So we decided to go out for a short day of boating. Put into the Hudson
River
at the Ramp in Hudson NY. Headed North for about an hour and stopped
at what turned out to be a private marina. A boat owner there told us there
was a decent restaurant about another 20 to 30 minutes upriver, so we went.

When we get to the restaurant/marina I'm driving. I circle around about 4
times
deciding where the best place to dock is. A guy on the dock notices my
circling and pobably thinks I'm worried about docking. So as I approach
a the finger pier of my choice he's there waiting to help us. Nice.

I have a good approach and am coming in at just about the right angle
and speed. I decided to give it just a little reverse thrust to slow things
down. A moment later I decided we're just a liiiiite to far from the dock
and I'd like to give it a jab forward to kick the bow a little closer. So
I put it in gear - but feel no thrust in the boat. I give a little more gas
and do it again. Still no thrust.

By now we've floated gently close enough, a rope is thrown to the
gentleman on the dock, and my brother get off the stern and ties us
up.

At this point only I really know anything is wrong. I open the engine
cover and my Dad says, "Hey, there's quite a lot of water coming in
there. More then ususal."

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!

A moments thought and we realize the water coming in is not really
that much and the pumps will be able to keep up easily for a long time.
We stuff a sock into the hole anyway to slow the flow.

Next I realize someone will have to go into that cold water to figure
out if the shaft is anywhere to be found. I get into a bathing suit and
lower myself in. Some people on another boat are, I'm told later, looking
at my like I'm crazy.

Turns out the shaft & prop is still there. I forgot, but the shaft can't
slide past the rudder with the prop on it. I push a few times on the shaft
but is doesn't appear inside the hull. Then my brother reminds me that
it's keyed and I should slowly turn it while pushing. Sure enought after
about a 1/4 turn is slides in.

We tightend up the three set screws and gave it a little test but something
doesn't seem quite right. We loosen the screws and run it in FORWARD
to put more pressure on the prop & shaft. After all, I was only pushing it
in there while in the water with nothing to hold to. Now we tighten up
the set-screws and it seems much better.

Drove her the 1.5 hours back South with no problems.

(Oh, somewhere in there - after the swim but before the set-screw tests -
we had a nice lunch.)

Overall a good fun day of boating with a litle story, a lesson learned
(Keep those set screws tight) and no serious problems.

See Ya,
Gary

Way to go! Nothing works like keeping cool, analyizing the situation to
decide what could be wrong and what to do about it. Congratulations.
What kind of boat?

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

So we decided to go out for a short day of boating. Put into the Hudson
River
at the Ramp in Hudson NY. Headed North for about an hour and stopped
at what turned out to be a private marina. A boat owner there told us
there
was a decent restaurant about another 20 to 30 minutes upriver, so we
went.

When we get to the restaurant/marina I'm driving. I circle around about 4
times
deciding where the best place to dock is. A guy on the dock notices my
circling and pobably thinks I'm worried about docking. So as I approach
a the finger pier of my choice he's there waiting to help us. Nice.

I have a good approach and am coming in at just about the right angle
and speed. I decided to give it just a little reverse thrust to slow
things
down. A moment later I decided we're just a liiiiite to far from the dock
and I'd like to give it a jab forward to kick the bow a little closer. So
I put it in gear - but feel no thrust in the boat. I give a little more
gas
and do it again. Still no thrust.

By now we've floated gently close enough, a rope is thrown to the
gentleman on the dock, and my brother get off the stern and ties us
up.

At this point only I really know anything is wrong. I open the engine
cover and my Dad says, "Hey, there's quite a lot of water coming in
there. More then ususal."

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!

A moments thought and we realize the water coming in is not really
that much and the pumps will be able to keep up easily for a long time.
We stuff a sock into the hole anyway to slow the flow.

Next I realize someone will have to go into that cold water to figure
out if the shaft is anywhere to be found. I get into a bathing suit and
lower myself in. Some people on another boat are, I'm told later, looking
at my like I'm crazy.

