On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:08:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
When you say "form factor" PC, you are talking about motherboard
configurations, right?

What would be the difference between your computer and a laptop for
instance?

My "small" pc has a footprint barely larger than a CD (squared), and
is about 3 inches high. It has no built in screen, pointing device or
keyboard. Those are the primary differences. Internally it is built
as a stack with the CDROM on the bottom, hard disk in the middle and
mother board on top.

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:03:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:08:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
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Foam (large sponge?) might be a good idea but the gimbal would be
overkill in my opinion. These things don't really care if they are
perfectly level or not. My laptops would have stopped working long
ago if that was the case.

Do you not use a disk drive?

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Of course.

Do you think a laptop disk drive cares about which way it's oriented?

Actually that's not my concern, but since you mentioned it, in a way
the read/record head does care how it flies over the surface of the
disk. Orientation (except for upside down) isn't really an issue
since they changed to voice coil actuation. However, the
manufacturers generally recommend a "standard" mount which I already
mentioned - the reason being that is how they are designed and tested
to work those ways.

I'm not recommending that you pick up your laptop and shake it or drop
it, but try picking it up and turning it in different directions. It
doesn't care. They would be unusable for their intended purpose
otherwise, and would come equipped with a bubble level on the cover.

So in your experience, you have not had vibration or shock problem
with the disc head on either the ROM or the memory disc?

Later,

Tom

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:08:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:08:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
When you say "form factor" PC, you are talking about motherboard
configurations, right?

What would be the difference between your computer and a laptop for
instance?

My "small" pc has a footprint barely larger than a CD (squared), and
is about 3 inches high. It has no built in screen, pointing device or
keyboard. Those are the primary differences. Internally it is built
as a stack with the CDROM on the bottom, hard disk in the middle and
mother board on top.

Kewl.

What brand is it?

Later,

Tom

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:34:28 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

So in your experience, you have not had vibration or shock problem
with the disc head on either the ROM or the memory disc?

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Not yet but I never use the CDROM underway, all charts are copied to
the hard disk. With the exception of the 24 ft I/O and the sailboats,
all have had a fairly smooth ride however (Bertram 33, Grand Banks
49). On the other hand I also use a laptop in my truck when on trips,
and have never had a problem with that either. In the truck the
laptop is frequently placed on edge when no one is actually looking at
it.

My old P2 laptop once survived a 3 foot drop onto fiberglass decking
but I don't recommend it.

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:34:57 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Kewl.

What brand is it?

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I'm not sure the company is still making it but I believe they were
called Wintergreen Systems or something like that. It's very similar
to the Shuttle which Harry mentioned, only not as high.

http://tinyurl.com/3uhxz

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:19:44 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:34:57 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Kewl.

What brand is it?

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I'm not sure the company is still making it but I believe they were
called Wintergreen Systems or something like that. It's very similar
to the Shuttle which Harry mentioned, only not as high.

http://tinyurl.com/3uhxz

Thanks for the link.

Certainly cheap enough to try out.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I haven't used charts in years, since the Lake Ontario chart basically
says
"deep", "deeper" or "holy **** it's really deep". Doesn't anyone use
paper
charts any more?

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Do those charts also have a "Here there be monsters" warning? :)

Seriously! I'm very safety conscious, so last week, I stopped into Boat US
to see if there was anything at all on the local Lake Ontario chart that
would make it worth having in the boat, considering that I only venture
about 10 miles either side of the Irondequoit Bay inlet. Nothing. Absolutely
nothing. Fortunately, it makes no mention of the Secret Smallmouth Location,
nor does it give any indication of bottom structure which makes it
interesting to the fish.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:Zk1Zc.4397
I haven't used charts in years, since the Lake Ontario chart basically
says
"deep", "deeper" or "holy **** it's really deep". Doesn't anyone use
paper
charts any more?

We do! Last I heard they were the only legal kind for the Canadian East
Coast .



Frankly, I like them. I have a nice framed one of the Block Island RI area.
People think I'm nuts to have it, but it makes me smile because not far from
Block Island, my dad ventured into a submarine testing area. The chart said
to avoid ships flying whatever flags - those were target ships. I was 10 or
11 and I didn't want to be TOO pushy with the captain, but I'd just takent
the Power Squadron class and as far as I could tell, we were right in the
center of the testing area. He didn't think so. A sub surfaced about 300
yards away and informed my dad via radio that he should try looking at his
chart, if any. Just like that. I loved the sarcasm, but as an ex-Navy man,
he didn't find it funny. :-)

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:05:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I haven't used charts in years, since the Lake Ontario chart basically
says
"deep", "deeper" or "holy **** it's really deep". Doesn't anyone use
paper
charts any more?

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You've got to stop navigating with those placemats from the
restaurant.


Hey....I got 'em 30 years ago. They're not current any more?

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:08:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:05:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

I haven't used charts in years, since the Lake Ontario chart basically
says
"deep", "deeper" or "holy **** it's really deep". Doesn't anyone use
paper
charts any more?

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You've got to stop navigating with those placemats from the
restaurant.

Hey....I got 'em 30 years ago. They're not current any more?

Of course they are.

Just remember that the gravy stain is not an island and you'll be
fine.

Later,

Tom