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milan ramaiya December 27th 04 09:39 PM

information on sovereign 23 sailboat
 
Does anybody know anything about the Sovereign 23' sailboat? I'm
considering getting one to sail from Florida to the Bahamas, and do
seem weekend offshore sailing, and would like to know anybody's
opinions on the boat.

thanks.


DSK December 28th 04 12:40 AM

milan ramaiya wrote:
Does anybody know anything about the Sovereign 23' sailboat? I'm
considering getting one to sail from Florida to the Bahamas, and do
seem weekend offshore sailing, and would like to know anybody's
opinions on the boat.


It's a nice enough boat. It would be easier to pick something that is
easier to trailer, and/or roomier, and/or a bit more of a performer
under sail. They were built by 3 different companies IIRC, the original
designer and then by the same company that made Bay Hens, then by Marine
Concepts who made Sea Pearls, Bay Hens, and Sovereigns.

Sovereign 23
LOA 23.0 LWL 18.5
Beam 8.0 Draft 2.2
Disp 3,200 Ballast 1,200
Sail Area 240
SA/D 17.7
L/D 226

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Short Wave Sportfishing December 28th 04 01:03 AM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:40:46 -0500, DSK wrote:

milan ramaiya wrote:
Does anybody know anything about the Sovereign 23' sailboat? I'm
considering getting one to sail from Florida to the Bahamas, and do
seem weekend offshore sailing, and would like to know anybody's
opinions on the boat.


It's a nice enough boat. It would be easier to pick something that is
easier to trailer, and/or roomier, and/or a bit more of a performer
under sail. They were built by 3 different companies IIRC, the original
designer and then by the same company that made Bay Hens, then by Marine
Concepts who made Sea Pearls, Bay Hens, and Sovereigns.

Sovereign 23
LOA 23.0 LWL 18.5
Beam 8.0 Draft 2.2
Disp 3,200 Ballast 1,200
Sail Area 240
SA/D 17.7
L/D 226

Hope this helps.


23 foot sail boat, about, what, 1,100 miles ENE, assuming from Miami,
through the Florida Strait - what's wrong with this picture? :)

Later,

Tom

DSK December 28th 04 01:53 AM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
23 foot sail boat, about, what, 1,100 miles ENE, assuming from Miami,
through the Florida Strait - what's wrong with this picture? :)


Shucks, people have sailed smaller & frailer boats across the Pacific...
around the world, for that matter. People have sailed Sunfish out to
Bimini and back, that's the Bahamas, ain't it?

DSK


Don White December 28th 04 02:33 AM


"DSK" wrote in message Shucks, people have sailed
smaller & frailer boats across the Pacific...
around the world, for that matter. People have sailed Sunfish out to
Bimini and back, that's the Bahamas, ain't it?

DSK


Just last week some character wanted to sail a Nordica 16 to England from
the Maritimes.



DSK December 28th 04 02:47 AM

Don White wrote:
Just last week some character wanted to sail a Nordica 16 to England from
the Maritimes.


That's a whole different can o'worms IMHO.

At least the Sovereign 23 is decked over (it might even have positive
flotation) and can carry supplies. It's also going to cover a lot more
ground in a day's sailing even if it's a relatively stodgy 23 footer.

The trip out to Bimini is a one-day event. You can pick the weather.
Crossing a major chunk of ocean is a take- whatever- she- throws- at-
you scenario.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Falky foo December 28th 04 04:35 AM

hope you have a strong stomach or many flat days and a good motor.



"milan ramaiya" wrote in message
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Does anybody know anything about the Sovereign 23' sailboat? I'm
considering getting one to sail from Florida to the Bahamas, and do
seem weekend offshore sailing, and would like to know anybody's
opinions on the boat.

thanks.




milan ramaiya December 28th 04 05:30 AM

So, how about this compared to an O'Day 23 or O'Day 27. Obviously the
27 would be the preferred choice over the 23, but I'm looking at a
bunch of different ones.

Thanks.


Wayne.B December 28th 04 05:43 AM

On 27 Dec 2004 21:30:41 -0800, "milan ramaiya"
wrote:
So, how about this compared to an O'Day 23 or O'Day 27. Obviously the
27 would be the preferred choice over the 23, but I'm looking at a
bunch of different ones.


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There are so many good, older boats in the 30 to 34 foot range, that I
would not consider anything else for the kind of cruising you want to
do. If you really want smaller for some reason, look for an old
Pearson Triton. They are nearly indestructible.


Short Wave Sportfishing December 28th 04 11:17 AM

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:43:45 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On 27 Dec 2004 21:30:41 -0800, "milan ramaiya"
wrote:
So, how about this compared to an O'Day 23 or O'Day 27. Obviously the
27 would be the preferred choice over the 23, but I'm looking at a
bunch of different ones.


=================================

There are so many good, older boats in the 30 to 34 foot range, that I
would not consider anything else for the kind of cruising you want to
do. If you really want smaller for some reason, look for an old
Pearson Triton. They are nearly indestructible.


Good boats cheap too.

I just have a problem with sailing that distance in a 23 footer.

Maybe it's my advanced age. :)

Later,

Tom


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