Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:51:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Interesting.

Around Narragansett and environs, you might say it's about 60/40 live
to artificial. If you want the monster stripers, live is the only way
to go, but last year, I hit a 40 inch striper on a salmon streamer
fished off the bottom as a teaser about three feet up from a 24 inch
tube. My biggest on live eel was 30 inches and a rather light fish at
that.

An awful lot of huge stripers here are caught off umbrella rigs with an
array of artificial lures. I've caught my biggest stripers here trolling
a big Mann's artificial plug.



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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:01:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:51:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Interesting.

Around Narragansett and environs, you might say it's about 60/40 live
to artificial. If you want the monster stripers, live is the only way
to go, but last year, I hit a 40 inch striper on a salmon streamer
fished off the bottom as a teaser about three feet up from a 24 inch
tube. My biggest on live eel was 30 inches and a rather light fish at
that.

An awful lot of huge stripers here are caught off umbrella rigs with an
array of artificial lures. I've caught my biggest stripers here trolling
a big Mann's artificial plug.

One of those Mann's "Monster Magnum" plugs? :) I have a 30+ that I
fish off of a wire rig which has been productive along the SW Ledge
off Block Is. and the NW corner of Cox's Ledge where all the barge
wrecks are. I've found that a low, slow approach on one of the braids
works pretty good out there. Inshore, the 20 and 25 I have keep
hanging up.

Ah yes, umbrella rigs. I have a few, but I don't seem to have much
success with them unless I'm fishing shorelines in about 20/30 feet of
water. I also notice that bright green seems to produce better than
any other color. I do use them when I'm trying to cover a lot of
space in the water column and I can put them on outriggers. The one
interesting thing I have noticed about umbrella rigs is using a good
sized ball bearing swivel seems to help catch stripers. Doing some
experiments, it would appear that the swivel allows the rig to move
around like a small bait ball. Kind of counter intuitive, but that's
the way it is.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
The years will bring their Anodyne,
But I shall never quite forget,
The fish that I had counted mine
And lost before they reached the net.

Colin Ellis, "The Devot Angler" quoted
in A. R. Macdougall, Jr's "The Trout
Fisherman's Bedside Book" (1963)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:01:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:51:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I'm going to try to give up using "live" bait or fish chunks (bait that
was once live) and concentrate on using hard lures and plastics. I
started thinking about doing this last season, and started making the
transition towards the end of the year, going back to the lead-headed
jigs with plastic shrimp, and some of the other larger plastics that
served me so well in NE Florida. Last season, from August on, I
experimented in the Bay with the usual dead fish bait one buys at the
bait stores and with plastics, and the fish-caught count was about even
most days.

I might still use chum bags as an attractant, though. Yes, chum is
formerly live bait. But, then, the life of a fisherman isn't binary.

Interesting.

Around Narragansett and environs, you might say it's about 60/40 live
to artificial. If you want the monster stripers, live is the only way
to go, but last year, I hit a 40 inch striper on a salmon streamer
fished off the bottom as a teaser about three feet up from a 24 inch
tube. My biggest on live eel was 30 inches and a rather light fish at
that.

An awful lot of huge stripers here are caught off umbrella rigs with an
array of artificial lures. I've caught my biggest stripers here trolling
a big Mann's artificial plug.

One of those Mann's "Monster Magnum" plugs? :) I have a 30+ that I
fish off of a wire rig which has been productive along the SW Ledge
off Block Is. and the NW corner of Cox's Ledge where all the barge
wrecks are. I've found that a low, slow approach on one of the braids
works pretty good out there. Inshore, the 20 and 25 I have keep
hanging up.

Ah yes, umbrella rigs. I have a few, but I don't seem to have much
success with them unless I'm fishing shorelines in about 20/30 feet of
water. I also notice that bright green seems to produce better than
any other color. I do use them when I'm trying to cover a lot of
space in the water column and I can put them on outriggers. The one
interesting thing I have noticed about umbrella rigs is using a good
sized ball bearing swivel seems to help catch stripers. Doing some
experiments, it would appear that the swivel allows the rig to move
around like a small bait ball. Kind of counter intuitive, but that's
the way it is.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
The years will bring their Anodyne,
But I shall never quite forget,
The fish that I had counted mine
And lost before they reached the net.

Colin Ellis, "The Devot Angler" quoted
in A. R. Macdougall, Jr's "The Trout
Fisherman's Bedside Book" (1963)


I think the one I use is a Stretch 25 or Stretch 25+. I've had it a
while and it works. I don't much like umbrella rigs, but they are very
popular here on Chesapeake Bay. I use one from time to tim, though.

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