On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:25:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:07:09 GMT, "RichG"
wrote:


I'm not a troller, so my answer is without a lot of knowledge...however, it
seems to me that many trollers put "trolling plates" on their motors to SLOW
the boat down. The few times that I have trolled ( Alaska, etc.) we were
running at 2 or 3 mph. Seems to me, that the drag created by ANY tab system
would be beneficial?????


That's an interesting question.

If you are just trolling to scare up a fish, then yes. If you are
looking for a BIG fish, then you need to get close to structure and
here in New England, that means rocks - lots of rocks.

A trolling plate can cause you control problems - in particular in
strong currents or rips - oddly, that's where the big fish lurk. All
my big stripers and bluefish have been caught within 50/60 feet of
shore in and around rocks and rips. I'd rather have the ability to
maneuver than have it restricted with a trolling plate.

It's one problem that I have with the Ranger - I can't slow it down
enough at slack tide for the really big stripers. Normally, I can
work with the tides and rips to keep the speed down, but at other
times, it's impossible.

And, I know it sounds stupid, but 1/1.5 mph can make a difference.

Electric Trolling Motor...

Have one - bow mounted 67# thrust 24 Vdc Great White.

It's worse than the regular motor for this type of work.

Later,

Tom

My comment on the "trolling plate" was in response to a prior question that
asked if Smart Tabs would slow a boat down when trolling. I thought
"slowing a boat down " was a good thing when trolling, so that is why I
mentioned the trolling plates. I was not recommending them, just commenting
on how many I've seen advertised.
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With regard to your query about your difficulty in trolling slower

....I don't know if it will work in your situation, but around here, to cut
down on wind drift, I hang a "drag anchor" or small "sea anchor" out.
Depending on which cleat I position it, I can set up a neat drift that
matches my position along a shoreline. No reason it wouldn't positively
affect a slow troll while under way. I've moved my boat short distances
carefully while it was deployed. Might not work for you, but works here. --

RichG manager, Carolina Skiff Owners Group on MSN
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:25:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:07:09 GMT, "RichG"
wrote:


I'm not a troller, so my answer is without a lot of
knowledge...however, it
seems to me that many trollers put "trolling plates" on their motors to
SLOW
the boat down. The few times that I have trolled ( Alaska, etc.) we
were
running at 2 or 3 mph. Seems to me, that the drag created by ANY tab
system
would be beneficial?????


That's an interesting question.

If you are just trolling to scare up a fish, then yes. If you are
looking for a BIG fish, then you need to get close to structure and
here in New England, that means rocks - lots of rocks.

A trolling plate can cause you control problems - in particular in
strong currents or rips - oddly, that's where the big fish lurk. All
my big stripers and bluefish have been caught within 50/60 feet of
shore in and around rocks and rips. I'd rather have the ability to
maneuver than have it restricted with a trolling plate.

It's one problem that I have with the Ranger - I can't slow it down
enough at slack tide for the really big stripers. Normally, I can
work with the tides and rips to keep the speed down, but at other
times, it's impossible.

And, I know it sounds stupid, but 1/1.5 mph can make a difference.

Electric Trolling Motor...

Have one - bow mounted 67# thrust 24 Vdc Great White.

It's worse than the regular motor for this type of work.

Later,

Tom

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:44:39 GMT, "RichG"
wrote:

My comment on the "trolling plate" was in response to a prior question that
asked if Smart Tabs would slow a boat down when trolling. I thought
"slowing a boat down " was a good thing when trolling, so that is why I
mentioned the trolling plates. I was not recommending them, just commenting
on how many I've seen advertised.
*****************************
With regard to your query about your difficulty in trolling slower

...I don't know if it will work in your situation, but around here, to cut
down on wind drift, I hang a "drag anchor" or small "sea anchor" out.
Depending on which cleat I position it, I can set up a neat drift that
matches my position along a shoreline. No reason it wouldn't positively
affect a slow troll while under way. I've moved my boat short distances
carefully while it was deployed. Might not work for you, but works here. --

Trust me Rich - I've tried everything. :)

It's an odd, quirky boat. It's not designed for the kind of use I
need, but I was blinded by the fact that it's (1) a Ranger (2) a
beautiful boat (3) trailerable (4) nice in big fresh water lakes,
rivers.

It's actually the reason I've been looking for a boat in between the
Ranger and the Contender.