Turns out the shaft & prop is still there. I forgot, but the shaft can't
slide past the rudder with the prop on it. I push a few times on the
shaft
but is doesn't appear inside the hull. Then my brother reminds me that
it's keyed and I should slowly turn it while pushing. Sure enought after
about a 1/4 turn is slides in.

We tightend up the three set screws and gave it a little test but
something
doesn't seem quite right. We loosen the screws and run it in FORWARD
to put more pressure on the prop & shaft. After all, I was only pushing it
in there while in the water with nothing to hold to. Now we tighten up
the set-screws and it seems much better.

Drove her the 1.5 hours back South with no problems.

(Oh, somewhere in there - after the swim but before the set-screw tests -
we had a nice lunch.)

Overall a good fun day of boating with a litle story, a lesson learned
(Keep those set screws tight) and no serious problems.

See Ya,
Gary

"William G. Andersen" wrote in message
news:Bgead.42240$a85.11798@fed1read04...
Way to go! Nothing works like keeping cool, analyizing the situation to
decide what could be wrong and what to do about it. Congratulations.
What kind of boat?


It's a 1959 Chris Craft Sea Skiff. Many here in rec.boats have helped
me answer questions and think through options through our 2+ year
restoration process. As always I thank them for their help!


Restoration (93 Pics): http://tinyurl.com/spsv
Building the trailer (14 pics): http://tinyurl.com/3apc6
Our 1st Day Out (July 11, 2004): http://tinyurl.com/4coae

cool story, but that's scary. other than keeping an eye on the screws what
more could you do so that never happens again?

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

So we decided to go out for a short day of boating. Put into the Hudson
River
at the Ramp in Hudson NY. Headed North for about an hour and stopped
at what turned out to be a private marina. A boat owner there told us
there
was a decent restaurant about another 20 to 30 minutes upriver, so we
went.

When we get to the restaurant/marina I'm driving. I circle around about 4
times
deciding where the best place to dock is. A guy on the dock notices my
circling and pobably thinks I'm worried about docking. So as I approach
a the finger pier of my choice he's there waiting to help us. Nice.

I have a good approach and am coming in at just about the right angle
and speed. I decided to give it just a little reverse thrust to slow
things
down. A moment later I decided we're just a liiiiite to far from the dock
and I'd like to give it a jab forward to kick the bow a little closer. So
I put it in gear - but feel no thrust in the boat. I give a little more
gas
and do it again. Still no thrust.

By now we've floated gently close enough, a rope is thrown to the
gentleman on the dock, and my brother get off the stern and ties us
up.

At this point only I really know anything is wrong. I open the engine
cover and my Dad says, "Hey, there's quite a lot of water coming in
there. More then ususal."

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!

A moments thought and we realize the water coming in is not really
that much and the pumps will be able to keep up easily for a long time.
We stuff a sock into the hole anyway to slow the flow.

Next I realize someone will have to go into that cold water to figure
out if the shaft is anywhere to be found. I get into a bathing suit and
lower myself in. Some people on another boat are, I'm told later, looking
at my like I'm crazy.

Turns out the shaft & prop is still there. I forgot, but the shaft can't
slide past the rudder with the prop on it. I push a few times on the
shaft
but is doesn't appear inside the hull. Then my brother reminds me that
it's keyed and I should slowly turn it while pushing. Sure enought after
about a 1/4 turn is slides in.

We tightend up the three set screws and gave it a little test but
something
doesn't seem quite right. We loosen the screws and run it in FORWARD
to put more pressure on the prop & shaft. After all, I was only pushing it
in there while in the water with nothing to hold to. Now we tighten up
the set-screws and it seems much better.

Drove her the 1.5 hours back South with no problems.

(Oh, somewhere in there - after the swim but before the set-screw tests -
we had a nice lunch.)

Overall a good fun day of boating with a litle story, a lesson learned
(Keep those set screws tight) and no serious problems.

See Ya,
Gary

Great story, glad to see someone actually HAS a boat on this NG.

Don

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

So we decided to go out for a short day of boating. Put into the Hudson
River
at the Ramp in Hudson NY. Headed North for about an hour and stopped
at what turned out to be a private marina. A boat owner there told us
there
was a decent restaurant about another 20 to 30 minutes upriver, so we
went.

