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jps January 14th 04 05:17 PM

Fixing the NG
 
In article ,
says...

As a conservative's conservative who does vote in the United States


You are unique. If truly a conservative, you're among a handful I've
witnessed with the ability (and propensity) to be self deprecating.

I honestly thought you were left of center based on your (very
entertaining) posts and thought awareness of self was an exclusively
left thing.

Clearly, I was wrong.

Unless you're yanking our rodes.

jps

Jim-- January 14th 04 05:18 PM

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"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

I intend defending myself & what I say,


About things which you know little or nothing...


Why do you continue with the one line insults?



It's a new year! January 14th 04 05:46 PM

Fixing the NG
 
jps,
What do you think about ignoring the OT posts and seeing if we can get a NG
that is more related to boating? I can tell you enjoy baiting those you
disagree politically, but there are a ton of NG you can have heated
political discussions. It would be interesting to see what people talked
about if we stopped talking politics.


"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

As a conservative's conservative who does vote in the United States


You are unique. If truly a conservative, you're among a handful I've
witnessed with the ability (and propensity) to be self deprecating.

I honestly thought you were left of center based on your (very
entertaining) posts and thought awareness of self was an exclusively
left thing.

Clearly, I was wrong.

Unless you're yanking our rodes.

jps




It's a new year! January 14th 04 05:50 PM

Fixing the NG
 
The reason jps uses one line insults is because that is what most people do
in rec.boats. They have a chance to have a lively discussion and some
people get a thrill out of making someone else look foolish, in reality when
you are wrestling with a pig everyone gets dirty and the pig enjoys it.

If the NG is going to change, each individual is going to have to decide he
is going to ignore those things that are destroying this NG.

I read in one of Chuck's posts that you sold your boat, is that true?

If so what did you have and why did you sell it?


"Jim--" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

I intend defending myself & what I say,


About things which you know little or nothing...


Why do you continue with the one line insults?





Jim-- January 14th 04 06:02 PM

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"It's a new year!" wrote in message
news:7kfNb.49753$Rc4.199978@attbi_s54...
The reason jps uses one line insults is because that is what most people

do
in rec.boats. They have a chance to have a lively discussion and some
people get a thrill out of making someone else look foolish, in reality

when
you are wrestling with a pig everyone gets dirty and the pig enjoys it.

If the NG is going to change, each individual is going to have to decide

he
is going to ignore those things that are destroying this NG.

I read in one of Chuck's posts that you sold your boat, is that true?

If so what did you have and why did you sell it?


Yes, we sold it. We had been in boating for over 25 years. The boat was
sold for 2 reasons:

1. My wife is suffering from a debilitating neurological disorder in her
legs making it difficult to walk. Walking down the ramp to the boat, then
getting into the boat was becoming increasingly difficult for her.

2. Our son and daughter started to show little interest in the boat.
Instead of spending weekends on the boat with us they would rather be with
their friends.

When both kids are out of college (hopefully 7 years from now) we plan to
purchase a house on the water. We will then get back into boating, probably
going with something smaller...perhaps a 27 footer. This, of course,
assumes that my wife's medical condition does not continue to deteriorate.

Thanks for asking. ;-)



jps January 14th 04 08:28 PM

Fixing the NG
 
In article _ffNb.52177$nt4.83960@attbi_s51, says...
jps,
What do you think about ignoring the OT posts and seeing if we can get a NG
that is more related to boating? I can tell you enjoy baiting those you
disagree politically, but there are a ton of NG you can have heated
political discussions. It would be interesting to see what people talked
about if we stopped talking politics.


I'll make you a deal. You reveal all your sigs for the last three years
I'll stop OT posting for a month.

jps

It's a new year! January 14th 04 09:45 PM

Fixing the NG
 
jps,
I am not suggesting anyone leave the group, I just thought Chuck's
suggestion was a good one. If you enjoy the theme and tone of the we
currently have, then there is no reason to change.

Have a good day.


"jps" wrote in message
...
In article _ffNb.52177$nt4.83960@attbi_s51, says...
jps,
What do you think about ignoring the OT posts and seeing if we can get a

NG
that is more related to boating? I can tell you enjoy baiting those you
disagree politically, but there are a ton of NG you can have heated
political discussions. It would be interesting to see what people

talked
about if we stopped talking politics.


