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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.




Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?




Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the
inconviences I almost long for those days.

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children
will
have to
live in.

Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the
christian
right.


You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals
Yes, indeed.

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.


How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.?






Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?

Do you know the definition of fornication?






Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the
inconviences I almost long for those days.

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children
will
have to
live in.

Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the
christian
right.


You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals
Yes, indeed.


And to suit your end of the discussion.

You forgot to answer this last question (you again snipped it from your
reply). Here is a repost:

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will
have to
live in.

Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian
right.


You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals, so I will
paste it here for you to read again:
-----
There were bad things and good things about those times. I don't know if I
could ever live without the comforts and technology of today. I don't know
how folks survived without running water, hot water on demand, electricity,
cars, etc.....but they somehow survived. Medical knowledge and technology
was also no where near what we have today and thus average life spans were
in the 50 or 60 year ranges. Now they are in the 70 to 80 year range, at
least in the US.

On the other hand we seem to have lost our moral and family values, now
almost things of the past. One only has to look at the percentage of
children being born out of wedlock (almost 80% in the black community and
almost 25% in the white community). A young single mother with child,
especially in her teens, is almost a ticket to poverty. Add to that
increasing crime rates, lack of decency on the airwaves and the music being
sold and we have indeed become a nation without moral value.

Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the
inconviences I almost long for those days.

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to
live in.
-----

So which world is/was repressed by the Christian right? Then or now?

JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a
woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches
and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.


How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.?

How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch.
Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And
yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides
what you wanted to understand?






Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at
all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their
grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include?
Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?

Do you know the definition of fornication?

Yes.






Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite
the
inconviences I almost long for those days.

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children
will
have to
live in.

Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the
christian
right.


You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals
Yes, indeed.


And to suit your end of the discussion.

No, because it's not relevent. Morals are in the eye of the beholder.

You forgot to answer this last question (you again snipped it from
your
reply). Here is a repost:

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children
will
have to
live in.

Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the
christian
right.


You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals, so I
will
paste it here for you to read again:
-----
There were bad things and good things about those times. I don't
know if I
could ever live without the comforts and technology of today. I
don't know
how folks survived without running water, a
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onmouseover="window.status='hot water on demand'; return true;"
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electricity,
cars, etc.....but they somehow survived. Medical knowledge and
technology
was also no where near what we have today and thus average life spans
were
in the 50 or 60 year ranges. Now they are in the 70 to 80 year
range, at
least in the US.

On the other hand we seem to have lost our moral and family values,
now
almost things of the past. One only has to look at the percentage of
children being born out of wedlock (almost 80% in the black community
and
almost 25% in the white community). A young single mother with
child,
especially in her teens, is almost a ticket to poverty. Add to that
increasing crime rates, lack of decency on the airwaves and the music
being
sold and we have indeed become a nation without moral value.

Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the
inconviences I almost long for those days.

And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will
have to
live in.
-----

So which world is/was repressed by the Christian right? Then or now?
The world that we live on.

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a
woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches
and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.


How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.?

How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch.
Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And
yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides
what you wanted to understand?






Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at
all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their
grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include?
Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?

Do you know the definition of fornication?

Yes.


I don't think so. Nice try.

JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a
woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned
to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be
witches
and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.


How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem,
Mass.?

How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a
witch.
Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And
yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history
besides
what you wanted to understand?






Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating
at
all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still
is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their
grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include?
Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?

Do you know the definition of fornication?

Yes.


I don't think so. Nice try.
Please, learn to comprehend what you've read. I said YES

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a
woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned
to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be
witches
and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.


How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem,
Mass.?

How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a
witch.
Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And
yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history
besides
what you wanted to understand?






Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating
at
all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still
is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their
grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include?
Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?

Do you know the definition of fornication?

Yes.


I don't think so. Nice try.
Please, learn to comprehend what you've read. I said YES


You certainly would not have stated that Catholic children are born as a
result of fornication if you knew the definition of the word.

Don't feel bad as Krause obviously did not know the meaning of the word also
as he did not know of a Commandment prohibiting it.

Nice try Bassy but no cigar.

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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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Harry Krause wrote:
Apostle Keith Williams wrote:
Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex
until married?

Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself.



No, I don't. Thank god.

Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when,
if a
woman
spoke
out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to
death.

If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and
stoned
to
death? I
don't recall reading about that. When and where was that
happening?

Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place?

So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be
witches
and
were
then stoned to death?

Yes. Absolutely.


How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem,
Mass.?

How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a
witch.
Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions.
And
yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history
besides
what you wanted to understand?






Or let's go back to the "good old days" when
fornicating
at
all
was
considered a deadly sin.

You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still
is.
Were
the 10
Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen?

I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened
their
grip,
and
are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation.

Really? Specifically what religions would that include?
Certainly
not the
Catholic Religion.

Really? Then where do Catholic children come from?

Do you know the definition of fornication?

Yes.


I don't think so. Nice try.
Please, learn to comprehend what you've read. I said YES


You certainly would not have stated that Catholic children are born
as a
result of fornication if you knew the definition of the word.

Why? Oh, I see! YOU are getting LEGAL marriage confused with CHRISTIAN
marriage.

Don't feel bad as Krause obviously did not know the meaning of the
word also
as he did not know of a Commandment prohibiting it.

Nice try Bassy but no cigar.

I don't feel bad, I knew you were getting the two confused all along.
Nice try, Jimmy, but no cigar.