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Hi Harry,
Honored I'm sure that you grace this thread with your renouned wisdom. I've enjoyed reading your postings with relish time and time again! I guess that I've figured that there is no "official pricing" on boats, as it is a largely unregulated market, and because many folks don't buy them based on rationality but after getting hooked at a Marina. I can well understand that used prices are not an exact rocket science. Among the zillions of points of view one can envisage, I see two present in this thread which tend to cancel one another out: A. Past prices make up the market, and thus an average of all prices of boats sold is the real used boat price. The premise here is that nobody in their right mind will sell you a comparable boat for substantially less than another one might have sold for in the recent past. This approach is however fundamentally flawed, because it fails to take into account the people involved. Some folks might find it of great value to unload their used boat fast at a very low price. Other folks might never be able to live down the perceived loss of their initial investment and prefer to wait for an imaginary buyer, leaving the task of selling the boat to their heirs upon their demise. So the real market price would be what two rational people, a buyer and a seller, come to agree upon as a fair and "rational" price based upon costs incurred by the initial owner, costs which will be transfered with the purchase to the next owner, with some allowance for emotional attachment of either party distorting the mix. B. Extrapolations of technical and financial parameters establish the value of the boat. Similarly to a cost accounting process, the materials used, their ageing characteristics, their condition, a survey of the boat, its features and options would constitute a rational basis for estimating the value and price of a used boat. This approach also fails to take into account the human factor. We're dealing with emotional and sometimes irrational people who invest their ego and not just their money into boats. We're talking dreams, aspirations, expectations, and even neuroses getting projected into a boat's purchase or sale. This means that in some cases both the buyer and the seller make a deal and each feels that they've been burned. It can also mean, though surely less often, that each party feels that they've made out like bandits with a sweet sweet deal. Selling a used car I once experienced that. It had given me so much trouble I advertised it well under market price. The buyer was so excited he mailed me a check without even seeing the car. He was a happy sailor. I was happy too, I would have paid to get rid of it! So please forgive me if I don't align my checkbook with actual sale prices. Other people paid those prices for their own reasons which may be sensibly different than mine. Prices tend to be "all over the place" especially when, as you justly state, there is no organized used boat market. So I'll keep my own grey cells as my best basis of pricing, whether books, brokers or sellers think otherwise. I guess the real market price I will end up paying (this will then become a "real" past market price) is going to be what I'll be willing to pay = a lot of boat for a lot of money. Best, Rich |
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