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Gunner September 14th 04 08:12 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:53:35 GMT, "Jeffrey McCann"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:09:00 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.


Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.


East Germany wasn't conquered by Communism.

Idiot.


The Harlem Globetrotters? Seventh Day Adventists?
No..Ive got it..it was the MOONIES!!!!!!!! Yes thats right..the evil
get of Karl Marx and an unnamed Eurasion woman.

YES!!! The Berlin Wall was put up by the Moonies.

The mines, the guard towers, the barbed wire..the incesant hammering
of the machine guns as people tried desperately to flee the Moonies!

Yes!

And of course it was that evil Moonie Yosef Stalin who starved about 3
million Kulacks and Ukranians.

The Symbol of the Moonies is the Hammer and Sickle, correct?

And the Moonies were the brain child of a failed idology developed by
Ingals and Marx, and enforced by Mad Felix and Berria and other evil
Moonies. The Moonie Purges in the 30s..yes indeed!

(as the sounds of the Internationale swell in the background, while
columns of Moonie missile launchers and little Moonie girl children
with baskets of flower peddles pass the viewing stand)

Idiot.


However, the Rev. Moon is great supporter of George Bush, and vice versa.
This may offer some further insight into Bush's alleged Christian values his
supporters are so fond of parading around for public consumption.

Jeff


Huh? Im Buddhist. I like Bush. I will vote for Bush. The means he is
not a Christian?

Nurse!!!! The Thorazine for Mr. McCann. Push!

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Thom September 14th 04 10:37 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:11:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:25:33 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

heh. You're kidding right? ONE call from the Secret Service to
Australia, then one call from someone in the Australian government to
Thom's isp.
2 calls, probably 5 minutes.
Oops. 3 calls:



All communications that enter or leave the US are automaticly screened
by the NSA.

The guy in Australia could be proxying from South America, or Russia.

And Carnivore and Echelon would still tag him.


Gee, I'd feel ignored if they didn't! :-) Want to get tagged? Use
one of the 117 key words they use to separate suspecious messages.

Does anyone around here really believe that both the Dems and Pugs
don't monitor this (alt.politics.bush) and other news groups (like the
Kerry site) to get a feel for public opinion?

THOM

Thom September 14th 04 10:50 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:42:19 GMT, Wolf2ii
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:46:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 17:31:33 -0400, Julian D.
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:13 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:01 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 02:47:20 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:51:01 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.

Osama and Co. is a Religious Fundimentalist. Not a right winger.
McVeigh was a stooge for the left wing Clinton Administration. Cheney
did what exactly?

Right, and the Greens really work for big business. Fundamentalism IS
RIGHT WING! McVeigh was a right wing good ole boy who stupidly blamed
Waco on Clinton when in fact it was Bush41. he lashed out at the
system as any good American would after WACO but did it in a manner as
bad as WACO.

Cheney? Draft dodger, Coward, Haliburton whore and man in the white
house. Shoot the *******!

Thom...you actually think hiding in Australia prevents you from being
investigated, or even interviewed by the Secret Service about you
advocating that the Vice President should be shot?
Not to be rude, but are you an idiot?


It does give him a bit of anonymity.


heh. You're kidding right? ONE call from the Secret Service to
Australia, then one call from someone in the Australian government to
Thom's isp.


Guess what... I am my ISP.
2 calls, probably 5 minutes.
Oops. 3 calls:

yes, one to my lawyer to start a lawsuit against you. Australia isn't
a fascists state like the US has become and you can't play ghestopo
games like that here


Thom, I am surprise, I don't think the US is a fascist state, lived
here all my life


Can you go in a gun store and buy a 30 round magazine? Can you buy a
gun before someone checks you out? Look at the Patriot Acts?

Also look at Benito Mussolinis 1929 book on his creation... Fascism.
he describes it as the blending of government and corporate interests
and that's what the USA is right now.


You see old girl, McCarthy died in a mental insitution and the old
days of turning in reds under your bed are long gone even though your
fuhrur Bush wants them back.

Every e-mail, ever usenet message is monitored by ESCHELON and they
are quite aware who I am and what I do including the fact I ran for
Parliament last election. I didn't say anything during the election
then that I don't say now. In fact whats this? Shock horror!


