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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd US
Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used to detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking to his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually *does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act live in or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas... Oh yeah...one more thing... Don't look directly at the light. |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
How long did you think he should've been held as an enemy combatant?
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used to detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking to his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually *does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act live in or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas... Oh yeah...one more thing... Don't look directly at the light. |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
Forever.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news How long did you think he should've been held as an enemy combatant? "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used to detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking to his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually *does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act live in or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas... Oh yeah...one more thing... Don't look directly at the light. |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
Forever.
NOYB, you were born 150 years too late. Get thee down to a library and do a bit of research on the Lincoln Assassination. You will discover that the suspects, (yes there were quite a number beyond JWB), were held in prison under conditions you would applaud. They were individually and solitarily confined, wearing canvas hoods with tiny air holes. They were gagged except when eating, and never allowed to speak to *anybody*. You'd think their military trial was a real hoot, as well. Most likely, all were guilty as hell. Trouble was, there were some *very* nervous public officials who didn't get a good night's sleep until the lot of them were finally hanged and silenced forever. *That's* one of the dangers of your Patriot Act. It can be used to silence people who are guilty of knowing too much about particular parties. Not saying that is the situation in Padilla's case, but it is a possibility any time the POTUS can unilaterally order an individual held "forever" without charges, trial, or access to an attorney. |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
Gould 0738 wrote:
Get thee down to a library and do a bit of research on the Lincoln Assassination. NOYB and his ilk are intellectually incapable of applying history to the present or future. They must honestly believe that if something did not occur since they obtained their first television then it can not occur in their lifetime. They are incapable of relating historical events to current political expedients. Like gluttons, they prefer to delight in the feast and turn their backs to the inevitable cost of such indulgence. They are truly frightening in their ignorance. They are the flagbearers for political evil and social disintegration. Rick |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
"Rick" wrote in message ink.net... Gould 0738 wrote: Get thee down to a library and do a bit of research on the Lincoln Assassination. NOYB and his ilk are intellectually incapable of applying history to the present or future. They must honestly believe that if something did not occur since they obtained their first television then it can not occur in their lifetime. They are incapable of relating historical events to current political expedients. Like gluttons, they prefer to delight in the feast and turn their backs to the inevitable cost of such indulgence. What do *you* feel is the "inevitable cost of such indulgence"? I know the cost of *recent history*. I know the cost of allowing criminals and terrorists to use our civil liberties and open society as loopholes to wage war against us. I also know the cost of history from 60+ years ago...the cost of letting a brutal tyrant go unchecked. I know the cost of thousands of years of religious strife in which one religion has tried to exterminate other religions. I also know that this is the current goal of the modern Muslim fundamentalist...our extermination They are truly frightening in their ignorance. They are the flagbearers for political evil and social disintegration. Your fear is directed in entirely the wrong direction. It'd be sad, if it weren't so scary. |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
"NOYB" wrote in message
et... Forever. If your kid was a captured POW and the enemy said "forever", you'd be whining ad infinitum about the Geneva Convention, you pansy. :-) |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
My kid doesn't try and take on the World's most powerful nation. Padilla
did...and got caught. If his side wins the war, then he'll be freed. If his side loses (which they will), he'll remain behind bars forever. The same would be true about my son. If he were a POW, he'd be freed as soon as his country opened up a can of whoop-ass on his captors. BTW--I'm not for the death penalty, so I don't want to see the guy hanged. If it's possible to subdue a threat through non-lethal means, and lock them up permanently, than killing someone is not necessary. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message et... Forever. If your kid was a captured POW and the enemy said "forever", you'd be whining ad infinitum about the Geneva Convention, you pansy. :-) |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd US
Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used to detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking to his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually *does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act live in or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas... Oh yeah...one more thing... Don't look directly at the light. So we should let George Bush "nuke" the Bill of Rights to try and preserve the American way? Sorry, makes no sense to me at all. But, it is nice to know that there was only *1* (one, as in singular) person in the US who would ever consider a sick, criminal, terrorist activity like setting off a deadly bomb. I guess the whole country was completely safe as long as this sole, nut case, US citizen was locked up indefinitely without being charged with a crime and without access to counsel. If he is suspected of a crime, let him be charged with a crime and prosecuted. If it's a serious crime, he can be kept in jail without bail at the judge's option- just like any other criminal suspect. Meanwhile, there are risks associated with freedom. Some people will use or abuse our social freedoms to commit crimes. The solution is not to curtail the rights of a free society, but rather to vigorously prosecute the criminals. If Jose Padilla is a threat to the United States, I don't care if he never emerges from prison again....but it has to be done according to the Constitution. |
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OT--If you're a liberal, be careful what you ask for
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Well, apparently you liberals will get your wish. Apparently, the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals has decided that the Patriot Act can't be used to detain Jose Padilla as an enemy combatant. When the guy starts talking to his accomplices via his attorney, and the dirty nuke attack eventually *does* takes place, won't you be glad you got what you wished for? http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031218/D7VGT6E00.html The ironic thing is...those who most strongly oppose the Patriot Act live in or near the large cities that are most likely to be targeted by the terrorists who will be released by today's ruling. Merry Christmas... Oh yeah...one more thing... Don't look directly at the light. So we should let George Bush "nuke" the Bill of Rights to try and preserve the American way? Sorry, makes no sense to me at all. But, it is nice to know that there was only *1* (one, as in singular) person in the US who would ever consider a sick, criminal, terrorist activity like setting off a deadly bomb. I guess the whole country was completely safe as long as this sole, nut case, US citizen was locked up indefinitely without being charged with a crime and without access to counsel. If he is suspected of a crime, let him be charged with a crime and prosecuted. If it's a serious crime, he can be kept in jail without bail at the judge's option- just like any other criminal suspect. Meanwhile, there are risks associated with freedom. Some people will use or abuse our social freedoms to commit crimes. The solution is not to curtail the rights of a free society, but rather to vigorously prosecute the criminals. If Jose Padilla is a threat to the United States, I don't care if he never emerges from prison again....but it has to be done according to the Constitution. I don't care if they try him through the usual court system. However, he needs to be held incommunicado...and his attorney needs to be screened thoroughly for any potential links to fundamentalist Islam. |
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