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KMAN is stunned (as am I):
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It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.


Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!
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A very wise Canadian (by birth and youth), John Kenneth Galbraith
(later American ambassador to India, among other achievements) once
observed that just about EVERYBODY is an advocate for free enterprise
until such time as it comes to whatever their personal endeavor is.
Then, Galbraith noted, we could all find reasons why OUR particular
little niche in society needed special protection from the rigors of
the marketplace.

Methinks our Scotty reflects just that. Police? A *very* left-wing
approach to policing. Persons with disabilities (he hasn't told us what
his particular connection is to this field)? Money and social/community
support is not object!

Odd, isn't it?

frtzw906

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A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 4/5/05 5:32 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott recommends:
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Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
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Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.


It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.


Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!


Social priorities is not socialism.


Put Scott in charge of the school system, and each person with an
intellectual disability will be mainstreamed with their own personal
teacher! If the school needs 483 teachers for 600 students, so be it! It's a
social priority!


Well, only if they can afford it and are willing to pay for it. I also
recognize that it is the taxpayers who are in charge of things, and if The
People don't set education as a social priority, they have every right to
end up with ignorant children. That's democracy for you!


Now howsabout ensuring access to health care for every child in
America...BEFORE your "a teacher for everyone" program kicks in?


I'm not opposed to providing public health care for poor children. However,
if you can pay for it, or can afford private insurance to cover it, you
should pay for it. Only if you can demonstrably and verifiably not pay for
it should your children get public medical assistance.

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"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
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A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 4/5/05 5:32 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott recommends:
============
Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
============

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.

It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.


Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!


Social priorities is not socialism.


No! But you want to force taxpayers to support social needs!


Put Scott in charge of the school system, and each person with an
intellectual disability will be mainstreamed with their own personal
teacher! If the school needs 483 teachers for 600 students, so be it!
It's a
social priority!


Well, only if they can afford it and are willing to pay for it.


Good luck with that!

I also
recognize that it is the taxpayers who are in charge of things, and if The
People don't set education as a social priority, they have every right to
end up with ignorant children. That's democracy for you!


Great!


Now howsabout ensuring access to health care for every child in
America...BEFORE your "a teacher for everyone" program kicks in?


I'm not opposed to providing public health care for poor children.
However,
if you can pay for it, or can afford private insurance to cover it, you
should pay for it. Only if you can demonstrably and verifiably not pay for
it should your children get public medical assistance.


Good luck with that!


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A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:


"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
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A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 4/5/05 5:32 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott recommends:
============
Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
============

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.

It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.

Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!


Social priorities is not socialism.


No! But you want to force taxpayers to support social needs!


Of course. I'm not an anarchist. "That to secure these liberties,
governments are instituted among men" is not a call to socialism, but it is
a recognition that people must be governed. And for government to function,
the people have to pay for it. Thus, levying taxes is perfectly correct. The
question is WHO authorizes the extraction of taxes to support government
programs, and HOW they go about doing so.



Put Scott in charge of the school system, and each person with an
intellectual disability will be mainstreamed with their own personal
teacher! If the school needs 483 teachers for 600 students, so be it!
It's a
social priority!


Well, only if they can afford it and are willing to pay for it.


Good luck with that!


Then they get ignorant, uncontrollable children. Petard hoist.


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Scott Weiser

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friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

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in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 4/12/05 6:39 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:


"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
...
A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:

in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 4/5/05 5:32 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott recommends:
============
Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
============

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.

It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.

Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!

Social priorities is not socialism.


No! But you want to force taxpayers to support social needs!


Of course. I'm not an anarchist. "That to secure these liberties,
governments are instituted among men" is not a call to socialism, but it is
a recognition that people must be governed. And for government to function,
the people have to pay for it. Thus, levying taxes is perfectly correct. The
question is WHO authorizes the extraction of taxes to support government
programs, and HOW they go about doing so.


Oho. So it's not quite so crystal clear where supporting social needs is
appropriate and where it becomes a horrific commie plot.