They tried to get me to run, my friends wanted me to run for a local
office,both the Democrats and GOP--I think I would have won, but I got
ill, ended up in the VA Hospital


One hopes your better and thank you for participating in the
democratic process. I ran in 2002 and lost to Labor who got 58% after
preferences. We need less professional politicians (in both
countries), term limits and more of the common man in office.


http://www.vic.greens.org.au/electio...rrensouth.html

So I'll repeat myself. Bush and Cheney are Viet Nam cowards and not
fit to be in the white house. I am not happy with Kerry but he is
10,000X's better than the two goose stepping fascists in the white
house now so its a matter of the lesser of two evils this election.


I disagree, I am not happy with Bush, but if you ignore the hype, he
did serve and even tried to volunteer for Vietnam, he was turned down
for lack of hours in the air


Sorry I don't buy it. If he wanted to go all he had to do was go full
time and ask. he didn't have to fly to do it either.

Cheney, hell he was 27 in 68, he had a family and in no fear of being
drafted


so he should have served when he was 18 to 24 and no family like the
rest of us did.

Me , I was prime age, I volunteered to get people home, refuse to
carry a weapon after awhile--Hospital Corpsman


Good lot the corpsman and the dudes with the worse PTSD especially
with body party collection issues.

I was young and stupid, I was wounded a few times on Sept 17,1969, but
I think I would do it again


The funny thing is too many of us feel that way. Our lives were never
worse yet never better at the same time. We lived to a level than
made civilian life totally boring.

But I don't think Kerry should never hold any office,ever


I actually agree with you but Bush has to go. I normally vote third
party but Bush scares me so much I fear what he could do.

30 years ago ,he lied, most Vets let it alone, we just wanted to get
on with our lives, now he has base his Vietnam experience to run for
President-I would say I, but now I understand thousand of us Vets are
****ed-off at him--he could not let it alone, he made us think about
it and his lies


Noithing wrong with bringing up the Nam. Keep it deep inside and your
asking for PTSD.

He should have ran on his senate record, but that is a sham
Guess he thought we were all either dead or didn't care--HE IS WRONG


again what's Bush's record as GOV? How many arrests? How many black
men executed while white fellas got reprieves? How many companies
bankrupted and whats his connection with Bin laden? Kerry is just the
better of two very bad choices and until we get preferential voting
we're stuck with it.

I was and am a proud member of India Company, 3rd Battalion, 4th
Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division.


welcome home brother
THOM

Thom September 14th 04 10:52 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:46:19 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:46:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:


heh. You're kidding right? ONE call from the Secret Service to
Australia, then one call from someone in the Australian government to
Thom's isp.


Guess what... I am my ISP.
2 calls, probably 5 minutes.
Oops. 3 calls:

yes, one to my lawyer to start a lawsuit against you. Australia isn't
a fascists state like the US has become and you can't play ghestopo
games like that here



Actually..they could if they wanted to.

And if they were serious about it, you would be walking along, minding
your own business and pop pop pop, some fellow would put 3 22lr rounds
in the back of your neck.


Now there I'll agree with you. Project Phoenix all over again.

This of course severs the spinal cord,
ruptures the nerve gangula at the base of your brain stem. You will
become instantly paralyised, even if the bullets dont kill you, it
will wipe out your autonomic nervous system, and you will forget to
breath. Death takes about 3 minutes before you loose conciousness
(roughly) and you will be starving for air all that time..as the
lights slowly fade out and you pinpoint that last little bit of
sight....then about two minutes later brain death sets in as it rounds
out of O2 and the synapses start firing at random.

Your body may or may not l "Do the Chicken" as motor nerves also fire
at random due to the brain stem being severed. The body may kick
itself in any direction, even upside down. But you wouldnt notice.
Shrug


Nah, when you as fat as I am now the shire weight would keep me
centered on the ground holding the daisy! :-)

Never say never..google "John Bull" + Mossad


pop pop pop...and thats all it takes...and there is not a damned thing
a lawyer can do about it. Unless his name is Jesus....chuckle


Better use a .32 made by HiVel. Too much fat for a .22

THOM

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 10:53 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:10:05 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:06:21 -0400, Julian D.
wrote:

Cheney? Draft dodger, Coward, Haliburton whore and man in the white
house. Shoot the *******!


