is strong," President
George
W. Bush declared on May 31, citing as evidence job growth during the
past
two years and a 5.1 percent unemployment rate. What Bush didn't
mention
was how many jobs have been lost in his entire four-year-plus tenure.

Irrelevant. There's been a *NET GAIN* of nearly a million jobs while
he's
been President...and almost 3 1/2 million in the last two years.

Yeah, sure. Let's say that a certain person's worth five years ago was
$1 million. Because of poor investments, four years ago, your worth was
down to $500,000. This year your worth went up to $750,000. Following
your analogy, you actually gained! But, wait, look......there's a
$250,000 deficit, not including inflation, etc.



Fact: There are more people working today than in 2000.

Fact: There have been 23 straight months of net gains in the employment
numbers

Fact: If you add up the net gains and the net losses each month since Bush
has been in office, you end up with a total net gain of almost 900,000
jobs.

Fact: You're a dimwit


Fact: He is the "King of the NG idiots"