On 2/18/05 -rick- nobody wrote:
I think you would be better off not running it dry. Mine hasn't gummed
up in 5 years and has gone several periods of a month or so without use.

Yours is a small Honda?
I don't recall having a prob with my 6hp evinrude but in the case of
my 200hp Mariner, my floats have stuck like glue to the bottom ot the
bowls after the gasoline evaporated over time. Nothing would unstick
them except opening the bowl, reaching in with a finger, and pulling
them loose. After that, I give the bowl and jets a good spraying with
carb cleaner, put it all back together, and I'm good to go.

My Honda dealer also sells Mercury. The tech gave me the impression
that my 20hp Honda is more prone to carb clogging than Mercury because
of the extremely small jet. Personally, I dunno. Sounds reasonable but
that's why I'm asking for opinions from the group.

Thanks for yours
Cheers,
Rick

On 2/19/05, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I always use Sta-bil or a couple
of ounces per gallon of Marvel Mystery Oil for over winter use.

Sounds reasonable but how do you do that? Just dump the stuff in your
fuel tank? Or use a small separate tank just for that purpose?
I guess I could do that but I never know when my last trip of the
season is (cuz it's a 12 month season). but still, there are times
when I might not use a particular motor for several months. I never
know in advance so I'd have to do it after every trip I suppose.....
.... which wouldn't be bad if I had an easy way to do it.
Complications = three different motors, 2 of 'em 2 cycle one of 'em 4,
three different fuel line fittings, etc.
Might give it a go though. If it works it'd be worth it.

Rick

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:35:40 -0600, lid
wrote:

On 2/18/05 -rick- nobody wrote:
I think you would be better off not running it dry. Mine hasn't gummed
up in 5 years and has gone several periods of a month or so without use.

Yours is a small Honda?
I don't recall having a prob with my 6hp evinrude but in the case of
my 200hp Mariner, my floats have stuck like glue to the bottom ot the
bowls after the gasoline evaporated over time. Nothing would unstick
them except opening the bowl, reaching in with a finger, and pulling
them loose. After that, I give the bowl and jets a good spraying with
carb cleaner, put it all back together, and I'm good to go.

My Honda dealer also sells Mercury. The tech gave me the impression
that my 20hp Honda is more prone to carb clogging than Mercury because
of the extremely small jet. Personally, I dunno. Sounds reasonable but
that's why I'm asking for opinions from the group.

Personally, I'd ask him to prove that - doesn't make a lot of sense.

Later,

Tom

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:47:35 -0600, lid
wrote:

On 2/19/05, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I always use Sta-bil or a couple
of ounces per gallon of Marvel Mystery Oil for over winter use.

Sounds reasonable but how do you do that? Just dump the stuff in your
fuel tank? Or use a small separate tank just for that purpose?
I guess I could do that but I never know when my last trip of the
season is (cuz it's a 12 month season). but still, there are times
when I might not use a particular motor for several months. I never
know in advance so I'd have to do it after every trip I suppose.....
... which wouldn't be bad if I had an easy way to do it.
Complications = three different motors, 2 of 'em 2 cycle one of 'em 4,
three different fuel line fittings, etc.
Might give it a go though. If it works it'd be worth it.

Sta-Bil works with all motors - just pour it in the gas. It's very
easy to do every time you add gas and if you go a little over or
under, it's not a big deal.

It will save you bucks in the long run.

Later,

Tom

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On 2/18/05, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Honda rep visited. He asked if
there was going to be a Honda school or in-service seminar and the
Honda rep said (as reported) "Honda's never break - there's no need
for schools".

LoL!... funny. Must have been a rep from their sales division. Sounds
like a typical response meaning, "I don't know" or "Let's change the
subject".

Went back by the dealer today and asked for a parts catalog.
Basically got the run around and a long involved excuse encompassing
everything from Federal EPA regulations to liability concerns ...
oddly enough he didn't mention possible warranty violations like I
expected. But they finally gave me the phone number for Honda's
Cusomer Relations Dept. So I called the number, drilled down through
a recorded menu, and was eventually told in the taped message that a
parts catalog can be ordered through any dealer LoL! So now I'm back
to square one. I guess now I'll try a different dealer. Maybe even let
'em listen to Honda's own menu. We'll see what happens next.