Thom...you actually think hiding in Australia prevents you from being
investigated, or even interviewed by the Secret Service about you
advocating that the Vice President should be shot?
Not to be rude, but are you an idiot?


Based on his posts so far..I think we can agree he is indeed.


I'm sorry bit the label idiot is reserved for people who vote for Bush
yet a second time :-)

THOM

Gunner
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 10:56 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:49:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:38 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

As I get older I prefer to live in a socialist country rather than to
be left to die in the streets of America or rolled out into the
parking lot on a girney to freeze while they call a truck to drag me
to a charity hospital like so many older Americans.


Do the rest of the Aussies know you are calling them Socialists?


gee I hope so. I try and compliment them as much as possible. And
speaking of socialism I saw the doctor today and it didn't cost me a
cent. I rode the tram today for pennies and I went to the biggest
Museum in the State for free.

THOM


The US has to wake up to the fact the world is changing and the type
of country we are (especially the medical system) just isn't on any
more. The world is so anti-US now because of Bush. we X-pats
generally tell people here we're Canadian if our accents can get away
with it.

THOM



Goodonya Mate. We dont miss you at all.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 11:05 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:46:02 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:09:00 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.


Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.



East Germany wasn't conquered by Communism.


East Germany didn't exist in WW2 or didn't you notice that? The DDR
was never invaded or conquored by anyone.

Idiot.


The Harlem Globetrotters? Seventh Day Adventists?
No..Ive got it..it was the MOONIES!!!!!!!! Yes thats right..the evil
get of Karl Marx and an unnamed Eurasion woman.

YES!!! The Berlin Wall was put up by the Moonies.


and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

The mines, the guard towers, the barbed wire..the incesant hammering
of the machine guns as people tried desperately to flee the Moonies!


and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

Yes!

And of course it was that evil Moonie Yosef Stalin who starved about 3
million Kulacks and Ukranians.


and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

The Symbol of the Moonies is the Hammer and Sickle, correct?


No the dollar sigh

And the Moonies were the brain child of a failed idology developed by
Ingals and Marx, and enforced by Mad Felix and Berria and other evil
Moonies. The Moonie Purges in the 30s..yes indeed!


Nope, its a right wing scam

(as the sounds of the Internationale swell in the background, while
columns of Moonie missile launchers and little Moonie girl children
with baskets of flower peddles pass the viewing stand)

and this has to do with the DDR being invaded and conquored how?

The Russians invaded the Third Reich in 1944 and the war ended in
1945. East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische
Republik or DDR) was founded in 1949.

Care to refute that?

Thom

Thom September 14th 04 11:06 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:12:10 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:53:35 GMT, "Jeffrey McCann"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:09:00 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.


Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.


East Germany wasn't conquered by Communism.

Idiot.

The Harlem Globetrotters? Seventh Day Adventists?
No..Ive got it..it was the MOONIES!!!!!!!! Yes thats right..the evil
get of Karl Marx and an unnamed Eurasion woman.

YES!!! The Berlin Wall was put up by the Moonies.

The mines, the guard towers, the barbed wire..the incesant hammering
of the machine guns as people tried desperately to flee the Moonies!

Yes!

And of course it was that evil Moonie Yosef Stalin who starved about 3
million Kulacks and Ukranians.

The Symbol of the Moonies is the Hammer and Sickle, correct?

And the Moonies were the brain child of a failed idology developed by
Ingals and Marx, and enforced by Mad Felix and Berria and other evil
Moonies. The Moonie Purges in the 30s..yes indeed!

(as the sounds of the Internationale swell in the background, while
columns of Moonie missile launchers and little Moonie girl children
with baskets of flower peddles pass the viewing stand)

Idiot.


However, the Rev. Moon is great supporter of George Bush, and vice versa.
This may offer some further insight into Bush's alleged Christian values his
supporters are so fond of parading around for public consumption.