Later,

Tom

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:25:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:07:09 GMT, "RichG"

wrote:


I'm not a troller, so my answer is without a lot of
knowledge...however, it
seems to me that many trollers put "trolling plates" on their
motors to SLOW
the boat down. The few times that I have trolled ( Alaska, etc.) we
were
running at 2 or 3 mph. Seems to me, that the drag created by ANY
tab system
would be beneficial?????


That's an interesting question.

If you are just trolling to scare up a fish, then yes. If you are
looking for a BIG fish, then you need to get close to structure and
here in New England, that means rocks - lots of rocks.

A trolling plate can cause you control problems - in particular in
strong currents or rips - oddly, that's where the big fish lurk.
All
my big stripers and bluefish have been caught within 50/60 feet of
shore in and around rocks and rips. I'd rather have the ability to
maneuver than have it restricted with a trolling plate.

It's one problem that I have with the Ranger - I can't slow it down
enough at slack tide for the really big stripers. Normally, I can
work with the tides and rips to keep the speed down, but at other
times, it's impossible.

And, I know it sounds stupid, but 1/1.5 mph can make a difference.

Electric Trolling Motor...

Have one - bow mounted 67# thrust 24 Vdc Great White.

It's worse than the regular motor for this type of work.

Later,

Tom

Have you tried the "drift socks" favored by the walleye fishermen in
fresh water? Basically a sea anchor. deploy from near the bow, let
back a short ways, not far enough to get to the motor.

del cecchi

"del cecchi" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:25:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:07:09 GMT, "RichG"

wrote:


I'm not a troller, so my answer is without a lot of
knowledge...however, it
seems to me that many trollers put "trolling plates" on their
motors to SLOW
the boat down. The few times that I have trolled ( Alaska, etc.) we
were
running at 2 or 3 mph. Seems to me, that the drag created by ANY
tab system
would be beneficial?????


That's an interesting question.

If you are just trolling to scare up a fish, then yes. If you are
looking for a BIG fish, then you need to get close to structure and
here in New England, that means rocks - lots of rocks.

A trolling plate can cause you control problems - in particular in
strong currents or rips - oddly, that's where the big fish lurk.
All
my big stripers and bluefish have been caught within 50/60 feet of
shore in and around rocks and rips. I'd rather have the ability to
maneuver than have it restricted with a trolling plate.

It's one problem that I have with the Ranger - I can't slow it down
enough at slack tide for the really big stripers. Normally, I can
work with the tides and rips to keep the speed down, but at other
times, it's impossible.

And, I know it sounds stupid, but 1/1.5 mph can make a difference.

Electric Trolling Motor...

Have one - bow mounted 67# thrust 24 Vdc Great White.

It's worse than the regular motor for this type of work.

Later,

Tom

Have you tried the "drift socks" favored by the walleye fishermen in
fresh water? Basically a sea anchor. deploy from near the bow, let
back a short ways, not far enough to get to the motor.

del cecchi




I have got sea anchors caught in the prop, so I do not like cloth items
hanging in the water. Maybe a 5 gallon bucket or 2. Then just power out if
in a bad situation.

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:58:30 -0600, "del cecchi"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:25:56 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:07:09 GMT, "RichG"

wrote:


I'm not a troller, so my answer is without a lot of
knowledge...however, it
seems to me that many trollers put "trolling plates" on their
motors to SLOW
the boat down. The few times that I have trolled ( Alaska, etc.) we
were
running at 2 or 3 mph. Seems to me, that the drag created by ANY
tab system
would be beneficial?????


That's an interesting question.

If you are just trolling to scare up a fish, then yes. If you are
looking for a BIG fish, then you need to get close to structure and
here in New England, that means rocks - lots of rocks.

A trolling plate can cause you control problems - in particular in
strong currents or rips - oddly, that's where the big fish lurk.
All
my big stripers and bluefish have been caught within 50/60 feet of
shore in and around rocks and rips. I'd rather have the ability to
maneuver than have it restricted with a trolling plate.

It's one problem that I have with the Ranger - I can't slow it down
enough at slack tide for the really big stripers. Normally, I can
work with the tides and rips to keep the speed down, but at other
times, it's impossible.

And, I know it sounds stupid, but 1/1.5 mph can make a difference.

Electric Trolling Motor...

Have one - bow mounted 67# thrust 24 Vdc Great White.

It's worse than the regular motor for this type of work.

Have you tried the "drift socks" favored by the walleye fishermen in
fresh water? Basically a sea anchor. deploy from near the bow, let
back a short ways, not far enough to get to the motor.

For the kind of inshore thing I do, their not really appropriate.

Now out along a drift line, they are great and work ok.

At Westerly Reef, they suck. :)

Later,

Tom