I'll make you a deal. You reveal all your sigs for the last three years
I'll stop OT posting for a month.

jps




jps January 14th 04 11:05 PM

Fixing the NG
 
In article pMiNb.54056$nt4.84393@attbi_s51, says...

I'll make you a deal. You reveal all your sigs for the last three years
I'll stop OT posting for a month.

jps



jps,
I am not suggesting anyone leave the group, I just thought Chuck's
suggestion was a good one. If you enjoy the theme and tone of the we
currently have, then there is no reason to change.



I didn't say leave. I said that I'd stop posting off-topic for a month
if you agree to list all your sigs over the last three years.

Mad Dog Dave January 14th 04 11:45 PM

Fixing the NG
 
jps wrote in message . ..
In article ,
says...

As a conservative's conservative who does vote in the United States


You are unique. If truly a conservative, you're among a handful I've
witnessed with the ability (and propensity) to be self deprecating.

I honestly thought you were left of center based on your (very
entertaining) posts and thought awareness of self was an exclusively
left thing.

Clearly, I was wrong.

Unless you're yanking our rodes.

jps


No, I'm a conservative, but apparently not a 21st Century Republican
Conservative. I voted for Bush the last time out. It was difficult for
me because I didn';t trust him much and I didn't think he was overly
smart. I would have preferred McCain. I have a lot of problems with
the way Bush has turned out, especially in his budget-busting and in
his foreign policy but he also makes me nervous with his expanion of
police powers. No true conservative wants to see police powers
expanded in the kind of democracy we have had until now. Frankly I
just don't trust Bush.

I don't know what I will do this fall. Hold my nose and vote for Bush
or not vote for president or, gasp, vote for the democrat, if he turns
out to be a reasonable middle of the road type? I wish a true thinking
conservative would enter the races, but Bush surely has the GOP
nomination.

Maybe we need viable third and fourth parties.

jps January 15th 04 12:25 AM

Fixing the NG
 
In article ,
says...
jps wrote in message . ..
In article ,
says...

As a conservative's conservative who does vote in the United States


You are unique. If truly a conservative, you're among a handful I've
witnessed with the ability (and propensity) to be self deprecating.

I honestly thought you were left of center based on your (very
entertaining) posts and thought awareness of self was an exclusively
left thing.

Clearly, I was wrong.

Unless you're yanking our rodes.

jps


No, I'm a conservative, but apparently not a 21st Century Republican
Conservative. I voted for Bush the last time out. It was difficult for
me because I didn';t trust him much and I didn't think he was overly
smart. I would have preferred McCain. I have a lot of problems with
the way Bush has turned out, especially in his budget-busting and in
his foreign policy but he also makes me nervous with his expanion of
police powers. No true conservative wants to see police powers
expanded in the kind of democracy we have had until now. Frankly I
just don't trust Bush.

I don't know what I will do this fall. Hold my nose and vote for Bush
or not vote for president or, gasp, vote for the democrat, if he turns
out to be a reasonable middle of the road type? I wish a true thinking
conservative would enter the races, but Bush surely has the GOP
nomination.

Maybe we need viable third and fourth parties.


The Greens just ain't gonna do it. Karl Rove and Grover Norquist want
to make it a one party system.

If I were you I'd consider Dean. He's been painted as a "liberal" but
he sure seems a hell of a lot more conservative than liberal to me.

If you're a fiscal conservative and a social moderate-to-liberal, Dean
may fit your bill. But, you did describe yourself as a conservative's
conservative...that could mean you're also a social conservative which,
based on your writing, doesn't seem to fit. Perhaps what you were
saying is that you're a *real* conservative, the type that existed prior
to the term being co-opted by a group of cynical liars who wear the
moniker but embody none of the principles. If *conservative* still had
it's dictionary definition, I'd certainly consider myself conservative
in many regards.

I'm with you on McCain. If I had the choice of another wimpy Dem and
McCain, I may "hold my nose" and vote for the guy who'd run an
administration based on policy, not on politics. The group in there now
make the previous administration look like pikers when it comes to
deceit.

I do believe, on the whole, Clinton had the country's best interests in
mind. This Bush group just couldn't give a **** for anything but
business and staying in power.

jps


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