"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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I have yet to meet a Canadian or Greenland Eskimo who actually
got upset about the term Eskimo. What they get upset about is
the attitude of *people*, not the terminology.

Every single one of them that I've met were well aware of the
proper use of the the term, and had no problem with it.

You realize of course that it is rarely ever needed in Canada or
Greenland, simply because all of the Eskimos there are indeed
Inuit.
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Well Floyd, I guess there are some people in the USA who don't get upset
over the term "******" but most do.
There are some people in the USA who don't get upset over the term "Eskimo"
but most of the Inuit in Canada do get upset over this usage of a term from
the past.

James D. Carter

"Jim Carter" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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I have yet to meet a Canadian or Greenland Eskimo who actually
got upset about the term Eskimo. What they get upset about is
the attitude of *people*, not the terminology.

Every single one of them that I've met were well aware of the
proper use of the the term, and had no problem with it.

You realize of course that it is rarely ever needed in Canada or
Greenland, simply because all of the Eskimos there are indeed
Inuit.
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Well Floyd, I guess there are some people in the USA who don't get upset
over the term "******" but most do.

There is *no* comparison between the two words. Anybody who
*doesn't* get upset about the word "******" is an asshole, just
for starters and it probably gets worse after that. That word
has absolutely *no* credible use in the English language.

There are some people in the USA who don't get upset over the term "Eskimo"
but most of the Inuit in Canada do get upset over this usage of a term from
the past.

That isn't true. And as I've noted, there is *no* word in the
English language to replace it.

Just how many Eskimos have you ever discussed this topic with?

You want to insult someone... just try telling a few Yupik
people that they really should call themselves Inuit...

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Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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Just how many Eskimos have you ever discussed this topic with?
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Hi Floyd: I have discussed it with several Inuit at the home of my niece in
Rankin Inlet, Nunavut.

James D. Carter

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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Just how many Eskimos have you ever discussed this topic with?
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Hi Floyd: I have discussed it with several Inuit at the home of my niece
in
Rankin Inlet, Nunavut.

Are all persons of first nations identify in Canada called Inuit? I didn't
think so!

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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Are all persons of first nations identify in Canada called Inuit? I didn't
think so!
No Bert, they are not. Some of the First Nations people are referred by
name of tribal designation and others by the tribal federations.

The Inuit are a people indigenous of the far north.

James D. Carter

"Jim Carter" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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................snip......
Just how many Eskimos have you ever discussed this topic with?

Hi Floyd: I have discussed it with several Inuit at the home of my niece in
Rankin Inlet, Nunavut.

You said before that your niece told you how they felt...

The only people I've ever seen get as adamant about it as you
are, are *all* non-Eskimos, and have also all been people who
have limited contact with them at best. (And yes, in my opinion
school teachers typically have limited contact with them,
unfortunately.)

The last school teacher, or former teacher in this case, that I
talked to about it was my daughter. She spent three years going
to school in Albuquerque a few years ago, and told me that a lot
of people objected to her use of the term Eskimo. They'd tell
her she should said "Inuit". She'd politely say, "No, I am
Yupik Eskimo."

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Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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You said before that your niece told you how they felt...

The only people I've ever seen get as adamant about it as you
are, are *all* non-Eskimos, and have also all been people who
have limited contact with them at best. (And yes, in my opinion
school teachers typically have limited contact with them,
unfortunately.)

The last school teacher, or former teacher in this case, that I
talked to about it was my daughter. She spent three years going
to school in Albuquerque a few years ago, and told me that a lot
of people objected to her use of the term Eskimo. They'd tell
her she should said "Inuit". She'd politely say, "No, I am
Yupik Eskimo."

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Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Floyd: It takes time for some people to adjust to proper and polite
society. It may take years for you to change your outlook on life, as you
see it, just as it took years for most people in the USA to accept that
certain racial slurs are not acceptable to most people. If you want to
call your Yupik people "Eskimo" then by all means, go ahead, it's your
life, but, please do not refer to the Inuit in the Canadian Far North as
"Eskimo" To do so, you will then be referred to as an uninformed bigot.
I am not "Black" but I would not think it proper to call a black person a
"******" even if "he" calls himself one.

James D. Carter

This in depth discussion with James and Floyd shows the confusion about the
natives of the North.

I found this web site and I would like to hear James and Floyds review of
the information provided.

This web site agrees with Floyd.
http://www.quarkexpeditions.com/arctic/culture.shtml



"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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Are all persons of first nations identify in Canada called Inuit? I
didn't
think so!
No Bert, they are not. Some of the First Nations people are referred by
name of tribal designation and others by the tribal federations.

