On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:50:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Isn't it nice that the corporate representative worked so hard to shift
the blame or guilt from overselling the flight from his company onto the
passengers in the terminal?

Even with this touching story, poor Harry can't even find something decent
to say about humanity. What a louse.


Trouble is, though, he's right.

When I buy a hunting or fishing license, I know the score. I might
get lucky, I might not. It is a risk I understand and accept.

When I buy a ticket, I have a reasonable expectation of *using* that
ticket to claim *my* seat, NOT as a receipt for a hunting license.
And definitely not becoming an unwilling participant in a lottery for
the seat I paid for.... with doe-eyed passengers looking on to see how
hard-hearted I am.... and by proxy, passing the blame for lack of
surrender on to anybody else with a greater conscience.

Harry is clearly correct, the unpatriotic and un-American persons
involved were the sellers of tickets that they *knew* were not good
and would not be honored. Suppose they told these service men and
women up front?

In another thread we discussed the morality of paying for goods and
services received. Do you think a no-show will receive a refund?
Even if that flight was overbooked and people were turned away. This
is a crappy way to do business.

My point (and I hope Harry's) is that these people did the right thing
and performed a greater good for these service men and women to show
their appreciation for their sacrifices to our country and *right the
wrong* done to them by a transportation system driven by corporate
greed and paid to stay in business by the Federal Government.

My $.02.

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:50:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Isn't it nice that the corporate representative worked so hard to shift
the blame or guilt from overselling the flight from his company onto the
passengers in the terminal?

Even with this touching story, poor Harry can't even find something decent
to say about humanity. What a louse.


Trouble is, though, he's right.

When I buy a hunting or fishing license, I know the score. I might
get lucky, I might not. It is a risk I understand and accept.

When I buy a ticket, I have a reasonable expectation of *using* that
ticket to claim *my* seat, NOT as a receipt for a hunting license.
And definitely not becoming an unwilling participant in a lottery for
the seat I paid for.... with doe-eyed passengers looking on to see how
hard-hearted I am.... and by proxy, passing the blame for lack of
surrender on to anybody else with a greater conscience.

Harry is clearly correct, the unpatriotic and un-American persons
involved were the sellers of tickets that they *knew* were not good
and would not be honored. Suppose they told these service men and
women up front?

In another thread we discussed the morality of paying for goods and
services received. Do you think a no-show will receive a refund?
Even if that flight was overbooked and people were turned away. This
is a crappy way to do business.

My point (and I hope Harry's) is that these people did the right thing
and performed a greater good for these service men and women to show
their appreciation for their sacrifices to our country and *right the
wrong* done to them by a transportation system driven by corporate
greed and paid to stay in business by the Federal Government.

My $.02.


Indeed, the passengers who agreed to be "bumped" to allow the service
personnel to board were gracious and generous. The corporation behaved
like - your typical corporation.

Further, it really annoys me that the service personnel have to pay for
their own tickets to get home on leave from a war zone. It's one thing
to pay for your ticket home from a billet in Germany; it's quite another
to have to pay to get home for two weeks from a frippin' war.

Why isn't Bush stepping up to the plate to do something for these warriors?

Why? Because he's a detached pile of crap.

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message

Very well put Gene.

The airlines oversell, figuring on no shows. One of the only business
entities that sell a product that is not stock piled. The no shows except
for the very restricted tickets get to use that ticket for another flight
with no, or vetty little, penalty.
Bill

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:50:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
-
Isn't it nice that the corporate representative worked so hard to shift
the blame or guilt from overselling the flight from his company onto
the
passengers in the terminal?

Even with this touching story, poor Harry can't even find something
decent
to say about humanity. What a louse.


Trouble is, though, he's right.

When I buy a hunting or fishing license, I know the score. I might
get lucky, I might not. It is a risk I understand and accept.

When I buy a ticket, I have a reasonable expectation of *using* that
ticket to claim *my* seat, NOT as a receipt for a hunting license.
And definitely not becoming an unwilling participant in a lottery for
the seat I paid for.... with doe-eyed passengers looking on to see how
hard-hearted I am.... and by proxy, passing the blame for lack of
surrender on to anybody else with a greater conscience.

Harry is clearly correct, the unpatriotic and un-American persons
involved were the sellers of tickets that they *knew* were not good
and would not be honored. Suppose they told these service men and
women up front?

In another thread we discussed the morality of paying for goods and
services received. Do you think a no-show will receive a refund?
Even if that flight was overbooked and people were turned away. This
is a crappy way to do business.

My point (and I hope Harry's) is that these people did the right thing
and performed a greater good for these service men and women to show
their appreciation for their sacrifices to our country and *right the
wrong* done to them by a transportation system driven by corporate
greed and paid to stay in business by the Federal Government.

My $.02.

Calif Bill wrote:
The airlines oversell, figuring on no shows. One of the only business
entities that sell a product that is not stock piled. The no shows except
for the very restricted tickets get to use that ticket for another flight
with no, or vetty little, penalty.
Bill


Yeah, we all know how it works, Bill. Interesting that the airlines are
not subject to legal penalties for selling a product they don't have abd
can't claim is out of stock. But, then, the rules are different for
corporations.



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
The airlines oversell, figuring on no shows. One of the only business
entities that sell a product that is not stock piled. The no shows
except
for the very restricted tickets get to use that ticket for another
flight
with no, or vetty little, penalty.
Bill


Yeah, we all know how it works, Bill. Interesting that the airlines are
not subject to legal penalties for selling a product they don't have abd
can't claim is out of stock. But, then, the rules are different for
corporations.


They do get penalized. They pay bump fees to the bumpies. Who you go for
the case where you buy a ticket and that ticket is good on only the flight
it is sold for? You go on a business trip and have to change the itinerary.
You willing to write off 50% of the ticket? Seems as if the Unions are even
more crooked than the corporations. What union investment fund had insider
trading? Even the spokes person got enough money to buy a $300k+ Lobsta
boat. What about all those AFL /CIO pension fund scandals?

Calif Bill wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
The airlines oversell, figuring on no shows. One of the only business
entities that sell a product that is not stock piled. The no shows
except
for the very restricted tickets get to use that ticket for another
flight
with no, or vetty little, penalty.
Bill


Yeah, we all know how it works, Bill. Interesting that the airlines are
not subject to legal penalties for selling a product they don't have abd
can't claim is out of stock. But, then, the rules are different for
corporations.


They do get penalized. They pay bump fees to the bumpies.

Well, that's a wonderful way to do business, eh?


Who you go for
the case where you buy a ticket and that ticket is good on only the flight
it is sold for?

Huh? Try that again in English, please.



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Who you go for
the case where you buy a ticket and that ticket is good on only the
flight
it is sold for?

Huh? Try that again in English, please.

I guess you really are very anal. make the "Who" "Would"
Buy a ticket and you use it or lose it.


Would