Jeff


Huh? Im Buddhist. I like Bush. I will vote for Bush. The means he is
not a Christian?


A buddhist for Bush? Talk about screwed up Che!

THOM

Nurse!!!! The Thorazine for Mr. McCann. Push!

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 11:07 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...



Election 2000, we will never forget.


Yup day one leading up to 911.

THOM

Thom September 14th 04 11:09 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:32:07 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:05:17 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Especially when you're voting for the guy that's going to lose.


At least we're still allowed to vote Probably the last time if Bush
gets reappointed, much like Hitler in 1933.

THOM

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?



Thom September 14th 04 11:10 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:55:15 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Ayup..but this time we are watching the Liberals a lot closer.


and not watching the crooked vote counting in Florida? Whyt am I not
surprised? Got the land for the Concentration camps bought yet?

THOM

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 11:11 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:13:57 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.



Bush will never be my President.

Unless you live outside of the US and its territories..snicker..he
will indeed be.

So suck it up there old wank and learn to live with 4 MORE YEARS


But Bush has been yelling w MORE BEERS!

THOM

chortle

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 14th 04 11:14 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:22:24 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:

"Julian D." wrote in message
...

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.

THOM


Bush is probably going to be re-elected because the Democrats have put up an
incompetent candidate. Sort of like the Republicans on 1996.



A stick of butter could get more votes than Bush.


I disagree. Ther eare millions of people who need a fuhrur to make
them feel safe and free from thinking for them selves. Bush will get
the dittohead vote for sure.

If Kerry acts like a moron too, we'll give him the boot in 2008.


Now you have it. Watch them like a hawk no matter what party they
belong too!

THOM

Election 2000, we will never forget.



Q September 14th 04 11:16 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:37:42 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

All communications that enter or leave the US are automaticly screened
by the NSA.

The guy in Australia could be proxying from South America, or Russia.

And Carnivore and Echelon would still tag him.


Gee, I'd feel ignored if they didn't! :-) Want to get tagged? Use
one of the 117 key words they use to separate suspecious messages.

Does anyone around here really believe that both the Dems and Pugs
don't monitor this (alt.politics.bush) and other news groups (like the
Kerry site) to get a feel for public opinion?


If you look at it from an IT view, these agencies are suffering from
an information overload. Hell of a lot of **** to wade through --
plain-text, encrypted and hidden in .gifs. .wavs, etc.

--
Q

Gunner September 14th 04 05:20 PM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:10:25 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:55:15 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...

Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Ayup..but this time we are watching the Liberals a lot closer.


and not watching the crooked vote counting in Florida? Whyt am I not
surprised? Got the land for the Concentration camps bought yet?

THOM


Ah..Thom..perhaps you are not aware of it..living in your own little
world..but the Florida Election Department was run pretty much by
Democrats. G

Now about that crooked vote counting again...G

Thanks for making my point for me. G


Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Gunner September 14th 04 05:21 PM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:05:41 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:


The Russians invaded the Third Reich in 1944 and the war ended in
1945. East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische
Republik or DDR) was founded in 1949.

Care to refute that?

Thom


The Russians were Moonies? Oh dear god.....


Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

blooddrippingsawbladesRUs September 14th 04 07:32 PM

The terrorists: Vietnam era National Guard. At the time the Guard was
made up of slackers, war avoider's and fortunate sons of the rich.

The victims: Innocent American school kids on their way to class.


ROFL

pyotr filipivich September 14th 04 08:07 PM

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:28:36 GMT in
misc.survivalism :


When are people going to learn that dissent is no longer the American way?
Outbursts against the government are disgusting and anti-American.

Dissent is very much the American Way. The internet is a prime example
of it.

However..violent actions while dissenting is unlawful, and very
counter productive. And will be punished.

If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.


Hear, hear.

Because "we" know that it will not be a "process" of noisy
demonstrations, but war, and a war in the shadows. We will steel our
hearts and really let the left-liberals know what being oppressed is all
about. And they will look back on the days of Bush and Ashcroft as "the
good times". God help them if some incompetent like Janet Reno is AG.


fark.

pyotr


--
pyotr filipivich
"Do not argue with the forces of nature, for you are small,
insignificant, and biodegradable."

pyotr filipivich September 14th 04 08:09 PM

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:36:24 GMT in
misc.survivalism :
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:56:11 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:



Communism was paranoid right wingnut delusion inflicted on the masses.

