A friend of mine purchased a 16' sail boat with a cuddy at a yard sail for
$40. After a lot of cleaning and general repair he has it relatively sea
worthy. It is a pretty nice boat despite the fact it had sat uncovered and
neglected at someones cottage for many years. He has been motorsailing to
test out the boat and did some cramped camping in the cuddy.

Anyway, to get to my point he has a ways to go to get it sailable as the
sail needs repair and some of the rudder/tiller are missing. The rigging
looks complete but we are not sure yet.

Does any one know if this builder is in business or not. I have done an
extensive search of the web and have found little other than he was a
small sailboat dealer/designer/builder in the 60's. I think he was around
Toronto but not sure. Also any help as to where he may get parts for it. My
friend has no sailing experience and intends to sail any way. I have enough
experience to know that he may get into trouble and am just trying to help
him get the info required to ge the boat sea worthy.

Any help Appreciated
TIA
John Buffett

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The name of the builder is ????
Generally there is a plate or sticker on the boat with the builder's name
etc. as well as other info.
Failing that, a picture would help.
Wild guess would be a Siren built in Owen Sound by VandeStadt and McGruer.
Here is a link to one for sale with a picture.

http://www.sailboatsales.com/usedspe...elSearch=Siren



"John" wrote in message
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A friend of mine purchased a 16' sail boat with a cuddy at a yard sail
for
$40. After a lot of cleaning and general repair he has it relatively sea
worthy. It is a pretty nice boat despite the fact it had sat uncovered and
neglected at someones cottage for many years. He has been motorsailing
to
test out the boat and did some cramped camping in the cuddy.

Anyway, to get to my point he has a ways to go to get it sailable as the
sail needs repair and some of the rudder/tiller are missing. The rigging
looks complete but we are not sure yet.

Does any one know if this builder is in business or not. I have done an
extensive search of the web and have found little other than he was a
small sailboat dealer/designer/builder in the 60's. I think he was around
Toronto but not sure. Also any help as to where he may get parts for it.
My
friend has no sailing experience and intends to sail any way. I have
enough
experience to know that he may get into trouble and am just trying to help
him get the info required to ge the boat sea worthy.

Any help Appreciated
TIA
John Buffett

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The name of the builder is ????
Generally there is a plate or sticker on the boat with the builder's name
etc. as well as other info.
Failing that, a picture would help.
Wild guess would be a Siren built in Owen Sound by VandeStadt and McGruer.
Here is a link to one for sale with a picture.

http://www.sailboatsales.com/usedspe...elSearch=Siren



"John" wrote in message
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A friend of mine purchased a 16' sail boat with a cuddy at a yard sail
for
$40. After a lot of cleaning and general repair he has it relatively sea
worthy. It is a pretty nice boat despite the fact it had sat uncovered and
neglected at someones cottage for many years. He has been motorsailing
to
test out the boat and did some cramped camping in the cuddy.

Anyway, to get to my point he has a ways to go to get it sailable as the
sail needs repair and some of the rudder/tiller are missing. The rigging
looks complete but we are not sure yet.

Does any one know if this builder is in business or not. I have done an
extensive search of the web and have found little other than he was a
small sailboat dealer/designer/builder in the 60's. I think he was around
Toronto but not sure. Also any help as to where he may get parts for it.
My
friend has no sailing experience and intends to sail any way. I have
enough
experience to know that he may get into trouble and am just trying to help
him get the info required to ge the boat sea worthy.

Any help Appreciated
TIA
John Buffett

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Ron, I suspect the original poster thinks the name in the subject line is
the builder's name. If for some reason you cannot see the subject line it
says "D. A. Bamford Sailboat Information"
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"Ron Alexander" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
The name of the builder is ????
Generally there is a plate or sticker on the boat with the builder's name
etc. as well as other info.
Failing that, a picture would help.
Wild guess would be a Siren built in Owen Sound by VandeStadt and McGruer.
Here is a link to one for sale with a picture.

http://www.sailboatsales.com/usedspe...elSearch=Siren



"John" wrote in message
...

