Hold on....

Wasn't it Bayliner that offered the first "Packaged" boat, motor and trailer
for under $10,000 ?

Prior to this the dealers clamped the customers choice of motors on any
boat, dumped the rig on a trailer and sent the customer on his way.
Unfortunately many dealers knew nothing about proper motor setup, i.e.,
transom height, prop pitch to match the boat load, etc. My dad bought such
a setup and it NEVER performed very well, but sure cost a lot! Bayliner
solved this for the un-educated public who just wanted to buy a boat and
enjoy it without becoming a setup guru. Then when they went to all products
for a given production year having the same interiors, they reduced the cost
by limiting the selections and the number of fabric styles they had to
stock, offer and deal with. All of this helped make boating a lot more
affordable for many people. They never have intended to supply the
performance market. They have tried and successfully put affordable boats
with a good ride in the hands of many people who might not otherwise be able
to afford a boat. How can you knock that ?

Don Dando


"Maxx1676" wrote in message
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I've noticed some other people badmouthing Bayliners on other sites,
but keep in mind those are usually biased opinions based on peer
pressure and opinion, not fact.

Most of the people who have badmouthed the Bays, when I inquire why
they feel this way all they can reply is " I just do cause they suck"
or something similar, which is really not a reason at all. Fact is, it
all boils down to personal preference. The majority of people will
tell you what you will like based on their preferences, not yours.

Bayliners don't seem to come with 7000 RPM twin V8 engines & jet
drives, nor do they seem to attract hordes of drunken siliconed
facelifted and botoxed bimbos in thong bikinis like the Cigarettes,
Fountains, and Formulas...they do not thunder ominously through no
wake zones or make all other boat owners drool with envy...nor do they
provide a massive market for anodized chromed polished gold plated
titanium blingity-bling that will cause you to sell off a kidney to
pay off your Visa card.

In short, the Bayliner is not the model status symbol that these other
boats represent. From what i've learned, the Bayliner is more of a
workhorse, not incredibly ultra-sleek expensive, sexy, or
stately...but very tough and reliable. They are also, from what I've
seen in comparison to other boat types, pretty cheap to work on.

While a Bayliner will not increase your penis length like these other
boats try to do, it will (when properly maintained) take you anywhere
you want to go and will do so with a fair amount of reliability.
Bayliner owners - in general - also seem to be alot more social, alot
nicer, and a helluva lot more grounded. Bayliner owners seem to
generally have more interesting things to talk about rather than the
last 100 poker runs, how much was spent on those neon purple polished
aluminum valve covers to match that neon purple multi port EFI system
to match that neon purple trailer, or how much premarital sex they've
gotten because of their boat.

I do boat repair and Bayliners aren't popular around here.We had an
insurance job to redo the inside of one that the alcohol stove
exploded in which destroyed the interior of the boat and a good
percentage of the exterior of the owner also.I started the job under
the impression Bayliners were crap foisted unto rubes and quickly
found out they were better constructed than most other boats I have
worked on.Unless you repair or work on boats you would be surprised
how much a name-brand can cover up for shiddy construction,bad
planning and cheap materials.For the most part people don't have much
idea at all what is or isn't "quality" and for the most part boats are
made to sell.Period.I told the owner I thought his boat was very well
made and he said he bought it dirt cheap on the Georgia coast because
of its bad reputation, that the same boat would sell for double the
price in the Puget sound area as they are considered to be a good boat
there.