No Communist axis of evil existed except in the minds of the neocons.



Sure Comrade..sure.

Tell that to the Ukrainians, and the East Germans, and the Poles...etc
etc.

Tell that to those who's bodys were tossed into mass graves in the
Gulogs...

Sure Comrade..sure.


Tovarish, surely you must remember, The Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics was surrounded by hostile Communist Governments?

Terrible thing Comrade.

--
pyotr filipivich
What is normal?
"Two sigmas either side of mu.
You bring the cow." drieux.

Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:19 PM

Thom wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:05:17 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.



US elections resemble Sadaam's elections.


THOM

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?


Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:20 PM

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:05:17 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Especially when you're voting for the guy that's going to lose.




Did you used to be Sadaam's campaign manager?

Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:22 PM

Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Ayup..but this time we are watching the Liberals a lot closer.



Bush supporters are supporters of terror.

Gunner


Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:24 PM

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:28:20 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Nicholas Heyward wrote:
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Election 2000, we will never forget.

I should hope not.
The next time you Leftist *******s try to steal an election, you
should have someone besides the 3 Stooges in the planning department.


Divided we fall.

Good luck with your war plans.

Maybe Gunner will stop a bullet for Bush...or is he just brave on usenet?



I want to see these patriotic killer wannabees when the government
starts
looking for more soldiers.


The USA has never had any trouble finding soldiers and I doubt that we
will ever have, in spite of the existence of the girly-boy liberals.



I guess you missed Viet Nam.

Where the Liberals were drafted and the neocons were spared.

We should get plenty of flag waving Conservative volunteers.



Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:27 PM

Russ wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:28:20 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Nicholas Heyward wrote:
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Election 2000, we will never forget.

I should hope not.
The next time you Leftist *******s try to steal an election, you
should have someone besides the 3 Stooges in the planning department.


Divided we fall.

Good luck with your war plans.

Maybe Gunner will stop a bullet for Bush...or is he just brave on usenet?



I want to see these patriotic killer wannabees when the government
starts
looking for more soldiers.

We should get plenty of flag waving Conservative volunteers.


We'd better. We certainly won't get any chicken-**** socialists. Not
that they're needed.



Good, we'll be making your bullets for you.

I hope they work.


Russ


Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:28 PM

Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:00:28 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:



We will never forget.

Perhaps if all the Dems and Libs went on strike for a couple weeks?


Please do. It will make identifying your lot so much easier when it
comes time to bring out the rope.



Traitor.

Gunner


Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:29 PM

Gunner wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:22:47 -0400, Harry Krause


Maybe Gunner will stop a bullet for Bush...or is he just brave on usenet?


Me? Im just a ... loveable...



Bwahahahahahaha!

You spelt self deluded fool wrong.


Gunner


Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:31 PM

Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:20:18 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:


Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.

Unless you live outside of the US and its territories..snicker..he
will indeed be.



Your actions resemble those of the Hussein Regime.


Which actions are those? Disagreeing with you? Oooooooh..terrible.
But on the other hand..it was you Lefties that were perfectly happy to
let the rape camps and childrens prisons continue along.

You call it treason to not support your homicidal agenda.


Which homicidal agenda is that?


Too many to keep track of?

Go to work, give the client a good
days work for a good days pay, come home play with the dog, **** all
over you libs on the internet and then catch some sleep.
oooooo...really homicidal.

Comrade Gunner.


Make up your mind ****wit..either Im a Nazi Fascist or a Communist..I
wish you would get it straight. Snicker..you cannot even insult with
any continuity.



You are the offspring of both.

A blood-thirsty neocon traitor.

Chortle..no wonder you couldnt make it in the States and had to run to
"a socialist country" as you described it.

You are either a coward, or simply incompentent. Id have to say both
are likely.


So suck it up there old wank and learn to live with 4 MORE YEARS

chortle

\

Gunner


Nicholas Heyward September 14th 04 09:32 PM

Thom wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...



