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"Tinkerntom" wrote in message ... Keenan Wellar wrote in message news:BDCBF592.12717%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@h otmail.com... in article , Tinkerntom at wrote on 11/25/04 7:42 PM: As an Educator, you are probably familiar with the Meyers-Briggs Personality Profile. When tested, I scored in the 98% as an ENTP. One outstanding and well known ENTP was General Patton. You might not have liked his politics, style, or his personality, but one thing about him, you knew where he stood, and maybe not where he was going. But you knew not to stand in his way. Sound familiar! He was a very bitter and unstable individual. Are those the characteristics you are referring to? Because, clearly, you aren't all that bitter. Keenan, it is encouraging that you do not perceive me as being bitter! Uh. Great. Though you say nothing about unstable. As a kayaker, you understand the necessity of stability, especially secondary;) I think you need a lot of work on primary stability. Secondary stability may well be a distant an unachievable goal. I'll let you know if I perceive anything in that direction. I understand that you were primarily speaking of Patton, who very well may have been bitter and unstable. As an ENTP, his Extravert side could have turned very negetive when taken out of the loop of significance, that he had enjoyed during the war. Extroverts like to be near the center of activity. No kidding. I suppose introverts tend to shun the spotlight then? So it's almost as if the "extro" part of the word means, like, "out there" and the "intro" means, like "inside" or something. |
"rick etter" wrote in message k.net... "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCBF4B2.12716%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article , rick etter at wrote on 11/25/04 4:48 PM: "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCAD48B.12669%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article et, rick etter at wrote on 11/24/04 11:02 PM: "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCAAD29.1265C%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article t, rick etter at wrote on 11/24/04 9:17 PM: "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCA9664.12630%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article G09pd.15037$Gw.11523@trndny09, No Spam at wrote on 11/24/04 6:43 PM: Well that is where we will have to agree to disagree. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing. I would really like to understand how George W Bush could be less evil than John Kerry. I mean, I watch George with one of his little speeches where he makes an obnoxious statement and then goes "heh heh heh" with that evil grin....it just gives me the willies! ==================== But a self-confessed war criminal doesn't phase you at all? Quite a selective set of knee-jerks you have there, eh? You mean because Kerry was a soldier in Vietnam? ===================== No, stupid, because he admitted to participating in, and performing *war crimes*. Did you miss that little part of his sordid past, or were you just determined to not hear anything contrary to the 'good feelings' he gave you? Yes, I'm aware. The entire US fiasco in Vietnam was a war crime. ===================== No, fool. I'm talking on a personal level. *He* phisically participated and admitted to performing acts that were war crimes with his own hands. Not all in Vietnam could say that. The entire American adventure in Vietnam was a war crime. Young Americans, including John Kerry, were sent there to kill people, many of them innocent civilians. ================== Nice try fool. Keep tap dancing. The whole of the US military did not commit crimes on a personal basis. You can try to rewrite what ever you want, it won't make your lys and delusion real though. It would depend on the duties they were given. How many US soldiers in Vietnam do you think engaged in exactly the same type of activities as John Kerry? That you continue to support a self-admitted war criminal is what is creepy. That you can't understand - or choose not to understand - the context is what is scary and creepy. At least 49% of Americans who voted in the last election didn't have the same problem, and I doubt many of the remaining 51% had a problem figuring it out either. =============== You have no clue. The majority of the US population saw things quite clearly. Is that right? So of the 49% that voted for John Kerry, how many of them did so with the thought in mind that they were electing a war criminal? How many of the 51% voted against him because they thought they were electing a war criminal? I am confident that both figures together would not add up to the total number of American voters who see George Bush as a war criminal for blowing the crap out of another country on false pretenses. He's honest. I know, that's not very presidential. ================= ROTFLMAO Honest? What a hoot! Dodge noted. ================== What adodge fool? The only dodging here is your continued tap dancing. You can't address the fact that kerry personally committed war crimes, and that *you* supported a war criminal. Quite telling really about the level of hate in many people. I'm not even an American voter, and I did not support John Kerry. I do understand the context of the war in Vietnam and commend Kerr for his honesty in coming forward to talk about what went on there. This contrasts sharply with George Jr and his dishonesty in waging war on another country under false pretenses. |
