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Harry Krause January 9th 04 02:02 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
Gould 0738 wrote:
Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, a


Lie?

I said the ad did not appear in the media.

Please let me know where the item has appeared as an actual campaign tool, and
I will retract my statement. If you have no knowlegde of the item appearing in
the press, you have no business calling me a liar.

AFAIK, the only place the ad appeared was on the moveon.org website, among a
group of other ads submitted for consideration.




Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W. Bush,
live and in color on all channels...



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NOYB January 9th 04 02:11 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, a


Lie?

I said the ad did not appear in the media.

Please let me know where the item has appeared as an actual campaign

tool, and
I will retract my statement. If you have no knowlegde of the item

appearing in
the press, you have no business calling me a liar.

AFAIK, the only place the ad appeared was on the moveon.org website,

among a
group of other ads submitted for consideration.




Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W. Bush,
live and in color on all channels...


I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a) to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.





Harry Krause January 9th 04 02:20 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, a

Lie?

I said the ad did not appear in the media.

Please let me know where the item has appeared as an actual campaign

tool, and
I will retract my statement. If you have no knowlegde of the item

appearing in
the press, you have no business calling me a liar.

AFAIK, the only place the ad appeared was on the moveon.org website,

among a
group of other ads submitted for consideration.




Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W. Bush,
live and in color on all channels...


I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a) to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.





Doubtful...the ads I got to preview today in storyboard form show the
similarities between a number of Bush's actions and actions of certain
fascist states of recent memory in efforts to restrict the freedom of
citizens. They're fundraising commercials. There are certain language
similarities, even, in some of the Bush Administration's actions to
limit freedoms with the language used against the citizens of Argentina,
Chile, Spain, and former Soviet bloc states.

Your love of fascism...in full bloom, as it were, and I don't mean Leopold.



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Charles January 9th 04 02:27 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 


Harry Krause wrote:

Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W. Bush,
live and in color on all channels...


Will your nursemaid be laying in a stock of tissues to clean up the
messes you'll be making?

Your hard-on for the president is sick.

-- Charlie


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Rick January 9th 04 02:39 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
NOYB wrote:

I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a) to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.


Given the regard Bush and his criminal handlers have for the
niceties of law and the Constitution you just might get
your wish.

I can foresee the Bush mob reacting to dropping poll numbers
by declaring martial law and "postponing" elections due to a
mysterious fire in the Reichstag.

Rick



Harry Krause January 9th 04 02:43 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
Rick wrote:

NOYB wrote:

I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a) to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.


Given the regard Bush and his criminal handlers have for the
niceties of law and the Constitution you just might get
your wish.

I can foresee the Bush mob reacting to dropping poll numbers
by declaring martial law and "postponing" elections due to a
mysterious fire in the Reichstag.

Rick




Bears repeating:


An editorial from the Wisconsin State Journal
January 8, 2004

The United States Department of Labor announced this week that, over the
course of last year, American businesses cut 1,236,426 jobs in 2003,
exposing the lie of President Bush's so-called economic "recovery."

Far from easing up, the cuts increased as 2003 went on - the final
quarter of the year saw 364,346 job cut announcements, making it the
worst quarter for such announcements in 2003.

"(It) is difficult to get too excited about a year in which more than
1.2 million people fell victim to downsizing," says employment analyst
John Challenger.

We agree. Indeed, if the Bush "recovery" heats up much more, we wonder
whether anyone will have a job.

Published: 6:22 AM 1/08/04

----------------------------


The crappy economy and the continuing death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan
in Bush's personal war will have an impact. Most Americans view the
health of the economy in terms of jobs and job security.



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NOYB January 9th 04 02:44 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they

put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, a

Lie?

I said the ad did not appear in the media.

Please let me know where the item has appeared as an actual campaign

tool, and
I will retract my statement. If you have no knowlegde of the item

appearing in
the press, you have no business calling me a liar.

AFAIK, the only place the ad appeared was on the moveon.org website,

among a
group of other ads submitted for consideration.




Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W.

Bush,
live and in color on all channels...


I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a) to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.





Doubtful...the ads I got to preview today in storyboard form show the
similarities between a number of Bush's actions and actions of certain
fascist states of recent memory in efforts to restrict the freedom of
citizens.


Good. The moveon.org Hitler/Bush ad created a helluva backlash. People
*like* Bush. Attacking him as a person is a sure way to alienate the 70% of
the people that "like him as a person".




They're fundraising commercials. There are certain language
similarities, even, in some of the Bush Administration's actions to
limit freedoms with the language used against the citizens of Argentina,
Chile, Spain, and former Soviet bloc states.


Most "undecideds" couldn't even name three of the former Soviet bloc states.
You might think that "undecided" means that someone is thoughtfully
considering all of the candidates...but, in reality, "undecided" can be
translated to mean "I have no idea because I don't follow politics and the
issues".



Your love of fascism...in full bloom, as it were, and I don't mean

Leopold.





NOYB January 9th 04 02:47 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Rick" wrote in message
.net...


I can foresee the Bush mob reacting to dropping poll numbers
by declaring martial law and "postponing" elections due to a
mysterious fire in the Reichstag.


....says Rick as he was scratching in the garden when something fell on his
head.




Harry Krause January 9th 04 02:50 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Gould 0738 wrote:
Moveon.org vetted these commercials and allowed it to be aired with
the words "sponsored by moveon.org". Lie (it is really not spin when
it comes from someone so intellegent as you) if you want, but they

put
it out, sponsored it, approved it, a

Lie?

I said the ad did not appear in the media.

Please let me know where the item has appeared as an actual campaign
tool, and
I will retract my statement. If you have no knowlegde of the item
appearing in
the press, you have no business calling me a liar.

AFAIK, the only place the ad appeared was on the moveon.org website,
among a
group of other ads submitted for consideration.




Heheheh. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...the excoriation of George W.

Bush,
live and in color on all channels...

I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a) to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.





Doubtful...the ads I got to preview today in storyboard form show the
similarities between a number of Bush's actions and actions of certain
fascist states of recent memory in efforts to restrict the freedom of
citizens.


Good. The moveon.org Hitler/Bush ad created a helluva backlash. People
*like* Bush. Attacking him as a person is a sure way to alienate the 70% of
the people that "like him as a person".




They're fundraising commercials. There are certain language
similarities, even, in some of the Bush Administration's actions to
limit freedoms with the language used against the citizens of Argentina,
Chile, Spain, and former Soviet bloc states.


Most "undecideds" couldn't even name three of the former Soviet bloc states.
You might think that "undecided" means that someone is thoughtfully
considering all of the candidates...but, in reality, "undecided" can be
translated to mean "I have no idea because I don't follow politics and the
issues".


I'm sorry, but the fascist ruminations of a 30-year-old dentist who went
from mommy's apron strings to college to dental school to a life of ease
in South Florida are meaningless. Let me know when life has dealt you a
few serious blows and you develop a bit of compassion for humanity, eh?





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NOYB January 9th 04 02:58 AM

OT--Dem sleaze tactics not working as planned.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Rick wrote:

NOYB wrote:

I hope so. That's the surest way to push the "undecideds" either (a)

to
bush, or (b) to stay home and not vote.


Given the regard Bush and his criminal handlers have for the
niceties of law and the Constitution you just might get
your wish.

I can foresee the Bush mob reacting to dropping poll numbers
by declaring martial law and "postponing" elections due to a
mysterious fire in the Reichstag.

Rick




Bears repeating:


An editorial from the Wisconsin State Journal
January 8, 2004

The United States Department of Labor announced this week that, over the
course of last year, American businesses cut 1,236,426 jobs in 2003,


I'll post a response tomorrow...*after* the December jobs report.

Right now, I could point out that as of November, there was already a net
gain of 589,000 jobs in 2003...but it will be more fun to post an even
higher number tomorrow.





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