There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't get 4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or 30 foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

Depends on the swells hitting land. Mavericks break is a reef break and is
45' deep on a calm day. We have seen 60' waves during the Quicksilver surf
contests. And we get 4-5' surf in less than 9' water all the time. Yolu
need to come to the not so Pacific Ocean West Coast and watch surfing, or
fish. We normally fish 5' or less swells, but fish mornings as we get 3-4'
wind chop on top of the swells after noon.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't get
4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or 30
foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all that
far.

Depends on the swells hitting land. Mavericks break is a reef break and is
45' deep on a calm day. We have seen 60' waves during the Quicksilver surf
contests. And we get 4-5' surf in less than 9' water all the time. Yolu
need to come to the not so Pacific Ocean West Coast and watch surfing, or
fish. We normally fish 5' or less swells, but fish mornings as we get 3-4'
wind chop on top of the swells after noon.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't get
4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or 30
foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

JAXAshby wrote:
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all that
far.


Exactly how far can waves travel, JaxAss? Be precise. List all
possibilities of waves, all influences on their height and type, and the
maximum distance you personally have measured their travel.

You ought to spend your time more wisely. Buy yourself a bathing suit
that fits...and a face mask. If you do, you might find one of the
righties here will date you.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.

Depends on the swells hitting land. Mavericks break is a reef break and
is
45' deep on a calm day. We have seen 60' waves during the Quicksilver
surf
contests. And we get 4-5' surf in less than 9' water all the time. Yolu
need to come to the not so Pacific Ocean West Coast and watch surfing, or
fish. We normally fish 5' or less swells, but fish mornings as we get
3-4'
wind chop on top of the swells after noon.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't
get
4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or
30
foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When
I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And
we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low
pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh
has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep
water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

Calif Bill wrote:

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.



I agree completely. Surf is a wave. Further, it is patently obvious that
a number of those who have ocmmented here haven't a frippin' clue as to
what happens or may happen in an ocean coastal area during a serious storm.

Last year, during the hurricane, Bay waters were pushed by tides, wide
and surge five city blocks up into the town of Chesapeake Beach. There
were four foot waves breaking over several parking lots and part of the
main street. Several of the houses blocks uphill from the Bay had high
water marks on them shingles four to five feet off the ground.

I suspect dockside boaters like Dennis and would stain their shorts if
they ever had to run one of our rougher Atlantic Ocean inlets. I've seen
lake boaters like him look at what was involved and turn the helm over
to someone who had some idea of what to do.

I don't know what JaxAss is trying to prove, other than being
argumentative. He's got a dippy little sailbote that doesn't look as if
it could safely cross Long Island Sound.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.



I agree completely. Surf is a wave. Further, it is patently obvious that
a number of those who have ocmmented here haven't a frippin' clue as to
what happens or may happen in an ocean coastal area during a serious
storm.

Last year, during the hurricane, ..

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole. We are talking about a storm
with 40 mph winds...a storm that was once a hurricane and a tropical storm.
You, on the other hand, are talking about storm surges and *frightening* 5
foot waves.

Get away from the computer once in a while to see what five footers
are...not scary at all.

Asshole.

hoary, you are delusional.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 8/15/2004 3:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Calif Bill wrote:

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.



I agree completely. Surf is a wave. Further, it is patently obvious that
a number of those who have ocmmented here haven't a frippin' clue as to
what happens or may happen in an ocean coastal area during a serious storm.

Last year, during the hurricane, Bay waters were pushed by tides, wide
and surge five city blocks up into the town of Chesapeake Beach. There
were four foot waves breaking over several parking lots and part of the
main street. Several of the houses blocks uphill from the Bay had high
water marks on them shingles four to five feet off the ground.

I suspect dockside boaters like Dennis and would stain their shorts if
they ever had to run one of our rougher Atlantic Ocean inlets. I've seen
lake boaters like him look at what was involved and turn the helm over
to someone who had some idea of what to do.

I don't know what JaxAss is trying to prove, other than being
argumentative. He's got a dippy little sailbote that doesn't look as if
it could safely cross Long Island Sound.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:02:46 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I don't know what JaxAss is trying to prove, other than being
argumentative.

He's trying to get someone to buy into a long, inane argument on the
mathematical properties of waves. A 5' wave will break in 6.5' of water,
making much of the Chesapeake incapable of supporting it, of course this
disregards many other factors.

" Wave heights in the Harbor (Baltimore) are minimal. The maximum wave
height that can be expected is 5 ft."

"Dependent on the wind speed and duration, winds from the north or south
have the greatest fetch in Chesapeake Bay. Pilots indicate that wave
heights in the upper Bay do not normally exceed 6 ft during severe
weather. However, the width of the lower Bay provides considerable fetch
for strong westerly or easterly winds that could be associated with
tropical cyclones. Easterly winds can produce the highest waves at the Bay
mouth that can result in wave heights of 10 ft or more."

From:

https://www.cnmoc.navy.mil/nmosw/tr8...text/sect4.htm