"Keenan Wellar" wrote in message . .. "rick etter" wrote in message k.net... "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCBF4B2.12716%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article , rick etter at wrote on 11/25/04 4:48 PM: "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCAD48B.12669%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article et, rick etter at wrote on 11/24/04 11:02 PM: "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCAAD29.1265C%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article t, rick etter at wrote on 11/24/04 9:17 PM: "Keenan Wellar" wrote in message news:BDCA9664.12630%UseAddressOnWebPageProvided@ho tmail.com... in article G09pd.15037$Gw.11523@trndny09, No Spam at wrote on 11/24/04 6:43 PM: Well that is where we will have to agree to disagree. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing. I would really like to understand how George W Bush could be less evil than John Kerry. I mean, I watch George with one of his little speeches where he makes an obnoxious statement and then goes "heh heh heh" with that evil grin....it just gives me the willies! ==================== But a self-confessed war criminal doesn't phase you at all? Quite a selective set of knee-jerks you have there, eh? You mean because Kerry was a soldier in Vietnam? ===================== No, stupid, because he admitted to participating in, and performing *war crimes*. Did you miss that little part of his sordid past, or were you just determined to not hear anything contrary to the 'good feelings' he gave you? Yes, I'm aware. The entire US fiasco in Vietnam was a war crime. ===================== No, fool. I'm talking on a personal level. *He* phisically participated and admitted to performing acts that were war crimes with his own hands. Not all in Vietnam could say that. The entire American adventure in Vietnam was a war crime. Young Americans, including John Kerry, were sent there to kill people, many of them innocent civilians. ================== Nice try fool. Keep tap dancing. The whole of the US military did not commit crimes on a personal basis. You can try to rewrite what ever you want, it won't make your lys and delusion real though. It would depend on the duties they were given. How many US soldiers in Vietnam do you think engaged in exactly the same type of activities as John Kerry? That you continue to support a self-admitted war criminal is what is creepy. That you can't understand - or choose not to understand - the context is what is scary and creepy. At least 49% of Americans who voted in the last election didn't have the same problem, and I doubt many of the remaining 51% had a problem figuring it out either. =============== You have no clue. The majority of the US population saw things quite clearly. Is that right? So of the 49% that voted for John Kerry, how many of them did so with the thought in mind that they were electing a war criminal? How many of the 51% voted against him because they thought they were electing a war criminal? I am confident that both figures together would not add up to the total number of American voters who see George Bush as a war criminal for blowing the crap out of another country on false pretenses. He's honest. I know, that's not very presidential. ================= ROTFLMAO Honest? What a hoot! Dodge noted. ================== What adodge fool? The only dodging here is your continued tap dancing. You can't address the fact that kerry personally committed war crimes, and that *you* supported a war criminal. Quite telling really about the level of hate in many people. I'm not even an American voter, and I did not support John Kerry. I do understand the context of the war in Vietnam and commend Kerr for his honesty in coming forward to talk about what went on there. ====================== You understand nothinmg as your diatribes have proven... This contrasts sharply with George Jr and his dishonesty in waging war on another country under false pretenses. ================= See, I rest my case. You have nothing but spew, hatred and lys... |
Has anyone else noted the inverse correlation between relevance to
paddling and how long a thread goes on around here? Howcumissat? Not complainin', exactly, just observin'. -- Steve Cramer Athens, GA |
Keenan, an addenum to my previous post,
I spent quite a bit of time, googling Keenan Wellar, and most all results on 10 or more pages, seem to apply to you. You are a prolific and proficient poster on a number of boards, with many interest and activities. I am not sure how you find time to be involved in the nit picking that has gone on this thread. You are apparently well educated, and well above average intelligence. So I am wondering still, if you are really interested in environmental issues, and specifically what your suggestions and recommendations would be? I am just trying to get the thread back on topic, since I don't find the name calling and nitpicking very enlightening, and I expect that you have a lot more quality content that you could contribute. I appreciated your trip reports on your web site, with some really good pictures, maps, and colorful descriptions of your trips. Although maybe I should attribute and give credit to Julie since most was from her perspective. You also have a nonprofit