The Inuit are a people indigenous of the far north.

James D. Carter

The confusion over "Eskimo" vs. "Inuit" illustrates the paradoxes that
accompany the many attempts these days to change the names of ethnic groups.

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, "Many Americans today either
avoid this term (Eskimo) or feel uneasy using it." For example, a Web site
of the University of Wisconsin School of Education advises teachers, "There
are no 'Eskimo' people."

That would come as a surprise, however, to thousands of Yup'ik-speaking
Eskimos in Western Alaska who much prefer to be called "Eskimo" instead of
"Inuit."

Why? They aren't Inuit.

Steven A. Jacobson, a professor at the Alaska Native Language Center (of the
University of Alaska at Fairbanks), told United Press International, "Yup'ik
speakers say, 'We're Yup'ik Eskimos; our relatives in northern Alaska,
Canada and Greenland are Inuit Eskimos; they aren't Yup'ik, and we aren't
Inuit, but we're all Eskimos.' Yup'ik speakers prefer to be called 'Yup'iks'
.... and -- in contrast to Inuit in Canada -- don't mind the word 'Eskimo,'
but they do not like to be called

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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You said before that your niece told you how they felt...

The only people I've ever seen get as adamant about it as you
are, are *all* non-Eskimos, and have also all been people who
have limited contact with them at best. (And yes, in my opinion
school teachers typically have limited contact with them,
unfortunately.)

The last school teacher, or former teacher in this case, that I
talked to about it was my daughter. She spent three years going
to school in Albuquerque a few years ago, and told me that a lot
of people objected to her use of the term Eskimo. They'd tell
her she should said "Inuit". She'd politely say, "No, I am
Yupik Eskimo."

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Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Floyd: It takes time for some people to adjust to proper and polite
society. It may take years for you to change your outlook on life, as
you
see it, just as it took years for most people in the USA to accept that
certain racial slurs are not acceptable to most people. If you want to
call your Yupik people "Eskimo" then by all means, go ahead, it's your
life, but, please do not refer to the Inuit in the Canadian Far North as
"Eskimo" To do so, you will then be referred to as an uninformed bigot.
I am not "Black" but I would not think it proper to call a black person a
"******" even if "he" calls himself one.

James D. Carter

Floyd,
I stand corrected. My mistake is a common misunderstanding. If you had not
taken a firm stand on this misunderstanding, I would not have bothered to
find out the truth.


"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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"T S Sherlock" wrote:
Paul
Eskimo means "eaters of raw meat" and was the name Canadian Indians used
when talking about the Inuits.

Nahhh. It ain't so. But it does make for a good story...

The Inuits have always referred to themselves as Inuit (the Yupik variant
is
Yuit), which means the "real people."

Inuit and Yupik are the same word in two different languages.
They both derive from same Proto-Eskimo word (which means that
2000 years ago, the ancestors of both Inuit and Yupik people
spoke one language, and the word they used to mean the same
thing is something like "Inuy".

It does mean "Real People", but in a way that is very difficult
to explain to most English speakers because of their religious
convictions. It actually means a human in the sense of being
the original owner of a human spirit. That would be as opposed
to a non-human masquerading as a human, which may well look and
sound exactly like a human, but might have the spirit of a bear.

(If you think that is unreasonable, just go annoy someone you
suspect of being a bear, and see of they don't just turn into
one...)

It may not be as negative as the N word, but it is definitely antiquated,
sort of like calling Native American's "Indians".

That's silly. First, it isn't antiquated in any way. It is the
one and the only word that refers to all Eskimo people,
languages, or cultures. If you want to reference them all,
there is no other way to do it. (Which is a common requirement
when speaking to Alaskans... or to linguists.)

Second, the same problem applies to "Native American's"
vs. "Indians". Some people don't like one, some don't like the
other. But regardless, the two words have *different*
meanings! Indians are American Indians. Native Americans are
Indians, Eskimo, Aleuts, Hawaiians, Samoans and probably a couple
other types of people who are not Indians.

Native American is a word that was coin a few decades ago for
use by the government....


"Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message
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Jim,
Didn't know that. Where does the term Eskimos come from? I take it they
wish to be called "Inuit"?
Paul


Jim Carter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Well, she was planning to sell Sterno to Eskimos, but she drank it,

instead.
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Good Morning Harry.

I am sure you did not know that using the word "Eskimo" to describe the
"Inuit" people of the far north, is like calling a black man the " N "
word.

James D. Carter


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Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)