John H wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:51:49 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:

You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

You mean "the dems" that recently ran up the biggest deficit in the shortest time
of any period in history?

DSK

If the dems try to give everything they're promising now, we've seen
nothing yet!

Let's see, free health care for all, free college for all, free drugs
for all, subsidized or free housing for all -- hell, we won't have to
work for anything, it'll all be free!


Isn't that why you joined the military? Free health care, free college,
free prescriptions, subsidized housing...such a deal...was it good for you?
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John H wrote:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:08:09 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message

- hell, we won't have to
work for anything, it'll all be free!

Just hit up those rich folks --


Now *THAT'S* a great idea!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

How delightful...put up a post showing yet another area in which Bush
has failed Americans and all the right-wing asswipes spend the rest of
the day rationalizing it. As usual.

All you have to do is push
this little button ---------- "Bush screwed up ___________."

And just like Pavlov's dogs, they all start drooling.

Woof!

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Harry Krause wrote:

What are you talking about, John? You draw a government pension. That's
about as socialized as it gets.

A government pension is socialism? Your thought process is really
screwed up.

Is that what thinking in color does for you?

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:33:09 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:51:49 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:

You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

You mean "the dems" that recently ran up the biggest deficit in the shortest time
of any period in history?

DSK

If the dems try to give everything they're promising now, we've seen
nothing yet!

Let's see, free health care for all, free college for all, free drugs
for all, subsidized or free housing for all -- hell, we won't have to
work for anything, it'll all be free!


Isn't that why you joined the military? Free health care, free college,
free prescriptions, subsidized housing...such a deal...was it good for you?

I wasn't the son of a multi-millionaire, Harry, I was drafted.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:31:38 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:16:31 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message

......Is that what you do, John? You
work for yourself?

Only for part of the year.

January through about early March, I work to pay for necessary and
worthwhile government functions; March through June I work to pay for
government waste, "entitlements" for whiners, education for non-citizen
illegal aliens, and a distinguished list of additional things to long to
list here; July and August (approximately) I work to pay for the socialized
medicine subsidies built into the med insurance premiums I pay for family
coverage; September through December I pretty much work for myself,
although my kids manage to grab a fair bit of it. :-)


You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

What are you talking about, John? You draw a government pension. That's
about as socialized as it gets.

Except that I had to work for it. That's the big difference, Harry.
Now go back to sleep, you have nothing to contribute.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:33:09 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:51:49 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:

You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

You mean "the dems" that recently ran up the biggest deficit in the shortest time
of any period in history?

DSK

If the dems try to give everything they're promising now, we've seen
nothing yet!

Let's see, free health care for all, free college for all, free drugs
for all, subsidized or free housing for all -- hell, we won't have to
work for anything, it'll all be free!


Isn't that why you joined the military? Free health care, free college,
free prescriptions, subsidized housing...such a deal...was it good for you?

I wasn't the son of a multi-millionaire, Harry, I was drafted.

Oh...how long did your period of conscription last, John?

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John H wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:31:38 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:16:31 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message

......Is that what you do, John? You
work for yourself?

Only for part of the year.

January through about early March, I work to pay for necessary and
worthwhile government functions; March through June I work to pay for
government waste, "entitlements" for whiners, education for non-citizen
illegal aliens, and a distinguished list of additional things to long to
list here; July and August (approximately) I work to pay for the socialized
medicine subsidies built into the med insurance premiums I pay for family
coverage; September through December I pretty much work for myself,
although my kids manage to grab a fair bit of it. :-)


You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

What are you talking about, John? You draw a government pension. That's
about as socialized as it gets.

Except that I had to work for it. That's the big difference, Harry.
Now go back to sleep, you have nothing to contribute.

Work for it?



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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:33:49 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:33:09 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:51:49 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:

You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

You mean "the dems" that recently ran up the biggest deficit in the shortest time
of any period in history?

DSK

If the dems try to give everything they're promising now, we've seen
nothing yet!

Let's see, free health care for all, free college for all, free drugs
for all, subsidized or free housing for all -- hell, we won't have to
work for anything, it'll all be free!


Isn't that why you joined the military? Free health care, free college,
free prescriptions, subsidized housing...such a deal...was it good for you?

I wasn't the son of a multi-millionaire, Harry, I was drafted.

Oh...how long did your period of conscription last, John?

Approximately 17 months.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:34:30 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 20:31:38 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

John H wrote:

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:16:31 -0500, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message

......Is that what you do, John? You
work for yourself?

Only for part of the year.

January through about early March, I work to pay for necessary and
worthwhile government functions; March through June I work to pay for
government waste, "entitlements" for whiners, education for non-citizen
illegal aliens, and a distinguished list of additional things to long to
list here; July and August (approximately) I work to pay for the socialized
medicine subsidies built into the med insurance premiums I pay for family
coverage; September through December I pretty much work for myself,
although my kids manage to grab a fair bit of it. :-)


You (and I) will have to plan on adding Sept and Oct to the "handout
list" if the dems get us socialized the way they'd like.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

What are you talking about, John? You draw a government pension. That's
about as socialized as it gets.

Except that I had to work for it. That's the big difference, Harry.
Now go back to sleep, you have nothing to contribute.

Work for it?

Read much?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"John H" wrote in message

Except that I had to work for it. That's the big difference,

In more ways than one. I recall when I was on active duty (about late 73),
the Pentagon was in process of revamping the retirement system. I knew I
was separating, so it was of little concern to me, but we all attended the
briefings nonetheless.

One figure (as of 1973) that stuck in my mind to this day is this: of all
thirty-year military retirees, only 3% live to age 60. That's a cost of
serving, too.

JG