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NOYB January 9th 04 03:05 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Gould 0738 wrote:
Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired

with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin

when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they

put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, a

Lie?

I said the ad did not appear in the media.

Please let me know where the item has appeared as an actual

campaign
tool, and
I will retract my statement. If you have no knowlegde of the item
appearing in
the press, you have no business calling me a liar.

AFAIK, the only place the ad appeared was on the moveon.org

website,
among a
group of other ads submitted for consideration.




Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W.

Bush,
live and in color on all channels...

I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a)

to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.





Doubtful...the ads I got to preview today in storyboard form show the
similarities between a number of Bush's actions and actions of certain
fascist states of recent memory in efforts to restrict the freedom of
citizens.


Good. The moveon.org Hitler/Bush ad created a helluva backlash. People
*like* Bush. Attacking him as a person is a sure way to alienate the

70% of
the people that "like him as a person".




They're fundraising commercials. There are certain language
similarities, even, in some of the Bush Administration's actions to
limit freedoms with the language used against the citizens of

Argentina,
Chile, Spain, and former Soviet bloc states.


Most "undecideds" couldn't even name three of the former Soviet bloc

states.
You might think that "undecided" means that someone is thoughtfully
considering all of the candidates...but, in reality, "undecided" can be
translated to mean "I have no idea because I don't follow politics and

the
issues".


I'm sorry, but the fascist ruminations of a 30-year-old dentist who went
from mommy's apron strings to college to dental school to a life of ease
in South Florida are meaningless. Let me know when life has dealt you a
few serious blows and you develop a bit of compassion for humanity, eh?


Compassion has nothing to do with analyzing how a group of people will vote.
If it did, the Democrat strategists wouldn't exploit minorities, the poor,
single moms, and the uninsured, and turn them into political pawns.

You can try to divert the issue by talking about *my* life...but it doesn't
change the fact that, in the end, most "undecideds" vote for the more
"likeable" guy. I figured you would have learned first-hand in highschool
that attacking the "in" crowd just makes you the "outcast". It does nothing
to tarnish the image of the popular folk.







NOYB January 9th 04 03:07 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On 8 Jan 2004 17:32:40 -0800, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

(Gould 0738) wrote in message

...
Of course, the fact that one of the commercials plainly said
"sponsored by moveon.org" at the end of the ad seems to have slipped
by your blinders. I love it when you guys forget the facts.

The *fact* is that the ads didn't run in the media.. They were two ads

out of a
much larger group of ads that were submitted to moveon.org as proposals

to
consider for the upcomiong campaign.

It's no different than some redneck getting on a talk show and saying

equally
ridiculous and hateful things about moderates or liberals. Are your

radio hosts
liable for every opinion that their callers express on the air?


Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, and now they are backing off it...


Gould ain't stoopid. He knows they approved the posting of the
commercials.

Gould ain't stoopid, just disingenuous.


I haven't been paying attention to Chuck's ramblings on this. Is he
*really* claiming the ad was run by an independent individual without the
blessing of moveon.org and the Democratic Party? I find it hard to believe
that he'd be that naive...






Harry Krause January 9th 04 03:09 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
NOYB wrote:

You can try to divert the issue by talking about *my* life...but it doesn't
change the fact that, in the end, most "undecideds" vote for the more
"likeable" guy. I figured you would have learned first-hand in highschool
that attacking the "in" crowd just makes you the "outcast". It does nothing
to tarnish the image of the popular folk.



You ain't the "in-crowd," Twerpy.


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NOYB January 9th 04 03:17 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

You can try to divert the issue by talking about *my* life...but it

doesn't
change the fact that, in the end, most "undecideds" vote for the more
"likeable" guy. I figured you would have learned first-hand in

highschool
that attacking the "in" crowd just makes you the "outcast". It does

nothing
to tarnish the image of the popular folk.



You ain't the "in-crowd," Twerpy.


"Twerpy"? You're still taking pot-shots at the "in-crowd" by name-calling?

Besides an occasional "swirlie", did any grave physical harm result from
your taunts when you were in school? I would have guessed that you finally
realized you weren't "cool" when you saw the other guys sneaking out of the
sorority house in the morning...while you delivered bagels. Of course,
you're so intentionally obtuse sometimes, you probably assumed the smiles
from the girls was a form of flirtation. Didn't the eruption of laughter as
the door closed behind you tip you off that something wasn't Kosher?













Harry Krause January 9th 04 03:30 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

You can try to divert the issue by talking about *my* life...but it

doesn't
change the fact that, in the end, most "undecideds" vote for the more
"likeable" guy. I figured you would have learned first-hand in

highschool
that attacking the "in" crowd just makes you the "outcast". It does

nothing
to tarnish the image of the popular folk.



You ain't the "in-crowd," Twerpy.


"Twerpy"? You're still taking pot-shots at the "in-crowd" by name-calling?

Besides an occasional "swirlie", did any grave physical harm result from
your taunts when you were in school? I would have guessed that you finally
realized you weren't "cool" when you saw the other guys sneaking out of the
sorority house in the morning...while you delivered bagels. Of course,
you're so intentionally obtuse sometimes, you probably assumed the smiles
from the girls was a form of flirtation. Didn't the eruption of laughter as
the door closed behind you tip you off that something wasn't Kosher?



Huffing that gas again, eh, twerpie?

