On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 20:24:04 -0000 (UTC), Justan " wrote:

On 1/1/21 1:26 PM, John wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 1:31 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 01:40:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:44:38 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:02:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:26:54 -0800 (PST), marika
wrote:

I want my own dock, other factors are less important

I have to live somewhere
why not shoot for the moon, but i will settle

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Basically you need to be on a canal in order to have a dock with
adequate storm protection. There are lots of possibilities in south
west Florida: Punta Gorda Isles, Cape Coral and Ft Myers spring
immediately to mind.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Punta-Gorda-Isles_Punta-Gorda_FL

https://www.zillow.com/cape-coral-fl/waterfront/

https://www.zillow.com/fort-myers-fl/waterfront/


Pretty reasonable property.

===

Very reasonable by California standards, and also compared to the
northeast.


My 1973 2450? house is about $1.3 million now. A local 5000? 1900 built
house on 2nd street just sold for $3.3 million. But is the one in the
early Rebecca of Sunny brook Farm movie.

That is another incentive to move away. You could buy a castle down
here for 3 million.


I don?t do well in high humidity.

How do you feel about snow ?


Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000? and we are at 420? elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11? blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504?. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

I spent several years on my Grandfather's farm in Minnesota. Had to climb over
the porch roof with a shovel to get us out of the house a couple times. Lotsa
snow in Minnesota!
--

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Trivia tidbit. Most of the outdoor scenes in the movie Fargo were filmed in
Minnesota.

I spent a winter in Minot surveying for the Minuteman missile sites. Snow didn't
spend much time piling up there 'cause the winds would blow it away. The only
nice thing about Minot were the girls. Most of the boys left town as soon as
they could!
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.

On 1/1/21 6:05 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000’ and we are at 420’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11� blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.



Do the him insurance companies contract with individuals to sweep the
snow off roofs so they don't collapse? I didn't see that in Albany when
I lived there, but I did see it being done in Thunder Bay, Ontario.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thund...oofs-1.5045569

The day we landed there it was 15-20 degrees below zero, Fahrenheit. I
was told if you peed off the top of the boarding ladder, the pee would
freeze by the time it hit the ground but sadly I didn't get a chance to
test that.



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Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull, Witless,
Insult-Tossing Trumpsters.

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000Â’ and we are at 420Â’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504Â’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.


Actually we get much more than that in parts of the Sierras some years.
One year, my buddy who lived on the West Shore, said they had to use the
rotary blowers as the snow was to deep along the roads to use graders. I
think that year they recorded 110’ at Donner Pass. I worked with a guy who
grew up in the 1930-40’s on the Tahoe west Shore. His dad was a park
ranger. He said one year they lost phone and his dad started from their
place and another guy started from Tahoe City and they had to dig down to
the phone lines as the snow was deeper than the power poles looking for the
break. I think God did not like the Donner Party. Was historically one of
the heaviest snowfalls in history. They were snowed in on October 30. We
hope to usually have enough snow to ski by Thanksgiving.

On 1/1/21 9:01 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000Â’ and we are at 420Â’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504Â’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.


Actually we get much more than that in parts of the Sierras some years.
One year, my buddy who lived on the West Shore, said they had to use the
rotary blowers as the snow was to deep along the roads to use graders. I
think that year they recorded 110’ at Donner Pass. I worked with a guy who
grew up in the 1930-40’s on the Tahoe west Shore. His dad was a park
ranger. He said one year they lost phone and his dad started from their
place and another guy started from Tahoe City and they had to dig down to
the phone lines as the snow was deeper than the power poles looking for the
break. I think God did not like the Donner Party. Was historically one of
the heaviest snowfalls in history. They were snowed in on October 30. We
hope to usually have enough snow to ski by Thanksgiving.


On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.

===

One of my all time favorite roads.

On 1/2/21 9:21 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.

===

One of my all time favorite roads.
Mine too.
And there's a treasure at both ends.

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 16:31:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On 1/2/21 9:21 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.

===

One of my all time favorite roads.
Mine too.
And there's a treasure at both ends.

===

Did you do it in the RV?

Justan " wrote:
On 1/1/21 9:01 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 18:08:10 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Nice to drive to for an afternoon. Maybe a weekend. We see snow here.
Fact is we looked at snow this morning, on top of Mr. Diablo. Which is
about 4000Â’ and we are at 420Â’ elevation.

Snow on city streets results in videos to be taken that rival a Three
Stooges movie.



I have lived in snow. Spent a year in Dayton, OH for schooling. Arrived
through an 11” blizzard in January and left the day after the first
snowfall of the next winter. Highest point in Ohio is only 1504Â’. Does
not make for great downhill skiing. I also lived in Denver for 3 months of
winter.

===

You haven't really experienced winter snow until you've spent time in
the lake-effect winter snow belts south of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie.
Lake Ontario is the worst of the two because it doesn't freeze all the
way across like Erie does. Once Erie freezes over the winds no longer
pick up moisture as they blow south from Canada.

My old home town is 10 miles south of central Lake Ontario and gets
200 to 300 inches of snow a year, including at least a couple of major
blizzards. The snow banks along the road sometimes get so high that
they bring in arctic snow blowers to cut them back. People put flags
on their car radio antennas so they can be seen over the snow banks as
they approach intersections. The county puts tall wooden stakes on
guard rails so the plows don't accidently hit them.


Actually we get much more than that in parts of the Sierras some years.
One year, my buddy who lived on the West Shore, said they had to use the
rotary blowers as the snow was to deep along the roads to use graders. I
think that year they recorded 110’ at Donner Pass. I worked with a guy who
grew up in the 1930-40’s on the Tahoe west Shore. His dad was a park
ranger. He said one year they lost phone and his dad started from their
place and another guy started from Tahoe City and they had to dig down to
the phone lines as the snow was deeper than the power poles looking for the
break. I think God did not like the Donner Party. Was historically one of
the heaviest snowfalls in history. They were snowed in on October 30. We
hope to usually have enough snow to ski by Thanksgiving.


On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.



Years ago, I had a sabbatical and took 6 weeks to tour the country. Snowed
on us end of June on the continental divide on our way to Yellowstone.

On 1/2/21 11:52 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 16:31:18 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On 1/2/21 9:21 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 14:17:34 -0000 (UTC), Justan "
wrote:

On the Bear Tooth Hwy they have a plow "standing by" year round at one of
the peaks.

===

One of my all time favorite roads.
Mine too.
And there's a treasure at both ends.

===

Did you do it in the RV?

Hell no.