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OT--Bush dumb? Kerry dumber!
Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF |
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Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. He's not "portrayed" that way, President Bush does in fact mangle words & sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. Does anybody actually believe this? Strikes me as yet another case of Bush's records being conveniently lost or falsified. If you want to see the *real* difference between the two, compare how the two's children speak in public, and behave in general. But hey, if 'family values' matter most to you, then you probably won't care about raising intelligent, well balanced, well-spoken, professional, and high-achieving kids... at least, if you claim you care about family values and voted for Bush anyway... DSK |
NOYB wrote: Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF School transcripts have little bearing on someone's intelligence. |
wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF School transcripts have little bearing on someone's intelligence. I believe it was you who posted information about Bush's grades when he was in school. It was posted during the election hoopla. Why were grades important then but now not important? |
wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF School transcripts have little bearing on someone's intelligence. Is that the story you used to tell your mom? |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF What did Kerry take? I've seen Bush's transcript and noted he took all the courses we referred to as "puds." Stop asking sensible questions right this minute. |
Bush dumb? Kerry Dumber?
Dumber yet would be anybody equating GPA with intelligence. Grades have a lot to do with motivation, social issues, and (in what passes for education these days), the ability to parrot back factoids on "exams" that do little to demonstrate whether the student actually understands the material. Bush has a lower verbal IQ than Kerry's, and probably slightly lower than average. This is apparent to anyone who has heard him attempt to speak without a prompter. He admits he doesn't read, but rather has his staff read newspapers and periodicals for him and prepare summaries. Verbal IQ is not the sum total of intelligence. There is another portion of IQ, spatial reasoning and deduction (i.e. math skills) where Bush may do very well. While one can observe evidence of verbal IQ when another person attempts to communicate, the other aspects are not apparent to the casual observer and are best evaluated with a specialized test. There is no doubt that Bush is more shrewd, cunning, and ruthless than Kerry. If those can be considered aspects of "intelligence", (and they may well be- they allow a person to be effective against opposition), Bush clearly wins in that category. Historians will never consider GWB to be the brightest bulb in the presidential chandelier, but there is little direct correlation between college grades and native intelligence. Some very bright people undoubtedly went to college and screwed around socializing rather than studying. College doesn't make anyone intelligent. Some emerge "educated", but that is a different quality entirely. Smartest presidents in the last 50 years would have to include: JFK Jimmy Carter (proving there is no direct correlation between being a smart person and an extremely good president) Bill Clinton Ronald Reagan (in his first term) Johnson, Nixon, and Bush the First were also pretty bright, but I'd put them down a level below the group in the previous paragraph Bush the Second and Gerald Ford bring up the rear, IMO. |
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Damn.....you should go out fishing tonight in the gulf........with the
numbers of bites you've had with this bait. LMAO "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student His 4-year average on par with Bush's By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005 WASHINGTON -- During last year's presidential campaign, John F. Kerry was the candidate often portrayed as intellectual and complex, while George W. Bush was the populist who mangled his sentences. But newly released records show that Bush and Kerry had a virtually identical grade average at Yale University four decades ago. In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year. Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years. (In the interest of upholding international copyright laws, a significant portion of this article has been snipped. Go to the link below to see the article in it's entirety.) http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...dent? mode=PF School transcripts have little bearing on someone's intelligence. I believe it was you who posted information about Bush's grades when he was in school. It was posted during the election hoopla. I believe you are.....wrong. Why were grades important then but now not important? I never ever said they WERE important. |
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