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Suzuki Outboards
While I believe that Suzuki makes a very good outboard motor, I would
hesitate to recommend one to a prospective buyer after reading about their "scorched-earth" litigation tactics dealing with Consumer Reports. It seems that back in 1988 CR gave the Suzuki Samurai an unacceptable rating after finding it had a tendancy to tip over while turning, a quality I would find alarming in a motor vehicle. Read the March 2004 issue of Consumer Reports to get their side. Based upon this information, I would hesitate to recommend the purchase of any Suzuki product for fear of facing these tactics should one have any product liability dealings with the firm. Capt. jeff |
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Suzuki Outboards
Could you elaborate on the "scortched earth" policy you mentioned? -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "Messing In Boats" wrote in message ... While I believe that Suzuki makes a very good outboard motor, I would hesitate to recommend one to a prospective buyer after reading about their "scorched-earth" litigation tactics dealing with Consumer Reports. It seems that back in 1988 CR gave the Suzuki Samurai an unacceptable rating after finding it had a tendancy to tip over while turning, a quality I would find alarming in a motor vehicle. Read the March 2004 issue of Consumer Reports to get their side. Based upon this information, I would hesitate to recommend the purchase of any Suzuki product for fear of facing these tactics should one have any product liability dealings with the firm. Capt. jeff |
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Capt.,
Here's the link: http://www.consumerreports.org/main/...=1076887011603 Or go to Consumers Report home page and follow the link in regards to Suzuki. http://www.consumerreports.org/main/...?bhfv=6&bhqs=1 Paul "Capt Frank Hopkins" wrote in message ink.net... Could you elaborate on the "scortched earth" policy you mentioned? -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "Messing In Boats" wrote in message ... While I believe that Suzuki makes a very good outboard motor, I would hesitate to recommend one to a prospective buyer after reading about their "scorched-earth" litigation tactics dealing with Consumer Reports. It seems that back in 1988 CR gave the Suzuki Samurai an unacceptable rating after finding it had a tendancy to tip over while turning, a quality I would find alarming in a motor vehicle. Read the March 2004 issue of Consumer Reports to get their side. Based upon this information, I would hesitate to recommend the purchase of any Suzuki product for fear of facing these tactics should one have any product liability dealings with the firm. Capt. jeff |
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CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long,
long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to be expected. Today there are some very well rated and very environmentally friendly cars made by Suzuki. You don't see Exxon-Mobil suing because the vehicles don't use enough fuel? For the most any application, Suzuki outboards are worth considering as a good powerplant for your boat. Because CU is posturing for litigation against Suzuki, this is no reason to take sides, as you and CU suggest. Peter http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...sort=3&rows=50 Messing In Boats wrote: While I believe that Suzuki makes a very good outboard motor, I would hesitate to recommend one to a prospective buyer after reading about their "scorched-earth" litigation tactics dealing with Consumer Reports. It seems that back in 1988 CR gave the Suzuki Samurai an unacceptable rating after finding it had a tendancy to tip over while turning, a quality I would find alarming in a motor vehicle. Read the March 2004 issue of Consumer Reports to get their side. Based upon this information, I would hesitate to recommend the purchase of any Suzuki product for fear of facing these tactics should one have any product liability dealings with the firm. Capt. jeff |
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Hi Gene, we are running several suzi-q's and havn't had any trouble out of any of them. (except for renters running aground and chewing up props or damage to the lower unit.) So far, ownership, and maintenance costs included they are out preforming the Mercs and Yammies. We plan to buy more as our 2 strokes wear out. -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:14:29 GMT, Sailing Fan wrote: CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long, long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to be expected. Today there are some very well rated and very environmentally friendly cars made by Suzuki. You don't see Exxon-Mobil suing because the vehicles don't use enough fuel? For the most any application, Suzuki outboards are worth considering as a good powerplant for your boat. Because CU is posturing for litigation against Suzuki, this is no reason to take sides, as you and CU suggest. Peter I don't grasp your point. We have an adversarial system of litigation. One can either have no interest or adopt a position. It seems that you have taken the side of Suzuki, in that you feel CU rushed to hasty judgment. My point is that this isn't the first time they have do so..... IMHO, resulting in the death of the Jeep CJ...Thus, incurring financial harm, Jeep probably has a better case than Suzuki. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide |
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ooops, clcicked send too quick. I guess we are talking outboards and oranges here! -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:14:29 GMT, Sailing Fan wrote: CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long, long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to be expected. Today there are some very well rated and very environmentally friendly cars made by Suzuki. You don't see Exxon-Mobil suing because the vehicles don't use enough fuel? For the most any application, Suzuki outboards are worth considering as a good powerplant for your boat. Because CU is posturing for litigation against Suzuki, this is no reason to take sides, as you and CU suggest. Peter I don't grasp your point. We have an adversarial system of litigation. One can either have no interest or adopt a position. It seems that you have taken the side of Suzuki, in that you feel CU rushed to hasty judgment. My point is that this isn't the first time they have do so..... IMHO, resulting in the death of the Jeep CJ...Thus, incurring financial harm, Jeep probably has a better case than Suzuki. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:14:29 GMT, Sailing Fan wrote: CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long, long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to be expected. Today there are some very well rated and very environmentally friendly cars made by Suzuki. You don't see Exxon-Mobil suing because the vehicles don't use enough fuel? For the most any application, Suzuki outboards are worth considering as a good powerplant for your boat. Because CU is posturing for litigation against Suzuki, this is no reason to take sides, as you and CU suggest. Peter I don't grasp your point. We have an adversarial system of litigation. One can either have no interest or adopt a position. It seems that you have taken the side of Suzuki, in that you feel CU rushed to hasty judgment. My point is that this isn't the first time they have do so..... IMHO, resulting in the death of the Jeep CJ...Thus, incurring financial harm, Jeep probably has a better case than Suzuki. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide CU said that the CJ could roll easier than a car. They are correct. All the small jeeps rolled. Including my 43 Willy. Jeep lost a multimillion dollar suit, locally (Oakland, Calif) a few years ago, when a guy and his buddy rolled his CJ on a city street and the POS factory rollbar failed and paralyzed the guy for life. The Samurai made the CJ look like a sportscar in regards to handling. |
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Bill,
I had a CJ5, those rollbars were pretty ornamental. I'd soon heard of other CJ's that had rolled and the bars failed. It did teach me one thing, to always wear a seatbelt. Paul "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:14:29 GMT, Sailing Fan wrote: CU made a hasty decision to give Suzuki an unacceptable rating a long, long time ago. To save face, they have stuck to their guns, which is to be expected. Today there are some very well rated and very environmentally friendly cars made by Suzuki. You don't see Exxon-Mobil suing because the vehicles don't use enough fuel? For the most any application, Suzuki outboards are worth considering as a good powerplant for your boat. Because CU is posturing for litigation against Suzuki, this is no reason to take sides, as you and CU suggest. Peter I don't grasp your point. We have an adversarial system of litigation. One can either have no interest or adopt a position. It seems that you have taken the side of Suzuki, in that you feel CU rushed to hasty judgment. My point is that this isn't the first time they have do so..... IMHO, resulting in the death of the Jeep CJ...Thus, incurring financial harm, Jeep probably has a better case than Suzuki. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide CU said that the CJ could roll easier than a car. They are correct. All the small jeeps rolled. Including my 43 Willy. Jeep lost a multimillion dollar suit, locally (Oakland, Calif) a few years ago, when a guy and his buddy rolled his CJ on a city street and the POS factory rollbar failed and paralyzed the guy for life. The Samurai made the CJ look like a sportscar in regards to handling. |
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Suzuki Outboards
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:20:35 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote: Bill, I had a CJ5, those rollbars were pretty ornamental. I'd soon heard of other CJ's that had rolled and the bars failed. It did teach me one thing, to always wear a seatbelt. Paul Excellent point. If the CJ5 rolls, and the roll bar fails, a seat belt makes finding the crushed body easier. No need to waste a lot of rescue personnel's time looking around for dead bodies. bb |
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:20:35 -0500, "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote: Bill, I had a CJ5, those rollbars were pretty ornamental. I'd soon heard of other CJ's that had rolled and the bars failed. It did teach me one thing, to always wear a seatbelt. Paul Taught me to weld in a roll cage... nice place to hang a radio, too. -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide Years ago, I bought a Myers Manx dune buggy. Beautiful chrome rollbar. Bolted to the fiberglass sides of the body with 5/16" bolts and a small washer. Totally for looks. Did look good. I built a cage for the buggy, did not look as pretty, but did look more functional. Bill |
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