Rick

Have you tried their website? http://www.honda-marine.com

I just visited their site and they seem to have service manuals for sale
there (or at least a link to where you can get it).

Sergio

We have a Honda mechanic on the CS Group and he has, a number of times,
cautioned the Honda owners about the smaller jets on those engines. RichG TX
--
RichG manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:35:40 -0600, lid
wrote:

On 2/18/05 -rick- nobody wrote:
I think you would be better off not running it dry. Mine hasn't gummed
up in 5 years and has gone several periods of a month or so without use.

Yours is a small Honda?
I don't recall having a prob with my 6hp evinrude but in the case of
my 200hp Mariner, my floats have stuck like glue to the bottom ot the
bowls after the gasoline evaporated over time. Nothing would unstick
them except opening the bowl, reaching in with a finger, and pulling
them loose. After that, I give the bowl and jets a good spraying with
carb cleaner, put it all back together, and I'm good to go.

My Honda dealer also sells Mercury. The tech gave me the impression
that my 20hp Honda is more prone to carb clogging than Mercury because
of the extremely small jet. Personally, I dunno. Sounds reasonable but
that's why I'm asking for opinions from the group.

Personally, I'd ask him to prove that - doesn't make a lot of sense.

Later,

Tom

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:25:46 GMT, "RichG"
wrote:

We have a Honda mechanic on the CS Group and he has, a number of times,
cautioned the Honda owners about the smaller jets on those engines. RichG TX

Interesting.

Thanks for the info.

Later,

Tom

On 2/19/05 "Sergio Ramirez" wrote:
Have you tried their website? http://www.honda-marine.com

Thanks yep. The site says you can download this or that but when you
follow the instructions, you end up at a dead end (no download
button/link). I've just assumed their site is still under construction
and they haven't put their active links in yet.
If you can figure out how to do what they say you can do, lemme know.
The site confirms what the telephone menu says though. I'm supposed to
be able to order a parts catalog though any dealer. I'll try that next
week if I can't figure out how to download one by then.
Thanks again
Rick

lid wrote:
On 2/18/05 -rick- nobody wrote:

I think you would be better off not running it dry. Mine hasn't gummed
up in 5 years and has gone several periods of a month or so without use.


Yours is a small Honda?
I don't recall having a prob with my 6hp evinrude but in the case of
my 200hp Mariner, my floats have stuck like glue to the bottom ot the
bowls after the gasoline evaporated over time. Nothing would unstick
them except opening the bowl, reaching in with a finger, and pulling
them loose. After that, I give the bowl and jets a good spraying with
carb cleaner, put it all back together, and I'm good to go.

My Honda dealer also sells Mercury. The tech gave me the impression
that my 20hp Honda is more prone to carb clogging than Mercury because
of the extremely small jet. Personally, I dunno. Sounds reasonable but
that's why I'm asking for opinions from the group.

Thanks for yours
Cheers,
Rick



Sorry I wasn't clear, it is a 2000 15hp Honda. I use it as a
kicker/trolling motor. As Tom (short-wave) noted it's also good to treat
the tank with Sta-bil for storage.

Regards,
-rick-

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:57:14 -0600, lid
wrote:

Bought this motor last summer and have about 10-12 hours on it. Guess
I didn't get all the fuel out last time I used it so now the carb jet
is clogged (so says the dealer technician). The tech tells me it's the
only real prob with these motors for some reason or other, even when
you *think* you've run the carb dry, it's not really all outta there
(funny the salesman didn't mention it last summer), and it'll take him
a couple of hours at $75 per hour to remove the carb and clean it.

Honda hired my services to address this very problem, which I am happy
to say, has been fixed. I am not allowed to share my work done with
Honda, due to cofidentallity agreements, so simply contact your Honda
dealer for the recall info.