Put Scott in charge of the school system, and each person with an
intellectual disability will be mainstreamed with their own personal
teacher! If the school needs 483 teachers for 600 students, so be it!
It's a
social priority!

Well, only if they can afford it and are willing to pay for it.


Good luck with that!


Then they get ignorant, uncontrollable children. Petard hoist.


Is that how we got you?

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KMAN wrote:


Scott recommends:
============
Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
============

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.


It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.



Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!


========================
And here's what's interesting as well. Consider if, in the context of
this discussion of persons with disabilities, I had responded to Scott's
suggestions that, "Tough luck on the parents of the disabled child! They
made the decision to have that child. Why is that *my* problem?! Why
should the classrooms in which my children are required to learn, be
burdened with pupils who are a hindrance and slow up the whole learning
process?"

I don't feel that way. I wouldn't say it.

BUT.... Where does Scott get off showing such empathy for persons with
disabilities when, just a few days ago, in the discussion of universal
health care and the plight of the poor, he took a different tack. I
recall phrases like "Why is it my problem that the poor decided to have
children they couldn't support?!"

WOW! The turmoil in Scott's head over these issues must be intense. Such
logical inconsistency must border on the painful.

frtzw906





Put Scott in charge of the school system, and each person with an
intellectual disability will be mainstreamed with their own personal
teacher! If the school needs 483 teachers for 600 students, so be it! It's a
social priority!

Now howsabout ensuring access to health care for every child in
America...BEFORE your "a teacher for everyone" program kicks in?

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in article Vog5e.919297$Xk.332506@pd7tw3no, frtzw906 at
wrote on 4/7/05 4:06 PM:

KMAN wrote:


Scott recommends:
============
Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
============

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.

It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.



Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!


========================
And here's what's interesting as well. Consider if, in the context of
this discussion of persons with disabilities, I had responded to Scott's
suggestions that, "Tough luck on the parents of the disabled child! They
made the decision to have that child. Why is that *my* problem?! Why
should the classrooms in which my children are required to learn, be
burdened with pupils who are a hindrance and slow up the whole learning
process?"

I don't feel that way. I wouldn't say it.

BUT.... Where does Scott get off showing such empathy for persons with
disabilities when, just a few days ago, in the discussion of universal
health care and the plight of the poor, he took a different tack. I
recall phrases like "Why is it my problem that the poor decided to have
children they couldn't support?!"

WOW! The turmoil in Scott's head over these issues must be intense. Such
logical inconsistency must border on the painful.

frtzw906


His attitudes as displayed during the health care debate certainly seemed
focused on a simple "survival of the fittest" type of attitude. This does
not, it seems to me, fit with his attitude about education, which seems
instead to be a heavily exaggerated type of social engineering.

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A Usenet persona calling itself frtzw906 wrote:

KMAN wrote:


Scott recommends:
============
Hire another teacher or put the disabled students in a Grade 1 math
class.
============

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the budget surplus.

It's not a matter of budgets, it's a matter of social priorities.



Cough. Sputter. Cough

Did SCOTT WEISER just say that?

He's becoming...gasp...a SOCIALIST right before our eyes!!!!


========================
And here's what's interesting as well. Consider if, in the context of
this discussion of persons with disabilities, I had responded to Scott's
suggestions that, "Tough luck on the parents of the disabled child! They
made the decision to have that child. Why is that *my* problem?! Why
should the classrooms in which my children are required to learn, be
burdened with pupils who are a hindrance and slow up the whole learning
process?"

I don't feel that way. I wouldn't say it.


Go ahead and say it, it'll expand your mind.


BUT.... Where does Scott get off showing such empathy for persons with
disabilities when, just a few days ago, in the discussion of universal
health care and the plight of the poor, he took a different tack. I
recall phrases like "Why is it my problem that the poor decided to have
children they couldn't support?!"

WOW! The turmoil in Scott's head over these issues must be intense. Such
logical inconsistency must border on the painful.


Nah. You just don't understand my technique. Not surprising, only the
illuminati do.


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Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

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