business that provides a very necessary community service. All this would indicate to me that you are a sensitive and thoughtful person, so why all the bull headedness that has been displayed on this thread. Please understand, that I ask this question, from the standpoint that I have not had the privilege of getting to know you over the last four years of your posting to the RBP. Others may know you and be able to read meaning into your comments, but I lack that insight. You say that you are not anti-American, but anti-hate. But it seems that your comments are hateful, and hate driven. Now from what I read elsewhere about you, I would doubt that you would want that image to stand, so can you please clarify. Also, it appears that despite your denial, that you are indeed anti-American. Many of your comment are dispariging, and none that I could find, friendly. This was curious to me as I am learning more about our neighbors to the north, Canada. Again understand, that I would be the first to acknowledge that I personally do not know much of anything about you and your country, which is my own failing, and which through this board, and this thread, have become painfully aware. I am seeking a growing awareness, and apologize to you for any unfriendliness I may have conveyed to you. You also seem to have a great sensitivity to the plight of the Gender Dysphoric, and I wondered if this is due to professional awareness, or do you have personal contacts that you are defending and speaking for. Could you also then answer, what your solutions would be in Canada, and as you understand, what would work in USA. I personally have contact with a number of individuals who though I don't agree with their lifestyle choices, I find them to be rather agreeable, engaging, and enjoyable to be around. Not nearly as hung up and strident as some of the straights that I deal with, but again that is and individual issue, for there is plenty of hate to go around on both sides of the issue. Briefly, also there seems to be some issues with religion, Christianity, and Jesus. I realize, that this is quite personal, but I would appreciate clarification here or in personal email if and as you choose. Now I only ask these questions, because these issues have come up in this thread as you responded to them. Feel free to further address them as you see fit, or direct my attention, to another sourse of information, if you want me to more clearly understand where you are coming from. I believe they are all environmental issues since they have to do with the world in which we live, and how we care for the world, and the people around us. If you would prefer to start another thread, I would be open to that, and be watching for your response. Respectfully Tinkerntom, aka Knesisknosis, Life, Live it! |
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message m... Keenan, an addenum to my previous post, I spent quite a bit of time, googling Keenan Wellar, and most all results on 10 or more pages, seem to apply to you. FYI, there is no other! |
Steve Cramer wrote: Has anyone else noted the inverse correlation between relevance to paddling and how long a thread goes on around here? Howcumissat? Not complainin', exactly, just observin'. big grin Could it be that paddlers not on the water are trying to get rid of their excess energy (and frustration at not being able to paddle) elsewhere? -- Wilko van den Bergh wilko(a t)dse(d o t)nl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://wilko.webzone.ru/ |
Keenan, Keenan, what are we going to do with such vitrol. I realize
that you have not received the post yet that I sent earlier, and this may pass your response in cyber space. However, this recent post by you continues to demonstrate the high level of vitrol present in your post, you need to check your dipstick. High vitrol, leads to bitterness, resentment and anger, all of which seems to be present. I hope that you can find a less public dumping ground than a public forum to work out your issues, though if you choose to continue here, you are certainly free to do so, and reap the commentary of Retter and company. I cherish your civil and professional response which I am sure you are capable of. The one liners, and childish logic demean your credentials. Retter needles you as being a fool. I don't perceive you as a fool, so why do you persist in presenting yourself as one? Even in this last post of yours, you delve into the depths of the meaning of extro and intro, and totally miss, or should I say ignore the true meaning of my post. And if that escapes your ability to comprehend, you also miss the sincere spirit in which I wrote. I do not find my stability in question, but you are the one that presents a less than desirable character to be discussing a serious subject. Are you contrary, for the sake of being contrary, or in the American Indian sense of the word, if you know what that means? Respectfully Tinkerntom, aka KnesisKnosis, Life, Live it! |
Wilko wrote in message ...
Steve Cramer wrote: Has anyone else noted the inverse correlation between relevance to paddling and how long a thread goes on around here? Howcumissat? Not complainin', exactly, just observin'. big grin Could it be that paddlers not on the water are trying to get rid of their excess energy (and frustration at not being able to paddle) elsewhere? Now you got me ROTF.... TnT |
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