I mostly paid my own way through undergrad college, and delivering
doughnuts was only one of my many jobs. I also took average to better
than average photos for the school newspaper and yearbook (and met lots
of dates that way), picked up and delivered dry cleaning, delivered
flyers, whatever. Undergrad college was cheap in those days, and a
couple of meaningless jobs would get your ticket punched. I earned
enough to also support an old wreck of a Chevy *and* a slighter better
but well-used Honda Dream motorcycle, the one with the fenders that
seemed to be made out of old Japanese beer cans.

My third of college, I was hired for the summer as a reporter by a
newspaper, and I kept that job through graduation.

So...while I was paying my way, *you* were sucking down checks from
mommy and daddy, right? Are you still?

Also in my third year, I was living with a young lady student who worked
weekend evenings as a bunny at the KC Playboy Club. Cute gal, tall, with
absolutely fabulous teats. Not huge, just perfect.

What were you doing your third year of college? Sniffing the intestinal
gas of the other boys in the frat house?


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Rick January 9th 04 03:34 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
The head scratching is probably yours, trying to figure out
what I meant.

There are very good reasons why Bush is more and more often
compared to Hitler by more an more people in more and more
countries.

Rick


Harry Krause January 9th 04 03:37 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
Rick wrote:

The head scratching is probably yours, trying to figure out
what I meant.

There are very good reasons why Bush is more and more often
compared to Hitler by more an more people in more and more
countries.

Rick


The RepublicanBORG do not understand those they cannot assimilate, Rick.

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NOYB January 9th 04 03:44 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

You can try to divert the issue by talking about *my* life...but it

doesn't
change the fact that, in the end, most "undecideds" vote for the more
"likeable" guy. I figured you would have learned first-hand in

highschool
that attacking the "in" crowd just makes you the "outcast". It does

nothing
to tarnish the image of the popular folk.


You ain't the "in-crowd," Twerpy.


"Twerpy"? You're still taking pot-shots at the "in-crowd" by

name-calling?

Besides an occasional "swirlie", did any grave physical harm result from
your taunts when you were in school? I would have guessed that you

finally
realized you weren't "cool" when you saw the other guys sneaking out of

the
sorority house in the morning...while you delivered bagels. Of course,
you're so intentionally obtuse sometimes, you probably assumed the

smiles
from the girls was a form of flirtation. Didn't the eruption of

laughter as
the door closed behind you tip you off that something wasn't Kosher?



Huffing that gas again, eh, twerpie?

I mostly paid my own way through undergrad college, and delivering
doughnuts was only one of my many jobs. I also took average to better
than average photos for the school newspaper and yearbook (and met lots
of dates that way), picked up and delivered dry cleaning, delivered
flyers, whatever. Undergrad college was cheap in those days, and a
couple of meaningless jobs would get your ticket punched. I earned
enough to also support an old wreck of a Chevy *and* a slighter better
but well-used Honda Dream motorcycle, the one with the fenders that
seemed to be made out of old Japanese beer cans.

My third of college, I was hired for the summer as a reporter by a
newspaper, and I kept that job through graduation.

So...while I was paying my way, *you* were sucking down checks from
mommy and daddy, right?


Nope. Stafford loans. Still have 26 years to pay 'em off.

Are you still?


Never did.



Also in my third year, I was living with a young lady student who worked
weekend evenings as a bunny at the KC Playboy Club. Cute gal, tall, with
absolutely fabulous teats. Not huge, just perfect.

What were you doing your third year of college? Sniffing the intestinal
gas of the other boys in the frat house?


I was probably screwing girls your daughter's age. Where were they in 1991
and 1992? Did they ever make any trips to West Lafayette?






Harry Krause January 9th 04 03:47 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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What were you doing your third year of college? Sniffing the intestinal
gas of the other boys in the frat house?


I was probably screwing girls your daughter's age. Where were they in 1991
and 1992? Did they ever make any trips to West Lafayette?


Well, when you die at a ripe old age, at least you can recall,
hopefully, your one brief moment in the sun in Indiana.

I used to go to South Bend, Indiana every summer to teach a couple of
classes at a seminar. The campus was lovely, but Indiana sucked - big
time. Blech.



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NOYB January 9th 04 04:04 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


What were you doing your third year of college? Sniffing the intestinal
gas of the other boys in the frat house?


I was probably screwing girls your daughter's age. Where were they in

1991
and 1992? Did they ever make any trips to West Lafayette?


Well, when you die at a ripe old age, at least you can recall,
hopefully, your one brief moment in the sun in Indiana.

I used to go to South Bend, Indiana every summer to teach a couple of
classes at a seminar. The campus was lovely, but Indiana sucked - big
time. Blech.


Can't argue with you there. Bloomington was OK...I only attended IU
bloomington for one year, however. It was close to Brown County, which was
wonderful in the fall when the leaves started to change color. The Amish
influence made it a very warm and inviting little town. I lived in
Northwest Indiana, about 45 miles south of Chicago...and 15 miles south of
Lake Michigan. South Bend was about 45 minutes to my East. I travelled
there on occasion to visit a girl attending St. Mary's, and for a couple of
Fighting Irish games. It was also where I took the GMAT and the Dental
Admission test. As for Purdue...West Lafayette's only redeeming quality was
that it was close to Indianapolis, and not too far from home.

Before moving to Indiana in '87, I lived in NJ. NJ wasn't bad...sort of a
mini California (beach, "mountains", big city near by, etc). The weather
sucked however.

Given a choice of setting up practice in either of those two states along
Route 80, you can imagine why I chose to move to Florida.







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