"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:51:54 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote:

Tuuk,
From what I've read, home schooler's excel above the other students.
I'm
sure some parents are better at this than others but the figures said they
for the most part are doing very well.
Paul

I retired from teaching in the public system 18 months ago. I am
fully supportive of home schooling. Too many parents treat public
education as cheap babysitting.

But under no circumstances should home schoolers ask for public
support in the form of resources or assistance from the public system.
If you have principles, stick with them.

I presume, then, that you'll rebate what they paid in taxes toward that same
public system?

--Alan Gomes

"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:51:54 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote:

Tuuk,
From what I've read, home schooler's excel above the other students.
I'm
sure some parents are better at this than others but the figures said they
for the most part are doing very well.
Paul

I retired from teaching in the public system 18 months ago. I am
fully supportive of home schooling. Too many parents treat public
education as cheap babysitting.

But under no circumstances should home schoolers ask for public
support in the form of resources or assistance from the public system.
If you have principles, stick with them.

The principle of having paid for something (taxes), and getting at least a
tiny return on the investment.

Jack Dale wrote:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:51:54 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote:


Tuuk,
From what I've read, home schooler's excel above the other students. I'm
sure some parents are better at this than others but the figures said they
for the most part are doing very well.
Paul


I retired from teaching in the public system 18 months ago. I am
fully supportive of home schooling. Too many parents treat public
education as cheap babysitting.

But under no circumstances should home schoolers ask for public
support in the form of resources or assistance from the public system.
If you have principles, stick with them.

Gee Jack; you see you are or at least were, part of the problem; try to
understand teachers are just govt. employees paid to teach academic
subjects. Your personal private views are your personal private views be
they tax or war or whatever, at work with other peoples' impressionable
kids keep them to yourself.

All tax payers are entitled to have their share of the funds for
educating their children no matter how they choose to achieve it
correspondence, private topped up with extra funds or the public system.
It's all about free choice not union mandated brain washing.

K

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 04:33:36 GMT, Jack Dale
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:51:54 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote:

Tuuk,
From what I've read, home schooler's excel above the other students. I'm
sure some parents are better at this than others but the figures said they
for the most part are doing very well.
Paul

I retired from teaching in the public system 18 months ago. I am
fully supportive of home schooling. Too many parents treat public
education as cheap babysitting.

But under no circumstances should home schoolers ask for public
support in the form of resources or assistance from the public system.
If you have principles, stick with them.

If they pay taxes, they are invested in the resource and as such have
access to the same resources as any other citizen.

This town's home schoolers make regular use of our system for things
like music instruction, special needs, atheistic and social functions.

I have no problem with that.

Later,

Tom

Why not? We paid our taxes for that service already? Why shouldn't home
schoolers get some of what they paid for?

--


Keith
__
Some people are like Slinkies: not really good for anything, but you still
can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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But under no circumstances should home schoolers ask for public
support in the form of resources or assistance from the public system.
If you have principles, stick with them.

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:51:54 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote:

Tuuk,
From what I've read, home schooler's excel above the other students. I'm
sure some parents are better at this than others but the figures said they
for the most part are doing very well.
Paul

I'd be interested in what you've read.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Let me jump in here! My neighbor raised 5 kids on a 39' custom sailboat in
Mexico. They went aboard ship when the first was 3 mo old and had 4 more
aboard. All were home (boat) schooled until they reached high school age.
That's when the kids and the parents felt the kids needed more peer
interaction so they bought the house next door and moved ashore. All five
kids excelled in regular high school and all five are now in college with
the first graduating next year. One just spent a year in Japan as an
exchange student and speaks good Japanese.
I'm not sure how much home schooling benefitted the kids but it sure never
hurt them! Might be the smart genes. Their father is from Poland!
BTW; They still have the boat, have refinished it, got his license, and
sells cruises out of Pt Angeles when he isn't working his internet cafe!
Gordon
"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:51:54 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast dot net wrote:

Tuuk,
From what I've read, home schooler's excel above the other students.
I'm
sure some parents are better at this than others but the figures said
they
for the most part are doing very well.
Paul

I'd be interested in what you've read.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:44:04 -0600, Tamaroak
wrote:

My bride and I are considering taking a year off and doing the Great
Circle Route/Loop, a mere 5000 miles around the east coast, the Erie
Canal and the Tenn-Tom. We would take our boys who will be 14 and 15 and
home schooling them on the boat, using a prepared curriculum and a
satellite Internet connection.

Does anyone out there have any experience in this type of adventure?


No personal experience - no kids. But I would recommend reading some
books by Liza Copeland

Just Cruising
Still Cruising
Cruising for Cowards
and some others which do not spring to mind.

She has an article on SailNet, on the topic
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=copela0008

Jack

__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
__________________________________________________

Jeff,

My experience is old, but the other side.

Things kids schooled on board miss:
Some school based activities (sports - theater - clubs)
Some social development that is now a part of life.
(out of school for a year or two - this will no be and issue)
The peer group fashion police that criticize everyone for whatever
he/she wears and how much it cost.
The local bullies that own the turf and expect tribute at every turn
and teach their way to respond to threats and intimidation.
They will have a very difficult time establishing connections to
purchase for things their school peers might buy with the money
provided to replace the parent/family time.
Being bored silly in a class because the rote learning process is
slower for many of the classmates.

If they return to the same school they left, they may be somewhat out of
step. In the year of home school, it is not uncommon for a student that
was doing mediocre work to advance two grade levels (my wife is an
adviser to several home school families).

Many years ago, we lived on a Maine built Ketch. She was finished just
after the war (WW2)and was intended to be a coaster. I was the youngest
of three and the only one to come aboard as a newborn.

My mother ran school as was required, but I started earlier than could
have happened ashore. When time came to move into a house, it was rough
for my siblings. Both ended up in placed by grade level and so were
the youngest in the class by a year or more. They survived.

Would I subject two boys to this - in a heartbeat. They will be set in
an experience that they will able to draw on for a lifetime. The people
that they might not get along with aren't worth getting along with anyway.



Tamaroak wrote:
My bride and I are considering taking a year off and doing the Great
Circle Route/Loop, a mere 5000 miles around the east coast, the Erie
Canal and the Tenn-Tom. We would take our boys who will be 14 and 15 and
home schooling them on the boat, using a prepared curriculum and a
satellite Internet connection.

Does anyone out there have any experience in this type of adventure?

Capt. Jeff

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:44:04 -0600, Tamaroak
wrote:

My bride and I are considering taking a year off and doing the Great
Circle Route/Loop, a mere 5000 miles around the east coast, the Erie
Canal and the Tenn-Tom. We would take our boys who will be 14 and 15 and
home schooling them on the boat, using a prepared curriculum and a
satellite Internet connection.

Does anyone out there have any experience in this type of adventure?

Seriously, and despite my initial silly comment, it's up to you to
judge whether this will work for you or not. If your kids are
reasonably disciplined, then it should work fine. On the other hand,
they are boys of that "certain" age which can be problematic. If they
share the same interests as you, then it will work most of the time -
if they don't, the chances are that you will not have a good time.

If you feel competent enough to guide them through the course work,
there are a lot of resources out on the web and other places for home
schooling.

One last comment - if this is something that you have wanted to do and
you have some resistance to the idea from the kids, think a little
more about the trip.

Good luck.

Later,

Tom