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A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at wrote on 3/24/05 6:16 PM: A Usenet persona calling itself KMAN wrote: Indeed. Therein lies the root of the problem: expedience and selfishness over the rule of law. I've notice you yourself don't give a damn for the "rule of law" if it doesn't meet your needs. Really? How so? If it became a law that you could not have a gun, how would you feel about that? Evasion. What specific evidence do you have to make the claim "I've noticed you yourself don't give a damn for the 'rule of law' if it doesn't meet your needs"? You have accused me of something, now either substantiate this accusation or be branded a liar. Brand away rick. Er, Scotty. It's clear to me that you wouldn't give a damn about a law that contradicted what Scotty Weiser believes to be his fundamental rights. Based on what evidence, precisely? If some "rule of law" says a child born into poverty should die because they can't get health care, then I say to hell with that rule of law and the society that would support it. But I've never suggested that happen. In fact, I've explicitly stated that society should provide health care to indigent children. So, what's your beef? If that's your position, then what's your beef with Canadian health care? Because it imposes costs on people unwillingly for the medical care of other adults. It requires selfish prigs to contribute their share. You falsely presume that a "share" of some adult's medical problems can be ethically and legitimately imposed on others. Oddly enough, I've never met one Canadian who complains of unwillingly contributing to universal health care. The minuteness of your circle of friends is not determinative of the issue. I am 100% comfortable with viewing health care and education as fundamental human rights, and I will gladly accept the "affirmative burden" that comes with it. Which you are free to do. You are not free, however, to impose that burden on others without their consent. In some societies it is simply something people want. Which people? The Hutus wanted the Tutsis dead. Is that okay with you? No, and it's not OK with me that an idiot like you has a gun either. And yet the Tutsis would have been much better off if they'd had guns, wouldn't they? They'd have been better off not being shot. Many of them weren't shot, they were hacked to death with machetes. They were stoned to death. They were herded into pits and burned to death while alive. They had limbs hacked off. The bellies of pregnant mothers were sliced open and their children were hacked to pieces in front of the mothers as they died. Women were raped wholesale before having their breasts cut off with machetes so that they could never nurse a child again. Do you suppose that if they had all had a gun, that the genocide in Rawanda would have even been possible? Or are you simply too callous and uncaring in your paranoid hoplophobia to admit that sometimes, having a gun can be a good thing. You don't seem to understand that not everyone views helping other people - by supporting fundamental rights such as access to education and healthcare - as a burden. Er, no, you don't understand that the issue is not what some people think, its the deeper, more subtle issues of "rights" and public policy that are merely under discussion. That some people don't mind bearing the burden is not a justification for imposing the burden on those who do. You obviously can't have education and health care (or a fire department) for all if selfish prigs can simply opt out. Sure you can. Charity begins at home. Charity cannot provide universal education and health care. Why not? You are already a prisoner of your selfish beliefs. Not really. This is just a Usenet debate. You appear to be a prisoner of your own prejudices and rhetoric. Ah, I see, whatever you say, no matter how stupid, is just "Usenet debate" so it doesn't count, but whatever others say in the same forum does. What ever made you think that? Your preceding statement. Stupid is as stupid does. -- Regards, Scott Weiser "I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM © 2005 Scott Weiser |
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