How long did you think he should've been held as an enemy combatant?

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd US
Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used to
detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking to
his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually
*does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html

The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act live
in
or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the
terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas...

Oh yeah...one more thing...


Don't look directly at the light.

Forever.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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How long did you think he should've been held as an enemy combatant?

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd
US
Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used
to
detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking
to
his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually
*does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html

The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act
live
in
or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the
terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas...

Oh yeah...one more thing...


Don't look directly at the light.

Forever.

NOYB, you were born 150 years too late.

Get thee down to a library and do a bit of research on the Lincoln
Assassination.
You will discover that the suspects, (yes there were quite a number beyond
JWB), were held in prison under conditions you would applaud. They were
individually and solitarily confined, wearing canvas hoods with tiny air holes.
They were gagged except when eating, and never allowed to speak to *anybody*.

You'd think their military trial was a real hoot, as well.

Most likely, all were guilty as hell.

Trouble was, there were some *very* nervous public officials who didn't get a
good night's sleep until the lot of them were finally hanged and silenced
forever.

*That's* one of the dangers of your Patriot Act. It can be used to silence
people who are guilty of knowing too much about particular parties. Not saying
that is the situation in Padilla's case, but it is a possibility any time the
POTUS can unilaterally order an individual held "forever" without charges,
trial, or access to an attorney.

Gould 0738 wrote:


Get thee down to a library and do a bit of research on the Lincoln
Assassination.

NOYB and his ilk are intellectually incapable of applying history to the
present or future. They must honestly believe that if something did not
occur since they obtained their first television then it can not occur
in their lifetime.

They are incapable of relating historical events to current political
expedients. Like gluttons, they prefer to delight in the feast and turn
their backs to the inevitable cost of such indulgence.

They are truly frightening in their ignorance. They are the flagbearers
for political evil and social disintegration.

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message
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Gould 0738 wrote:


Get thee down to a library and do a bit of research on the Lincoln
Assassination.

NOYB and his ilk are intellectually incapable of applying history to the
present or future. They must honestly believe that if something did not
occur since they obtained their first television then it can not occur
in their lifetime.

They are incapable of relating historical events to current political
expedients. Like gluttons, they prefer to delight in the feast and turn
their backs to the inevitable cost of such indulgence.

What do *you* feel is the "inevitable cost of such indulgence"?


I know the cost of *recent history*. I know the cost of allowing
criminals and terrorists to use our civil liberties and open society as
loopholes to wage war against us. I also know the cost of history from 60+
years ago...the cost of letting a brutal tyrant go unchecked. I know the
cost of thousands of years of religious strife in which one religion has
tried to exterminate other religions. I also know that this is the current
goal of the modern Muslim fundamentalist...our extermination




They are truly frightening in their ignorance. They are the flagbearers
for political evil and social disintegration.

Your fear is directed in entirely the wrong direction. It'd be sad, if it
weren't so scary.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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I know the cost of *recent history*.

How about the cost of letting a very small group of men wage ware, while
Congress waffles about, afraid to object much because they're afraid of
disagreeing with the president because they're from his political party?
Examples: Phillippines, Vietnam, Iraq.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Forever.

If your kid was a captured POW and the enemy said "forever", you'd be
whining ad infinitum about the Geneva Convention, you pansy. :-)

My kid doesn't try and take on the World's most powerful nation. Padilla
did...and got caught. If his side wins the war, then he'll be freed. If
his side loses (which they will), he'll remain behind bars forever.

The same would be true about my son. If he were a POW, he'd be freed as
soon as his country opened up a can of whoop-ass on his captors.

BTW--I'm not for the death penalty, so I don't want to see the guy hanged.
If it's possible to subdue a threat through non-lethal means, and lock them
up permanently, than killing someone is not necessary.





"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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Forever.

If your kid was a captured POW and the enemy said "forever", you'd be
whining ad infinitum about the Geneva Convention, you pansy. :-)