When we get to the restaurant/marina I'm driving. I circle around about 4
times
deciding where the best place to dock is. A guy on the dock notices my
circling and pobably thinks I'm worried about docking. So as I approach
a the finger pier of my choice he's there waiting to help us. Nice.

I have a good approach and am coming in at just about the right angle
and speed. I decided to give it just a little reverse thrust to slow
things
down. A moment later I decided we're just a liiiiite to far from the dock
and I'd like to give it a jab forward to kick the bow a little closer. So
I put it in gear - but feel no thrust in the boat. I give a little more
gas
and do it again. Still no thrust.

By now we've floated gently close enough, a rope is thrown to the
gentleman on the dock, and my brother get off the stern and ties us
up.

At this point only I really know anything is wrong. I open the engine
cover and my Dad says, "Hey, there's quite a lot of water coming in
there. More then ususal."

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!

A moments thought and we realize the water coming in is not really
that much and the pumps will be able to keep up easily for a long time.
We stuff a sock into the hole anyway to slow the flow.

Next I realize someone will have to go into that cold water to figure
out if the shaft is anywhere to be found. I get into a bathing suit and
lower myself in. Some people on another boat are, I'm told later, looking
at my like I'm crazy.

Turns out the shaft & prop is still there. I forgot, but the shaft can't
slide past the rudder with the prop on it. I push a few times on the
shaft
but is doesn't appear inside the hull. Then my brother reminds me that
it's keyed and I should slowly turn it while pushing. Sure enought after
about a 1/4 turn is slides in.

We tightend up the three set screws and gave it a little test but
something
doesn't seem quite right. We loosen the screws and run it in FORWARD
to put more pressure on the prop & shaft. After all, I was only pushing it
in there while in the water with nothing to hold to. Now we tighten up
the set-screws and it seems much better.

Drove her the 1.5 hours back South with no problems.

(Oh, somewhere in there - after the swim but before the set-screw tests -
we had a nice lunch.)

Overall a good fun day of boating with a litle story, a lesson learned
(Keep those set screws tight) and no serious problems.

See Ya,
Gary

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

So we decided to go out for a short day of boating. Put into the Hudson
River
at the Ramp in Hudson NY. Headed North for about an hour and stopped
at what turned out to be a private marina. A boat owner there told us
there
was a decent restaurant about another 20 to 30 minutes upriver, so we
went.

When we get to the restaurant/marina I'm driving. I circle around about 4
times
deciding where the best place to dock is. A guy on the dock notices my
circling and pobably thinks I'm worried about docking. So as I approach
a the finger pier of my choice he's there waiting to help us. Nice.

I have a good approach and am coming in at just about the right angle
and speed. I decided to give it just a little reverse thrust to slow
things
down. A moment later I decided we're just a liiiiite to far from the dock
and I'd like to give it a jab forward to kick the bow a little closer. So
I put it in gear - but feel no thrust in the boat. I give a little more
gas
and do it again. Still no thrust.

By now we've floated gently close enough, a rope is thrown to the
gentleman on the dock, and my brother get off the stern and ties us
up.

At this point only I really know anything is wrong. I open the engine
cover and my Dad says, "Hey, there's quite a lot of water coming in
there. More then ususal."

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!

A moments thought and we realize the water coming in is not really
that much and the pumps will be able to keep up easily for a long time.
We stuff a sock into the hole anyway to slow the flow.

Next I realize someone will have to go into that cold water to figure
out if the shaft is anywhere to be found. I get into a bathing suit and
lower myself in. Some people on another boat are, I'm told later, looking
at my like I'm crazy.

Turns out the shaft & prop is still there. I forgot, but the shaft can't
slide past the rudder with the prop on it. I push a few times on the
shaft
but is doesn't appear inside the hull. Then my brother reminds me that
it's keyed and I should slowly turn it while pushing. Sure enought after
about a 1/4 turn is slides in.

We tightend up the three set screws and gave it a little test but
something
doesn't seem quite right. We loosen the screws and run it in FORWARD
to put more pressure on the prop & shaft. After all, I was only pushing it
in there while in the water with nothing to hold to. Now we tighten up
the set-screws and it seems much better.

