"BCITORGB" wrote in message
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rick cites:
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The Health Resource Centre, a 37-bed clinic at 1402 8th Ave.
SW, will only be allowed to work on Canadians covered under the
Workers' Compensation Board insurance, or employees of the
federal government, the military or RCMP.
===============

That was 2002. Are you sure that's still the case? Are you
aware of
Premier Klein's relationship with the feds?

As I'm sure, as an American, you're familiar with state's
rights. Are
you aware of provincial rights? But, more to the point, are you
aware
how federal funding to provnces is affected by deviation from
the
federal healthcare plan?

The relationship we're talking about is not so simple as to be
explained by a 3-year old newspaper article. Given that we're
talking
about Premier Klein, I'm not surprised. What I'm curious about
is if
this situation still exists in 2005.
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Seems pretty simple to me. If you work for the right people you
get to go ahead of the rest. Maybe that's the problem, it's too
simple for some jingoistic apologists, eh?

Looks the same today, but then, you'd never want to bother to
check on that, right?
http://www.pentictonherald.ca/?nopic...ate=2004/09/15
statement from a guy waiting 2 years for knee replacments, and in
now on morphine because of the wait...
"...A friend who had been waiting a long time for lower back
surgery had an accident at work and made a claim to the WCB.
"He gets three MRIs, two CAT scans, and he's in to see the
surgeon within 30 days. They don't want to pay him while he's off
work. They want him in there right away, and they want the claim
settled," said Binfet. The Canada Health Act requires there be
equitable access to care, said Linda Mueller, public affairs
officer with the Ministry of Health Services in Victoria.
However, certain organizations are excluded from the requirements
of the act, she said Tuesday. ICBC is not one of them, but the
WCB, the RCMP and the Canadian Armed Forces are..."


And, to add insult to those waiting, they also use the same
public hospitals with long wait lines as well as private
clinics..
"...the WCB uses public clinics during hours they would normally
be closed as well as private clinics to offer expedited services
to B.C.'s injured workers. The WCB pays specialists a premium for
this service..."
http://www.worksafebc.com/for_health...rs/default.asp




frtzw906

rick asks:
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Looks the same today, but then, you'd never want to bother to
check on that, right?
=================

Well as a matter of fact, I was aware of the armed forces, the RCMP,
and WCB cases. I never denied it in any of my posts. I am not aware,
however, that federal employees other than the armed forces and the
RCMP get such consideration. That's why I asked you for your source.

As to the exceptions you state, I don't necessarily like them, but I
suppose we could make cases for the armed forces and perhaps the RCMP.

I disagree with WCB clients getting preferential treatment. It's a flaw
in the system. Let's fix it.

frtzw906

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
rick asks:
================
Looks the same today, but then, you'd never want to bother to
check on that, right?
=================

Well as a matter of fact, I was aware of the armed forces, the
RCMP,
and WCB cases. I never denied it in any of my posts. I am not
aware,
however, that federal employees other than the armed forces and
the
RCMP get such consideration. That's why I asked you for your
source.

As to the exceptions you state, I don't necessarily like them,
but I
suppose we could make cases for the armed forces and perhaps
the RCMP.

I disagree with WCB clients getting preferential treatment.
It's a flaw
in the system. Let's fix it.
==================
By the way you've been reasoning that means making sure that
everyone again waits weeks, months, years for teatment.
If you were aware of the exceptions, then why have you been
arguing like there were none?



frtzw906

rick reckons:
==============
By the way you've been reasoning that means making sure that
everyone again waits weeks, months, years for teatment.
====================

Not at all. How do you figure that?

rick again:
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If you were aware of the exceptions, then why have you been
arguing like there were none?
===============

Where did you see me arguing as though there were none? Everyone (in BC
anyway, if they follow media reports) is aware of the WCB exemptions,
and many are opposed to it. As I said: a flaw, so let's fix it.

frtzw906

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
ups.com...
rick reckons:
==============
By the way you've been reasoning that means making sure that
everyone again waits weeks, months, years for teatment.
====================

Not at all. How do you figure that?
=================
Because what you really want is for 'special' treatment to end,
thereby making everyone wait like they do now. You aren't going
to 'fix' the problems you have now. That's why these private
clinics are coming into being.



rick again:
===================
If you were aware of the exceptions, then why have you been
arguing like there were none?
===============

Where did you see me arguing as though there were none?
Everyone (in BC
anyway, if they follow media reports) is aware of the WCB
exemptions,
and many are opposed to it. As I said: a flaw, so let's fix it.
==================
You've continued to argue that no one has any special treatment.
That there are no ways to get ahead o the waiting lists.



frtzw906

in article , rick at
wrote on 3/27/05 4:53 PM:


"BCITORGB" wrote in message
ups.com...
rick reckons:
==============
By the way you've been reasoning that means making sure that
everyone again waits weeks, months, years for teatment.
====================

Not at all. How do you figure that?
=================
Because what you really want is for 'special' treatment to end,
thereby making everyone wait like they do now. You aren't going
to 'fix' the problems you have now. That's why these private
clinics are coming into being.

LOL. No, it's because there's an opportunity to make a lot of money,
simpleton.

rick insists:
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Because what you really want is for 'special' treatment to end,
===============

YES I DO! Special treatment undermines the system.


rick maintains:
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You've continued to argue that no one has any special treatment.
That there are no ways to get ahead o the waiting lists.
===============

You've got me confused with someone else.

I've known for years about special treatment for cases like WCB cases.
It's ****ed me off for years.

frtzw906

in article , BCITORGB at
wrote on 3/27/05 6:36 PM:

rick insists:
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Because what you really want is for 'special' treatment to end,
===============

YES I DO! Special treatment undermines the system.


rick maintains:
=============
You've continued to argue that no one has any special treatment.
That there are no ways to get ahead o the waiting lists.
===============

You've got me confused with someone else.

I've known for years about special treatment for cases like WCB cases.
It's ****ed me off for years.

frtzw906

For the record, same here!

On a lighter note, I share with the group a low-res version of a photo that
I call "Melt...Please?"

http://www.wellar.ca/jk/march27sunset.jpg