A friend of mine purchased a 16' sail boat with a cuddy at a yard sail
for
$40. After a lot of cleaning and general repair he has it relatively sea
worthy. It is a pretty nice boat despite the fact it had sat uncovered
and
neglected at someones cottage for many years. He has been
motorsailing
to
test out the boat and did some cramped camping in the cuddy.

Anyway, to get to my point he has a ways to go to get it sailable as the
sail needs repair and some of the rudder/tiller are missing. The rigging
looks complete but we are not sure yet.

Does any one know if this builder is in business or not. I have done
an
extensive search of the web and have found little other than he was a
small sailboat dealer/designer/builder in the 60's. I think he was
around
Toronto but not sure. Also any help as to where he may get parts for it.
My
friend has no sailing experience and intends to sail any way. I have
enough
experience to know that he may get into trouble and am just trying to
help
him get the info required to ge the boat sea worthy.

Any help Appreciated
TIA
John Buffett

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Ron, I suspect the original poster thinks the name in the subject line is
the builder's name. If for some reason you cannot see the subject line it
says "D. A. Bamford Sailboat Information"
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Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

"Ron Alexander" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
The name of the builder is ????
Generally there is a plate or sticker on the boat with the builder's name
etc. as well as other info.
Failing that, a picture would help.
Wild guess would be a Siren built in Owen Sound by VandeStadt and McGruer.
Here is a link to one for sale with a picture.

http://www.sailboatsales.com/usedspe...elSearch=Siren



"John" wrote in message
...

A friend of mine purchased a 16' sail boat with a cuddy at a yard sail
for
$40. After a lot of cleaning and general repair he has it relatively sea
worthy. It is a pretty nice boat despite the fact it had sat uncovered
and
neglected at someones cottage for many years. He has been
motorsailing
to
test out the boat and did some cramped camping in the cuddy.

Anyway, to get to my point he has a ways to go to get it sailable as the
sail needs repair and some of the rudder/tiller are missing. The rigging
looks complete but we are not sure yet.

Does any one know if this builder is in business or not. I have done
an
extensive search of the web and have found little other than he was a
small sailboat dealer/designer/builder in the 60's. I think he was
around
Toronto but not sure. Also any help as to where he may get parts for it.
My
friend has no sailing experience and intends to sail any way. I have
enough
experience to know that he may get into trouble and am just trying to
help
him get the info required to ge the boat sea worthy.

Any help Appreciated
TIA
John Buffett

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"Ron Alexander" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
The name of the builder is ????
Generally there is a plate or sticker on the boat with the builder's name
etc. as well as other info.
Failing that, a picture would help.
Wild guess would be a Siren built in Owen Sound by VandeStadt and McGruer.
Here is a link to one for sale with a picture.

http://www.sailboatsales.com/usedspe...elSearch=Siren


The only name visible on the inside of the transom is DA BAmford.

It is not a Siren as it is only a 16 footer. But it is similar. The cuddy
would sleep two adults but you better be good friends as it is tiny.

"Ron Alexander" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
The name of the builder is ????
Generally there is a plate or sticker on the boat with the builder's name
etc. as well as other info.
Failing that, a picture would help.
Wild guess would be a Siren built in Owen Sound by VandeStadt and McGruer.
Here is a link to one for sale with a picture.

http://www.sailboatsales.com/usedspe...elSearch=Siren


The only name visible on the inside of the transom is DA BAmford.

It is not a Siren as it is only a 16 footer. But it is similar. The cuddy
would sleep two adults but you better be good friends as it is tiny.

These guys seem fairly knowledgeable
http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/ phone...don't expect a
quick answer to an e-mail

also http://www.sailboatsales.com/ you may have trouble
catching Jos in this time of year.

John wrote in message
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These guys seem fairly knowledgeable
http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/ phone...don't expect a
quick answer to an e-mail

also http://www.sailboatsales.com/ you may have trouble
catching Jos in this time of year.

John wrote in message
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