Drove her the 1.5 hours back South with no problems.

(Oh, somewhere in there - after the swim but before the set-screw tests -
we had a nice lunch.)

Overall a good fun day of boating with a litle story, a lesson learned
(Keep those set screws tight) and no serious problems.

See Ya,
Gary

Nice. Sorry about the problem, but thank goodness it turned out ok...good
work!


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Subject: Went for a Swim in the Hudson Yesterday (Had to)
From: "Gary Warner"

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!


Get a shaft collar zinc (http://www.zincsmart.com/) and clamp it to the shaft
just before your stuffing box. That way if the shaft ever comes loose from the
coupler again it can't slide down the tube. In fact if the zinc is close enough
to the stuffing box it can't even slide out of the coupler.

Capt. Bill

hehe.... cool.

I once dove for a very expensive bronze prop in the North Atlantic in late
April. (Portsmouth Harbor - NH)

The boat owners treated myself and my wife to *fine* lobster dinner after I
actually came up with it on the 5th dive off the town warf.

What I never told them is that I was in the last 4 seconds of the last try
when I saw it. After 5 minutes in - I was too cold for a dive #6, as it was
it took me about 45 minutes to warm up enough to be comfortable sitting and
doing "dining stuff".

When you first dive in, it feels like needles..... then if you let "target
fixation" take over, you can enjoy 5 minutes or so of "comfortably numb"
before signs of hypothermia set in. It was one of those "human limits"
experiences that I actually treasure. I wonder if I'd feel that way if I
failed to find the prop?

-W




"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

So we decided to go out for a short day of boating. Put into the Hudson
River
at the Ramp in Hudson NY. Headed North for about an hour and stopped
at what turned out to be a private marina. A boat owner there told us
there
was a decent restaurant about another 20 to 30 minutes upriver, so we
went.

When we get to the restaurant/marina I'm driving. I circle around about 4
times
deciding where the best place to dock is. A guy on the dock notices my
circling and pobably thinks I'm worried about docking. So as I approach
a the finger pier of my choice he's there waiting to help us. Nice.

I have a good approach and am coming in at just about the right angle
and speed. I decided to give it just a little reverse thrust to slow
things
down. A moment later I decided we're just a liiiiite to far from the dock
and I'd like to give it a jab forward to kick the bow a little closer. So
I put it in gear - but feel no thrust in the boat. I give a little more
gas
and do it again. Still no thrust.

By now we've floated gently close enough, a rope is thrown to the
gentleman on the dock, and my brother get off the stern and ties us
up.

At this point only I really know anything is wrong. I open the engine
cover and my Dad says, "Hey, there's quite a lot of water coming in
there. More then ususal."

Turns out the prop shaft has come loose from it's coupling to the engine
and has dropped down stem-log tube!!

A moments thought and we realize the water coming in is not really
that much and the pumps will be able to keep up easily for a long time.
We stuff a sock into the hole anyway to slow the flow.

Next I realize someone will have to go into that cold water to figure
out if the shaft is anywhere to be found. I get into a bathing suit and
lower myself in. Some people on another boat are, I'm told later, looking
at my like I'm crazy.

Turns out the shaft & prop is still there. I forgot, but the shaft can't
slide past the rudder with the prop on it. I push a few times on the
shaft
but is doesn't appear inside the hull. Then my brother reminds me that
it's keyed and I should slowly turn it while pushing. Sure enought after
about a 1/4 turn is slides in.

We tightend up the three set screws and gave it a little test but
something
doesn't seem quite right. We loosen the screws and run it in FORWARD
to put more pressure on the prop & shaft. After all, I was only pushing it
in there while in the water with nothing to hold to. Now we tighten up
the set-screws and it seems much better.

Drove her the 1.5 hours back South with no problems.

(Oh, somewhere in there - after the swim but before the set-screw tests -
we had a nice lunch.)

Overall a good fun day of boating with a litle story, a lesson learned
(Keep those set screws tight) and no serious problems.

See Ya,
Gary