I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back. I have
know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne

Mark Browne wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back. I have
know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne



I do some fly fishing, mostly in rivers and lakes, but once in a while
in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay. That's what got me thinking that I
needed to move away from live bait altogether.

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Harry Krause wrote:

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.


Why? Is the "live" bait or fish chunks caught by non-union fisherman?
Make sure those jigs are union made.

-- Charlie


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Mark Browne wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back. I
have
know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne



I do some fly fishing, mostly in rivers and lakes, but once in a while
in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay. That's what got me thinking that I
needed to move away from live bait altogether.

Hey guys,

The last time I visited the NASA center on the cape in Florida I stopped by
a park on the water. It looks like the water stays shallow for a long ways
out; I saw a few fish from the shore. Us Minnesota boys don't know what to
make of this type of water!

I was thinking of bringing a folding fly rod on my next visit.

Do you go out in this with waders? Rubber sandals? Barefoot?
Are 'gaters any risk to fishermen on foot?
Does fly fishing work well here?
What is the preferred rig for working this water.
Lastly, is there a web link to Florida fishing laws for us out-of-towers?

Mark Browne

Mark Browne wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Mark Browne wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back. I
have
know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne



I do some fly fishing, mostly in rivers and lakes, but once in a while
in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay. That's what got me thinking that I
needed to move away from live bait altogether.

Hey guys,

The last time I visited the NASA center on the cape in Florida I stopped by
a park on the water. It looks like the water stays shallow for a long ways
out; I saw a few fish from the shore. Us Minnesota boys don't know what to
make of this type of water!

I was thinking of bringing a folding fly rod on my next visit.

Do you go out in this with waders? Rubber sandals? Barefoot?
Are 'gaters any risk to fishermen on foot?
Does fly fishing work well here?
What is the preferred rig for working this water.
Lastly, is there a web link to Florida fishing laws for us out-of-towers?

Mark Browne



If it was a salt water shallows, you might well find redfish, seatrout
and flounder in it. Any flies you have that look like salt water shrimp
or baitfish might work. Almost any local tackle shop could fix you up
with an appropriate fly.

I usually use waterproof sandals when fishing the flats, just to keep my
feet safe from cuts caused by oyster shells and the like, and the
occasional broken bit of glass.

Gators can be aggressive and a problem. There's plenty of info available
about fishing Florida's inshore waters. If you really want to get into
it, get yourself a subscription to Florida Sportsman magazine...and
visit the pub's website, too.

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Gators? Crocodiles are a possibility but very rare. A shark or stray jellyfish
would be his only worry in the surf.

Dan


Harry Krause wrote:

Mark Browne wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Mark Browne wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.


Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back. I

have

know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne



I do some fly fishing, mostly in rivers and lakes, but once in a while
in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay. That's what got me thinking that I
needed to move away from live bait altogether.


Hey guys,

The last time I visited the NASA center on the cape in Florida I stopped by
a park on the water. It looks like the water stays shallow for a long ways
out; I saw a few fish from the shore. Us Minnesota boys don't know what to
make of this type of water!

I was thinking of bringing a folding fly rod on my next visit.

Do you go out in this with waders? Rubber sandals? Barefoot?
Are 'gaters any risk to fishermen on foot?
Does fly fishing work well here?
What is the preferred rig for working this water.
Lastly, is there a web link to Florida fishing laws for us out-of-towers?

Mark Browne




If it was a salt water shallows, you might well find redfish, seatrout
and flounder in it. Any flies you have that look like salt water shrimp
or baitfish might work. Almost any local tackle shop could fix you up
with an appropriate fly.

I usually use waterproof sandals when fishing the flats, just to keep my
feet safe from cuts caused by oyster shells and the like, and the
occasional broken bit of glass.

Gators can be aggressive and a problem. There's plenty of info available
about fishing Florida's inshore waters. If you really want to get into
it, get yourself a subscription to Florida Sportsman magazine...and
visit the pub's website, too.

Dan Krueger wrote:

Gators? Crocodiles are a possibility but very rare. A shark or stray jellyfish
would be his only worry in the surf.

Dan


Harry Krause wrote:

Mark Browne wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Mark Browne wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.


Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back. I

have

know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne



I do some fly fishing, mostly in rivers and lakes, but once in a while
in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay. That's what got me thinking that I
needed to move away from live bait altogether.


Hey guys,

The last time I visited the NASA center on the cape in Florida I stopped by
a park on the water. It looks like the water stays shallow for a long ways
out; I saw a few fish from the shore. Us Minnesota boys don't know what to
make of this type of water!

I was thinking of bringing a folding fly rod on my next visit.

Do you go out in this with waders? Rubber sandals? Barefoot?
Are 'gaters any risk to fishermen on foot?
Does fly fishing work well here?
What is the preferred rig for working this water.
Lastly, is there a web link to Florida fishing laws for us out-of-towers?

Mark Browne




If it was a salt water shallows, you might well find redfish, seatrout
and flounder in it. Any flies you have that look like salt water shrimp
or baitfish might work. Almost any local tackle shop could fix you up
with an appropriate fly.

I usually use waterproof sandals when fishing the flats, just to keep my
feet safe from cuts caused by oyster shells and the like, and the
occasional broken bit of glass.

Gators can be aggressive and a problem. There's plenty of info available
about fishing Florida's inshore waters. If you really want to get into
it, get yourself a subscription to Florida Sportsman magazine...and
visit the pub's website, too.



There are gators in the briny waters of Florida. As an example, the St.
Johns River in NE Florida flows north and then east towards the ocean,
but...it is tidal to past Green Cove Springs, the water is briny, and
you can catch redfish and flounder and trout, all salt water species,
past the Buckman Bridge in Orange Park and beyond, and...there are
gators up many of the briny creeks.

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Gene Kearns wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:51:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Somehow, I'm afraid if I quit using "live" bait I'd adversely affect
the ecology of Long Bay. You see, the fish have become so accustomed
to me feeding them, to stop now would surely have a negative effect on
their diet.


Ahhh...you, too, are part of the Federal Fish Feeding Program. I've been
a member for many years.

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"Mark Browne" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Mark Browne wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait
that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about
even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Harry,

I switched to flyfishing several year ago and have never looked back.
I
have
know idea if it is practical in the area that you live, but wading up
a
steam with a fly rod is about as good as it gets.

Mark Browne



I do some fly fishing, mostly in rivers and lakes, but once in a while
in the shallows of Chesapeake Bay. That's what got me thinking that I
needed to move away from live bait altogether.

Hey guys,

The last time I visited the NASA center on the cape in Florida I stopped
by
a park on the water. It looks like the water stays shallow for a long ways
out; I saw a few fish from the shore. Us Minnesota boys don't know what to
make of this type of water!

I was thinking of bringing a folding fly rod on my next visit.

Do you go out in this with waders? Rubber sandals? Barefoot?
Are 'gaters any risk to fishermen on foot?
Does fly fishing work well here?
What is the preferred rig for working this water.
Lastly, is there a web link to Florida fishing laws for us out-of-towers?

Mark Browne



You will need at least an 8 wt for the salt. Throw Clousers, or a crab fly
in the shallows. Out here in the west, we fish for Rockcod with shooting
heads in up to 15-30' water and for stripers inland with the Clousers and
some poppers. Try www.danblanton.com he has one of the best websites
dedicated to fly fishing, and he has done florida and other salt. Chum up
Blue sharks and sight cast big cheap flys. Just cut off the fly when you
have him to the boat.
Bill