Paddlec1 wrote:

It's been one system after another coming through here, rain down in the
valleys, and snow up high. Predicted high here tomarrow is 53 derees, best to
be prepared for anything. You will need a decent tent, and outer clothing that
will keep the inner layers dry. Guess you likely already know that. And as Bill
mentioned, be carefull about the wind, wind related fatalities are not uncommon
up there. Just a couple years ago a ranger lost his life after capsizing,
before that it was Boy Scouts.
I don't mean to negative at all, you'll just have more fun if you know what
you're getting into.

I am north of the park, about fifty miles. The Gallatin flows north out of the
park, and I'm very near it at Bozeman.

Dennis


Whoa! Snow. Well, thanks for the info. And on that topic, I started reading
Nelson's
book last night. He mentioned the water temp in that area is usually in the
50s even
in mid-summer. That's something to be concerned about. I have a wet suit, so
will
definitely bring it. You are north of YS a bit?

Paddlec1 wrote:


Weather here can be very nice this time of year, but right now it is

snowing.

It's been snowing in the high country for three days now, so you might want

to

consider (or maybe you already have) taking cold weather gear.

Dennis



Thanks. I'll put some more clothes in the car. When I was in the Sawtooths at this
time last year, it was snowing at 9,000 feet. My first trip to YS was decades ago
around Labor Day with a friend. One morning we were greeted to a bucket of frozen
water. Coldddd.

One of the chapters in Nelson's book had a sobering view of paddle trips in the area.
As you mentioned, a number of people have died in the lakes. I'm going to play this
as cautiously as I can. I'll hug the shore as much as possible. I mentioned in one
response that I have an excellent video on just about every aspect of kayaking
cautions and rescue as one can hope for. One that surprised me was getting sea sick.
It's a lot more dangerous than I would have guessed. The person can really be
incapacitated. All rescues centered around having additional help. That notion will
make me probably hug the shore even more. I've never been sea sick, and I've been on
water plenty of times, but it's something to be aware of.

My son is sending me his surfing wetsuit. He surfs regularly in the Pacific off the
coast of San Francisco. I asked him how cold it gets there in the water. He said 50s.
I then asked how thick the suit was, 4mm! I thought 3mm would be sufficient for most
cold water.

I had a friend in Bozeman who recently moved to Oregon (Don Nisewanger, in case you
recognize it). I backpacked with him for a few days in YS last year. He and some of
his friends are planning to backpack there later in Sept. I had planned on joining
them, but I decided they were going too late for my plans, so switched to kayaking
and other activities (YS Institute classes). It sounds like they may find bad weather
a lot sooner than they anticipated.

Well, tomorrow I begin packing the car. I just had its 30K checkup made today.

Info on where to find the video tape is on another post with the current subject.

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