On 28 Dec 2004 07:07:23 -0800, "milan ramaiya"
wrote:


DSK wrote:
milan ramaiya wrote:
... but I'm looking at a
bunch of different ones.


That's the smart way to shop. What's your time frame? Getting
underway
this spring?


Preferably by spring or summer. My biggest constraint is price. If I
could afford it, sure, I'd get a 30-35 footer. So far, I've seen the
Sovereign 23, for $2000 which he said is in good condition, an O'Day 27
for $4000, which is in okay condition, but the engine needs work
(replacement?), and an O'Day 23 for $400, which is in bad shape, has no
sails and no engine. (It's got some hurricane damage.)

I'm considering buying the O'Day 23, and figure if I have a few months
to work on it, I can feed some money into it over time, and make it
really nice. If nothing else, I can turn around and sell it for much
more, and look at something else.

I'd like the O'Day 27 but I don't exactly have $4000 in my bank account
right now, and the Soveriegn is right in my budget, so it's looking
better and better.

Okay, I just found a '68 Star 23 for $1800. I'm gonna go look at that.

I'm not too concerned about the size of the boat. I'm actually looking
forward to some hairy experiences. Hell, that's what makes it
interesting, and it'll make me a better sailer.

States with or near water has places like this:

http://www.urifoundation.org/uriboats/index.html

Really nice boats cheap.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

States with or near water has places like this:

http://www.urifoundation.org/uriboats/index.html

Really nice boats cheap.


Actually, URI works hard to get top dollar for their boats. The sailing
club works them over when they're donated, and they don't mind holding
on to a boat for a long time to get the money out of it. For example,
they've had that MX-20 for at least 2 years. Nice boat but clearly not
much demand for it. And they've gotten into motorboats, expect to see
more listings like that...

Down in Florida, Eckerd has a boat donation/sales program and at least
one fo the boats I gave links to was there. Some years ago my wife and I
almost bought an old classic yawl from them, but my wife was not
enthused about it as a project.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
States with or near water has places like this:

http://www.urifoundation.org/uriboats/index.html

Really nice boats cheap.

Forgot to mention-

That D&M 22 is a great boat. D&M were the predecessor to Tartan and they
build their boats very very well for the era. The 22 is a little
unconventional but a practical layout and they sail quite well (will
easily sail rings around a Catalina 22 for example).

DSK

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:56:20 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
States with or near water has places like this:

http://www.urifoundation.org/uriboats/index.html

Really nice boats cheap.

Forgot to mention-

That D&M 22 is a great boat. D&M were the predecessor to Tartan and they
build their boats very very well for the era. The 22 is a little
unconventional but a practical layout and they sail quite well (will
easily sail rings around a Catalina 22 for example).

I bow to your superior knowledge of sail boats.

I sailed when I was a kid and owned a Towne class for club racing and
I even sailed in a Marblehead to Bermuda race.

It's really not my thing though.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I bow to your superior knowledge of sail boats.

It's not just sailboats


I sailed when I was a kid and owned a Towne class for club racing and
I even sailed in a Marblehead to Bermuda race.

It's really not my thing though.


Was your Townie built by Lowell? Did you have one of those old fashioned
spinnakers? They are great boats, really classic. I've been to regattas
up in New England where there were Towns racing, would like to try one.
I have sailed an Indian which IIRC is the Town's big sister.

http://www.doryclub.org/townclass/tchistory.htm

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:34:07 -0500, DSK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I bow to your superior knowledge of sail boats.

It's not just sailboats

Like I said, I bow to your superior...yada, yada, yada. :)

I sailed when I was a kid and owned a Towne class for club racing and
I even sailed in a Marblehead to Bermuda race.

It's really not my thing though.

Was your Townie built by Lowell?

I had to look it up in my logbook and it took a minute to find - yes,
it was a Lowell and was refit by John Cunningham (of Cunningham Dory
fame) after some damage in 1955. I believe they are still made by
Lowell, but now in fiberglass. Somebody once told me that there are
only a few, like 300 or so, of the wooden Townies left.

I don't own the boat anymore, my brother does.

Did you have one of those old fashioned spinnakers?

I seem to remember that it had the rigging for it, but I don't believe
that I ever used it.

They are great boats, really classic. I've been to regattas
up in New England where there were Towns racing, would like to try one.
I have sailed an Indian which IIRC is the Town's big sister.

http://www.doryclub.org/townclass/tchistory.htm

Never sailed the Indian, but I have sailed a 101, bunch of different J
class boats, two different 12 meter trial Cup boats (one of which was
built in Marblehead at the Lower Hood shipyard) and one February
afternoon in 15 mph wind and temps down around 15, a Frostbite race
which was the most miserable experience I've ever had. :)

Later,

Tom

Was your Townie built by Lowell?


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I had to look it up in my logbook and it took a minute to find - yes,
it was a Lowell and was refit by John Cunningham (of Cunningham Dory
fame) after some damage in 1955. I believe they are still made by
Lowell, but now in fiberglass. Somebody once told me that there are
only a few, like 300 or so, of the wooden Townies left.

I'd call that a lot among small old one-designs. A lot of classes never
had that many boats built in the first place! But a lot of them weren't
as nice, either.



I don't own the boat anymore, my brother does.


So you can still sail it if you ever want to?


Never sailed the Indian, but I have sailed a 101, bunch of different J
class boats, two different 12 meter trial Cup boats (one of which was
built in Marblehead at the Lower Hood shipyard) and one February
afternoon in 15 mph wind and temps down around 15, a Frostbite race
which was the most miserable experience I've ever had. :)


Yep... you have to be obsessed beyond all reason to enjoy frostbiting...
I love it because the wind is usually better and people don't start
tacking duels out of boredom... also I have three or four good wetsuits,
so freezing isn't a problem

Fresh Breezes- Doug King