Election 2000, we will never forget.


Yup day one leading up to 911.



The downward spiral of the US.


THOM


Steve Canyon September 14th 04 11:38 PM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:56:08 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:49:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:38 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

As I get older I prefer to live in a socialist country rather than to
be left to die in the streets of America or rolled out into the
parking lot on a girney to freeze while they call a truck to drag me
to a charity hospital like so many older Americans.


Do the rest of the Aussies know you are calling them Socialists?


gee I hope so. I try and compliment them as much as possible. And
speaking of socialism I saw the doctor today and it didn't cost me a
cent. I rode the tram today for pennies and I went to the biggest
Museum in the State for free.

THOM


You see, Dumb Thom has been a failure in life and needs a nanny
government to take care of him.

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?


Steve Canyon September 14th 04 11:38 PM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:24:57 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:28:20 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Nicholas Heyward wrote:
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Election 2000, we will never forget.

I should hope not.
The next time you Leftist *******s try to steal an election, you
should have someone besides the 3 Stooges in the planning department.


Divided we fall.

Good luck with your war plans.

Maybe Gunner will stop a bullet for Bush...or is he just brave on usenet?



I want to see these patriotic killer wannabees when the government
starts
looking for more soldiers.


The USA has never had any trouble finding soldiers and I doubt that we
will ever have, in spite of the existence of the girly-boy liberals.



I guess you missed Viet Nam.

Where the Liberals were drafted and the neocons were spared.


Damned few liberals went to Viet Nam. If a liberal managed to make it
through Basic Training without losing his liberal momma's boy status,
they'd make em into cooks or some other non-combatants. None of the
real soldiers wanted to trust their lives to a sissy liberal.

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?


Steve Canyon September 14th 04 11:38 PM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:20:20 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:05:17 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:40:51 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Julian D. wrote:

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:35:11 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:28:02 -0600, "Four Moron MONTHS!" _ wrote:

E.E.Bud Keith wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Gunner wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:07:05 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you consider mayhem and assault, vandalism and violence to be
proper expressions of Dissent, then pray to whatever you hold holy
that the Right never takes your lead. We are the ones heavily armed,
military trained in killing people and breaking things. You will pray
for rocks if the Right ever uses your style of dissent.

Gunner


Yeah, the "right" sticks to blowing up federal office buildings,
abortion clinics, and invading the wrong countries...for now.

Cites? Or are you going to give me some cites about individuals?

Virtually all the terrorist attacks of significance in recent years have
been the work of conservative, right-wing assholes and the groups to
which they belong...Osama, McVeigh, Cheney, et al.



Want me to post some cites about individuals on the Left? I can you
know...quite a number.

I don't give a crap what you post, dickwiper. You're now in my bozo
bin, along with the other mental defectives.


Writing under another name again Brian, Posts by you under any name are so
easy to recognize. Written by and egomaniac who thinks that only he has the
right answer to every problem, And if someone dares to disagree with him, he
unleashes a torrent of vile hate and abusive langauge. Come to think of it
you remind me very much of the little corporal who so loved to hate
everybody in the world
And like your communist idols those that disagreed with him were eliminated.
For now you can only attempt to smear those you dislike with hate. But
should people like you ever can any real power the world is in for the
biggest blood bath in history.

Gunner, eh? Did your mama name you after the dog?


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!



Yes, anyone NOT being a ****ing right wing moron like "Bud"
just has to be a communist..
seeing things in balck and white does indicate a revulsion of critical
thinking. What the right wing Fuhrur worshipors don't seemed to
real;ize is that it is the duty of all citizens to watch their elected
representitives like a hawk no matter what party they are in including
their own.

When Kerry gets sworn in in January its time to put the microscope on
him too,

This news group will revert back to its original subject, the Bush
crime family, with a new touch on how to arrest and convict Bush for
his 4 years of crime and corruption.

Bush is going to be rewarded by re-election for being a great
President and protecting this country.


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...

Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Especially when you're voting for the guy that's going to lose.




Did you used to be Sadaam's campaign manager?


So you're going to vote for the losing candidate, eh?

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?


Steve Canyon September 14th 04 11:39 PM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:22:24 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...

Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM


Ayup..but this time we are watching the Liberals a lot closer.



Bush supporters are supporters of terror.


Kerry's supporter doesn't support much of anything....

Fact is, liberals don't even need supporters.....

nothing to put in them, you know.

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?


Thom September 15th 04 01:18 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 05:16:04 -0500, Q
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:37:42 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

All communications that enter or leave the US are automaticly screened
by the NSA.

The guy in Australia could be proxying from South America, or Russia.

And Carnivore and Echelon would still tag him.


Gee, I'd feel ignored if they didn't! :-) Want to get tagged? Use
one of the 117 key words they use to separate suspecious messages.

Does anyone around here really believe that both the Dems and Pugs
don't monitor this (alt.politics.bush) and other news groups (like the
Kerry site) to get a feel for public opinion?


If you look at it from an IT view, these agencies are suffering from
an information overload. Hell of a lot of **** to wade through --
plain-text, encrypted and hidden in .gifs. .wavs, etc.


Biggest problem is Gates and his crap about sending all e-mail as HTML
files. What a moron he is. Lets bulk up the net by 200% shall we?

Last year an anti-snooping group had a clog the net day and published
the 117 key words and asked people send several e-mails that day using
as many of the words as possible. They Govt just changed their
cryteria to discard anything with over a certain number of key words.

THOM

--
Q



Thom September 15th 04 01:28 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:38:54 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:56:08 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:49:17 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:34:38 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

As I get older I prefer to live in a socialist country rather than to
be left to die in the streets of America or rolled out into the
parking lot on a girney to freeze while they call a truck to drag me
to a charity hospital like so many older Americans.


Do the rest of the Aussies know you are calling them Socialists?


gee I hope so. I try and compliment them as much as possible. And
speaking of socialism I saw the doctor today and it didn't cost me a
cent. I rode the tram today for pennies and I went to the biggest
Museum in the State for free.

THOM


You see, Dumb Thom has been a failure in life and needs a nanny
government to take care of him.


Not really, I just don't want to waste my life dealing with things you
think are macho to deal with. Do you get a hardon when you send in
your insurance payments? I deal with it once a year, pay my taxes,
pay my medicare levy and I'm done with it. I then go on to enjoy life
as it was meant to be.

I sit back and enjoy the ride into town, read or talk with people
while you guys fight traffic and smog, blow your horns at each other
or shoot at each other on the freeways. I will outlive you by at
least 10 years and have a healthier extra 10 years than you but of
course if being the macho Marlborough Man gives you pleasure then
fine. Just don't expect sane people to want that kind of lifestyle.
Why you think that working a second job in a diner is preferable to
going to the symphony or a play at night is beyond me????

By the way, the Camberwell Chamber Orchestra at the Town Hall last
night, simply wonderful. Admission? Donation of your choice to a
charity. And how were things at the diner Steve?

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."


Not only the right but voting period should be an obligation like in
the rest of the free world.

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."


Much like votinbg for the neo-cons again

THOM

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?



Thom September 15th 04 01:29 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:21:42 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:05:41 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:


The Russians invaded the Third Reich in 1944 and the war ended in
1945. East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische
Republik or DDR) was founded in 1949.

Care to refute that?

Thom


The Russians were Moonies? Oh dear god.....


as bad as the Russians were they were never that dumb.

THOM


Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 15th 04 01:31 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:24:57 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:28:20 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Nicholas Heyward wrote:
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Election 2000, we will never forget.

I should hope not.
The next time you Leftist *******s try to steal an election, you
should have someone besides the 3 Stooges in the planning department.


Divided we fall.

Good luck with your war plans.

Maybe Gunner will stop a bullet for Bush...or is he just brave on usenet?



I want to see these patriotic killer wannabees when the government
starts
looking for more soldiers.


The USA has never had any trouble finding soldiers and I doubt that we
will ever have, in spite of the existence of the girly-boy liberals.



I guess you missed Viet Nam.

Where the Liberals were drafted and the neocons were spared.


I believe the military command for Neo-cons when they got their draft
notices was "RUN AWAY!"

THOM

We should get plenty of flag waving Conservative volunteers.




Thom September 15th 04 01:35 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:38:58 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:24:57 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Steve Canyon wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:28:20 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Nicholas Heyward wrote:
Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:26:04 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:


Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...


Election 2000, we will never forget.

I should hope not.
The next time you Leftist *******s try to steal an election, you
should have someone besides the 3 Stooges in the planning department.


Divided we fall.

Good luck with your war plans.

Maybe Gunner will stop a bullet for Bush...or is he just brave on usenet?



I want to see these patriotic killer wannabees when the government
starts
looking for more soldiers.

The USA has never had any trouble finding soldiers and I doubt that we
will ever have, in spite of the existence of the girly-boy liberals.



I guess you missed Viet Nam.

Where the Liberals were drafted and the neocons were spared.


Damned few liberals went to Viet Nam. If a liberal managed to make it
through Basic Training without losing his liberal momma's boy status,


I love this, McCarthy on steroids!

they'd make em into cooks or some other non-combatants. None of the
real soldiers wanted to trust their lives to a sissy liberal.


Well considering there were only two republicans in my unit in Nam I'd
say that's hard to swallow. But of course all the pussy sons of
republicans holding onto their deferment papers like a Raggity Ann
doll when I was in college after Nam says alot about your perceptions
of manhood doesn't it.

Next you'll be saying all the men at Valley Forge were conservitives
loyal to the King.

THOM

--

"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."

--Zepp Jamieson, 1996
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsg....snowcrest.net



"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."

--Zepp Jamieson,2000/02/15
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=38....snowcrest.net



"You just doubled the value of my vote."

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000/04/25
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=39....snowcrest.net



[...] if we decide elections by square miles, my vote is worth
200 Los Angeles votes.

--Zepp Jamieson, 2000-12-18
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=tb...x.com&oe=UTF-8



"Legal resident alien Zepp Jamieson, a Canadian who has lived
in the United States for more than 30 years, said his status
changed dramatically with the Patriot Act."

http://www.mtshastanews.com/archives...695-news11.txt



Legal resident aliens aren't allowed to vote, Jamieson.
Why were you pretending to be a citizen?



Harry Krause September 15th 04 01:37 AM

Thom wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:21:42 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:05:41 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:


The Russians invaded the Third Reich in 1944 and the war ended in
1945. East Germany (Deutsche Demokratische
Republik or DDR) was founded in 1949.

Care to refute that?

Thom


The Russians were Moonies? Oh dear god.....


as bad as the Russians were they were never that dumb.

THOM



Gunner isn't proud of the Moonies? They are on his side of the
political fence...mindless conservatives.


--
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
And don't forget to pay your taxes so the rich don't have to!

Thom September 15th 04 01:43 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:20:07 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:10:25 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:55:15 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT,
(Thom)
wrote:

Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...

Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM

Ayup..but this time we are watching the Liberals a lot closer.


and not watching the crooked vote counting in Florida? Whyt am I not
surprised? Got the land for the Concentration camps bought yet?

THOM


Ah..Thom..perhaps you are not aware of it..living in your own little
world..but the Florida Election Department was run pretty much by
Democrats. G


perhaops thats why Bushw as just caught trying to plant stooges in the
Department???

Now about that crooked vote counting again...G


when blacks, X-Cons, new residents etc can vote get back to us please.

THOM

Thanks for making my point for me. G


Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke



Thom September 15th 04 01:44 AM

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:39:00 GMT, Steve Canyon
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:22:24 GMT, Nicholas Heyward
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:49:39 GMT, (Thom)
wrote:

Bush will never be my President.


LOL As if you had any choice in the matter...

Now we finally agree on something Steve. Given the crooked elections
in Florida and other places, voting is almost a waste of time.

THOM

Ayup..but this time we are watching the Liberals a lot closer.



Bush supporters are supporters of terror.


Kerry's supporter doesn't support much of anything....

Fact is, liberals don't even need supporters.....


Yup, our balls ride so high and proud we don't need jock straps like
Bush and Cheny. :-)

THOM


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